Topic: CREATION VERSUS EVOLUTION.....PULL UP A CHAIR !!!!
Inkracer's photo
Mon 02/09/09 04:06 PM

You need to think more HIGHLY of yourself that that.

I'm not really sure what you mean there, since all I really stated is that I don't see a point in trying to have a rational conversation with an irrational person.

YOU are the APPLE of God's EYE.

God KNOWS The HAIRS on your HEAD.

He KNOWS the PLANS he has for JUST YOU.


Sorry, your invisible friend doesn't do a thing for me.

He will NOT allow his creation called Man to go suddenly awry...and also produce chimps.


Not really sure what you are trying to say there. . .

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Mon 02/09/09 04:13 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/09/09 04:25 PM

yawn I have this feeling that this thread is not going to be a free exchange of ideas. :tongue:


((((flowerforyou:heart:Krimsa:heart:flowerforyou)))))

God gave you one UNIQUE set of fingerprints , Krimsa.

No one else has your own set of fingerprints.

No one!!!!

God Loves You and Fearfully and Wonderfully Created Only ONE You, Krimsa....

there is no one else in the whole wide world..made just like You.drinker

There is Only One Unique Krimsa..flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



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Mon 02/09/09 04:25 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Mon 02/09/09 04:27 PM
He will NOT allow his creation called Man to go suddenly awry...and also produce chimps.


huh laugh That is by far the oddest statement ever uttered on this forum. Someone has been partaking of the holly wine I think. blushing

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Mon 02/09/09 05:21 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/09/09 05:32 PM
Then GOD SAID,

"Let Us MAKE MAN in OUR IMAGE,

in Our LIKENESS....."


meaning...God said He SPECIFICALLY CREATED MAN....

and GOD BREATHED LIFE into MAN..ONLY MAN did God do this for..

not for chimps..or any other of His creation!!!!

Meaning...God did NOT say He created man AND chimps from some COMMON ancestory.....

meaning...

God ONLY CREATED MAN in his LIKENESS....and In HIS IMAGE...

Meaning... a CHIMP has NO likeness to God..or even to mankind...

cause a chimp can't reason ,think, make decisions..ete etc etc...but man CAN....


I mean...even people who don't even believe in God's Word,

can still see that something is amiss ...

with this "chimp and man coming from a common ancestry" nonsense!!

Think people think!!think





Krimsa's photo
Mon 02/09/09 05:32 PM
Well what if god looks like a chimp? Maybe he used chimp to start with and decided to move onto something else. Or maybe he made the chimp but it continued to evolve. Thats no less crazy than the genesis story.

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Mon 02/09/09 05:35 PM
Do you think that POORLY of God?


Krimsa's photo
Mon 02/09/09 05:37 PM

Do you think that POORLY of God?




That he would look like a chimp? Why do you think that poorly of chimps? Is that why you are so afraid of the theory of evolution? huh

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Mon 02/09/09 05:41 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/09/09 05:44 PM
Who do you THINK is the one

who blinds the eyes of mankind ??

To where mankind will believe in anything and everything ELSE...

BUT the Word of God?think

Until his eyes are Finally OPENED?


You can ask God to open your eyes.

So you can finally SEE for yourself ,the TRUTH.

STOP wasting your time...

You are TOOOOO PRECIOUS for that...

GO to GOD...not man... and JUST ASK!!:heart::heart::heart:


Inkracer's photo
Mon 02/09/09 05:59 PM
MorningSong, with post after post, you just prove what I posted earlier. . .

I could go on and on, like many others have, about the actual proof out there for Evolution, put you're not gonna read it, and just deny it anyway, so I don't see a point.

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Mon 02/09/09 06:07 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Mon 02/09/09 06:08 PM
It really doesn’t hurt anything and each individual person can believe what they want of course. The issue and the problem really comes into play when evangelicals decide that they want to take the Theory of Evolution out of the public school system and science curriculum funded by state tax dollars. That’s where they are subjecting innocent children in school to their beliefs which have no scientific basis in reality. The theory of evolution is taught as theory.

