Topic: stimulate checks
Queene123's photo
Tue 02/24/09 11:22 PM
Social Security's Economic Stimulus One-Time Payments Information Page

President Obama recently signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. This act provides for the one-time payment of $250 to individuals who get Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or Social Security benefits.
We expect everyone who is entitled to a payment to receive it by late May 2009. No action is required on your part.

We are currently working on the details regarding how we will issue nearly 55 million one-time payments to our beneficiaries.

When more information becomes available, we will promptly post it here.



nogames39's photo
Tue 02/24/09 11:45 PM
Somehow the stimulus misses me all the time. I guess the point is I should stop working and apply for an unemployment benefits. Is this Obama's grand plan?

I don't get it, I pay to social security, but do not receive!

Fanta46's photo
Wed 02/25/09 12:05 AM

Social Security's Economic Stimulus One-Time Payments Information Page

President Obama recently signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. This act provides for the one-time payment of $250 to individuals who get Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or Social Security benefits.
We expect everyone who is entitled to a payment to receive it by late May 2009. No action is required on your part.

We are currently working on the details regarding how we will issue nearly 55 million one-time payments to our beneficiaries.

When more information becomes available, we will promptly post it here.





I never mind helping others when they are down. SSI is usually meant for the disabled.
Good for them..drinker drinker


Nick2187's photo
Wed 02/25/09 03:30 AM
I think its a waste of money and time. Instead of trying to find ways to raise the national deficit, they should look at ways to get rid of it, like an internal audit ($10,845,082,938,639.38 at 6AM ET) like cut some senators, do we need all of them? Then the bail out should go to the home owners. find o ut how much the loan was, then how much it is worth now, take the difference and thats your bail out. 1. make the house worth the original purchase price or 2. pay the bank the money to get it down to what its worth. That way its a win win for the home owners and the banks. The stimulas check put gas in my car for 4 weeks and that was it. I know others it did less.


yellowrose10's photo
Wed 02/25/09 05:32 AM
hmmmmmmmmm

Winx's photo
Wed 02/25/09 06:57 AM

Somehow the stimulus misses me all the time. I guess the point is I should stop working and apply for an unemployment benefits. Is this Obama's grand plan?

I don't get it, I pay to social security, but do not receive!


When you get old you will. Why rush it?

nogames39's photo
Wed 02/25/09 11:19 AM

I think its a waste of money and time. Instead of trying to find ways to raise the national deficit, they should look at ways to get rid of it, like an internal audit ($10,845,082,938,639.38 at 6AM ET) like cut some senators, do we need all of them? Then the bail out should go to the home owners. find o ut how much the loan was, then how much it is worth now, take the difference and thats your bail out. 1. make the house worth the original purchase price or 2. pay the bank the money to get it down to what its worth. That way its a win win for the home owners and the banks. The stimulas check put gas in my car for 4 weeks and that was it. I know others it did less.




Why?

Why should we bail out the speculators who rushed in a deal without - any understanding of economic conditions? This has been widely known 6 years ago, yet, home owners did not listen.

I do not give a cr*ap about these speculators. When they win, they think that they are some sort of financial geniuses.

- "Look at me, I trippled my money in a year!"
- But, you know, you're speculating as opposed to investing, right? "I don't have time for this cr*ap. If you so smart how come you're not making any money on this?"

You see? Not everybody deserves to live in a nice house and to drive a nice car. If you're as stupid as these "home owners" who bought not to live in, but to make money, you deserve not a house nor a car.

Now, those who say they simply needed to live in a house, they have no problem. They still have that same house, although with a lot less promise to make them rich, but like they said, this was not their plan anyway.

It is only the ones who rushed in like fools, thinking that they are going to miss out on something, these ones now need a bailout. If you're so dumb and stupid that you do not see what will happen to your money, if you're as stupid as a wine cork, then may-be you shouldn't even manage your money yourself? Give it all to government, for christ sakes, it would be better. You want to do it yourself, like a big boy? Then make sure you can walk the walk, not just talk it.

But, now, oh, we need to bail them out.

Nope. I do not have any need, I assure you, to bail them out. Stupid is as stupid does. Do not like to lose? Don't bet on it! It is that simple.

Winx's photo
Wed 02/25/09 11:21 AM
Many people are in foreclosure due to job loss. Also, some banks weren't being honest.

nogames39's photo
Wed 02/25/09 11:32 AM

Many people are in foreclosure due to job loss. Also, some banks weren't being honest.


If you have lost you job, it is your problem. May-be you shouldn't have played with big boy purchases, if you weren't ready to play yet?

If a bank wasn't honest, then this contract is repudiated pursuant to fraud. There is no need to bailout this home owner.



There were a lot of geniuses who did not read their final contract before signing it. This sort of stupidity should be punished the most. Now they must be doing what they signed. As*sholes. Next time, they will be a bit more careful.