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Mon 02/09/09 06:18 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/09/09 06:44 PM

MorningSong, with post after post, you just prove what I posted earlier. . .

I could go on and on, like many others have, about the actual proof out there for Evolution, put you're not gonna read it, and just deny it anyway, so I don't see a point.



IF there was PROOF of Evolution,

the NEWS would be COMPLETELY FLOODED with the NEWS of this INCREDIBLE DISCOVERY!!!!!!!

BUT in ACTUALITY, there is NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO BACK THESE CLAIMS !!

And NEVER HAS BEEN!

And there NEVER WILL BE EVIDENCE...cause NONE EXISTS!!!

WHY???

Simply This:

GOD'S ...WORD... DOES... NOT ...LIE !!!:heart::heart::heart:

ps....referring to evolution into a WHOLE OTHER SPECIES here....

not referring to evolution WITHIN a species here

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Mon 02/09/09 06:25 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 02/09/09 06:42 PM
Key Word in Scripture:

EVERYTHING REPRODUCES

AFTER ...ITS... OWN.. KIND.



:heart::heart::heart:

Giovinetta's photo
Mon 02/09/09 06:52 PM


MorningSong, with post after post, you just prove what I posted earlier. . .

I could go on and on, like many others have, about the actual proof out there for Evolution, put you're not gonna read it, and just deny it anyway, so I don't see a point.



IF there was PROOF of Evolution,

the NEWS would be COMPLETELY FLOODED with the NEWS of this INCREDIBLE DISCOVERY!!!!!!!

BUT in ACTUALITY, there is NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO BACK THESE CLAIMS !!

And NEVER HAS BEEN!

And there NEVER WILL BE EVIDENCE...cause NONE EXISTS!!!

WHY???

Simply This:

GOD'S ...WORD... DOES... NOT ...LIE !!!:heart::heart::heart:

ps....referring to evolution into a WHOLE OTHER SPECIES here....

not referring to evolution WITHIN a species here


Yes, there is plenty of evidence. There has been quite some time. Just do a Google search. Or, hell, just pay attention to what people here are telling you for once.

I don't know what news your reading but mine does mention whenever new evidence supporting evolution is found. It's regarded as fact in most industrialized nations. America is just overly slow to get on the bandwagon.

On another note, why is micro evolution plausible to you but not macro?

And why are you picking and choosing which posts to address? Did you even look at Krimsa's post about Lucy?

I'm really interested in what you have to say about that.

Krimsa's photo
Mon 02/09/09 07:01 PM
Oh she will just say it’s a model. That’s true but it is an artist’s rendition of what they suspect Lucy would have looked like. They use those forensic artists. The same that work for investigative offices when they find the skeletal remains of a body and they have to create an identity. They use those people. Its probably well within an acceptably accurate range. Very often family members are able to recognize those models as their lost loved ones so I would buy that is what australopithecines would have closely resembled about 3 million years back. It’s about halfway in between and clearly becoming more human looking.

Seamonster's photo
Mon 02/09/09 07:03 PM
I was going to comment but I pourd another glass of scotch instead.

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Mon 02/09/09 07:09 PM
Edited by voileazur on Mon 02/09/09 07:11 PM


MorningSong, with post after post, you just prove what I posted earlier. . .

I could go on and on, like many others have, about the actual proof out there for Evolution, put you're not gonna read it, and just deny it anyway, so I don't see a point.



IF there was PROOF of Evolution,

the NEWS would be COMPLETELY FLOODED with the NEWS of this INCREDIBLE DISCOVERY!!!!!!!

BUT in ACTUALITY, there is NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO BACK THESE CLAIMS !!

And NEVER HAS BEEN!

And there NEVER WILL BE EVIDENCE...cause NONE EXISTS!!!

WHY???

Simply This:

GOD'S ...WORD... DOES... NOT ...LIE !!!:heart::heart::heart:

ps....referring to evolution into a WHOLE OTHER SPECIES here....

not referring to evolution WITHIN a species here




Morningsong,

You are a good and sweet person. I mean that sincerely.

But you are proselytizing as though the thing was going out of style.

You are no longer expressing your opinion, or inviting other posters to share views on this all so run topic. It would still be your privilege to invite posters to share views, YET AGAIN ON THIS WORN OUT TOPIC.

But that is not what you are doing here.

You are proselytizing. Besides not being cool at all, IT'S STRICTLY AGAINST THE RULES OF THIS FORUM.

Have 'trust' in your 'faith' for yourself Morningsong, and allow the fact that while you personnally believe in a god created human, there are different factual realities out there that have no association whatsoever with the domain of beliefs, and no link with with YOUR PERSONNAL faith.

Believe as you wish 'morningsong', and let go, let god with the rest!!!

Proselytizing, besides being strictly against forum rules, simply infuriates the very people you are intending to 'turn around'.

Respectfully.



Abracadabra's photo
Mon 02/09/09 07:21 PM
Let's see,...

I can believe that God is omniscient and has genuine unconditional love to offer to everyone just as pantheism suggests.

Or I can believe that God is a male chauvinist pig who thinks it's cool to nail his only begotten son to a pole just to freak people out.

I think I'll stick with panthiesm. If the male chauvinistic freak is our creator then a true miracle has occured since we have evolved above that our creator in both compassion and sanity. :wink:

I'll never understand why people are so anxious to denounce the observations make of the real universe in favor of a blood thirsty mythical God who's anxious to cast the vast majority of his creation into a hell fire.

It would seem to me that any genuinely sane person would jump at the chance to recognize that such a myth is indeed false.

Why would anyone want to believe that our creator goes around having his children nailed to poles just to appease his egotistial jealousy?

That's not only absurd but it's truly sick. sick

Yep, you can't beat pantheism for the most sane and loving picture of a creator.

I just can't understand why people are so anxious to support a picture of a hateful God who casts the overwhelming majority of his creation into a hell fire.

And there can be no doubt about it that this is precisely what the myth claims. During the Great Flood the biblical God flushed the bulk of humanity over to Satan.

Then later in the New Testament it is claimed that the path is straight and the gate is narrow and few will make it into the kingdom of heaven.

So clearly the bulk of God's created souls go to hell.

It's a loser God according to the mythology.

There's just no two ways about it.

Pantheism, on the other hand, is a picture of God where NO ONE IS LOST.

NO ONE MorningSong.

Nary a One!

It's truly a divine picture of a God who had genuine unconditional love to offer to EVERYONE.

Sorry that you've chosen such a loser picture for God. I hope She isn't insulted when you show Her what you thought She was like.

Although, I'm sure She'll just laugh and greet you with open arms and say, "Don't worry MorningSong, I'm nowhere near that mean".

bigsmile

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Mon 02/09/09 07:23 PM
i look at creationism the same way i look at all the other magical myths.

its silly really.

creationism and other similar ideas did a great job of giving men peace of mind when they lacked the means to answer it.

now as we fine tune our science - we don't need "placeholder answers" like these anymore...

holding on to them is just silly.

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Abracadabra's photo
Mon 02/09/09 07:25 PM

Have 'trust' in your 'faith' for yourself Morningsong.


I wish Christians would have a little faith in God.

Unfortuanetly they don't trust God at all.

They think it's up to them to 'save' people and that God would let those souls go to hell because GOD DOESN'T CARE.

That's what Christians obviously believe.

They have absolutely no faith in God whatsoever.


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Tue 02/10/09 03:40 AM

I was going to comment but I pourd another glass of scotch instead.


drinker "Trying to speak logically or rationally with Fundamentalists is like attempting to herd cats."

KerryO