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Wed 02/25/09 12:32 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Wed 02/25/09 12:33 PM
I can't believe the foolishness of this poster. If that many people lose their jobs,what is it in the millions?, then it affects all of us in some way. Hello......Every business, facility, restaurant, hospital, so forth and so forth is subjected to those losses.

If you are so smart....why don't you know this? The reason stable businesses are closing down daily is because of job losses elsewhere. It trickles down from one job to another.

Kat

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Wed 02/25/09 12:51 PM
They need to look up and research the case of First National Bank of Montgomery vs. Jerome Daly. here is some links

http://boards.celebrityloop.com/showthread.php?t=44446

here is an excerpt from another site. the bankers didn't like this case and they ended up disbarring him and poisoning the judge that made the decision.




A WORD FROM AN ASSOCIATE JUSTICE
WHO KNEW AND WORKED WITH
JUSTICE MARTIN V. MAHONEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
ABOUT THE CASE.

The "Credit River Decision" handed down by a jury of 12 on a cold day in December, in the Credit River Township Hall, was an experience that I'll never forget.

The Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court had phoned me a week before the trial and asked me if I would be an associate justice in assisting Justice Martin V. Mahoney since he had never handled a jury trial before. I accepted, and it took me two hours to get my car running in the 22 below zero weather.

I got to the courtroom about 30 minutes before trial, and helped get the wood stove going, since the trial was being held in an unheated storeroom of a general store. This was the first time I met Justice Mahoney, and I was impressed with his no nonsense manner of handling matters before him. My object was to help pick the jury, and to keep Jerome Daly and the attorney representing the Bank of Montgomery from engaging in a fist fight. The courtroom was highly charged, and the Jury was all business.

The banker testified about the mortgage loan given to Jerome Daly, but then Daly cross examined the banker about the creating of money "out of thin air," and the banker admitted that this was standard banking practice. When Justice Mahoney heard the banker testify that he could "create money out of thin air," Mahoney said, "It sounds like fraud to me." I looked at the faces of the jurors, and they were all agreeing with Mahoney by shaking their heads and by the looks on their faces.

I must admit that up until that point, I really didn't believe Jerome's theory, and thought he was making this up. After I heard the testimony of the banker, my mouth had dropped open in shock, and I was in complete disbelief. There was no doubt in my mind that the Jury would find for Daly.

Jerome Daly had taken on the banks, the Federal Reserve Banking System, and the money lenders, and had won.

It is now twenty eight years since this "Landmark Decision," and Justice Mahoney is quoted more often than any Supreme Court justice ever was. The money boys that run the "private Federal Reserve Bank" soon got back at Mahoney by poisoning him in what appeared to have been a fishing boat accident (but with his body pumped full of poison) in June of 1969, less than 6 months later.

Both Jerome Daly and Justice Martin V. Mahoney are truly the greatest men that I have ever had the pleasure to meet. The Credit River Decision was and still is the most important legal decision ever decided by a Jury. - Bill Drexler



I sincerely believe that if information about this case can be dissemineted nationwide, it could help the many Americans currently in foreclosure and living in tents as a result of losing their homes, to take on and beat "the Bankigarchy" just as Jerome Daly did. Maybe there is, somewhere in the USA,
a "caring lawyer," which is the same type of oxymoron as "honest politician," but you never know, there may be just one who would consider, maybe, a class action lawsuit against 1 Shylock outfit. The Daly case would, on the face of it, seem to provide a suitable precedent.

think2deep's photo
Wed 02/25/09 12:54 PM
here is judge Mahoney's notes on the Daly case.

http://usa-the-republic.com/banks/bank_1.html

Winx's photo
Wed 02/25/09 02:02 PM


Many people are in foreclosure due to job loss. Also, some banks weren't being honest.


If you have lost you job, it is your problem. May-be you shouldn't have played with big boy purchases, if you weren't ready to play yet?

If a bank wasn't honest, then this contract is repudiated pursuant to fraud. There is no need to bailout this home owner.

There were a lot of geniuses who did not read their final contract before signing it. This sort of stupidity should be punished the most. Now they must be doing what they signed. As*sholes. Next time, they will be a bit more careful.


If someone loses their job, it's not just their problem. It affects everybody.

On the other topic, some banks and some real estate agents bear some responsibility too.

think2deep's photo
Wed 02/25/09 02:27 PM
I beg to differ Winx, you must not have read the federal reserves own website where they gave quotas to the banks to loan at least a certain amount of "bad loans" the banks had no choice.

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Wed 02/25/09 07:26 PM



If someone loses their job, it's not just their problem. It affects everybody.

On the other topic, some banks and some real estate agents bear some responsibility too.



Can you be specific with regards of the responsibility of the agents and banks?

Winx's photo
Wed 02/25/09 07:28 PM




If someone loses their job, it's not just their problem. It affects everybody.

On the other topic, some banks and some real estate agents bear some responsibility too.



Can you be specific with regards of the responsibility of the agents and banks?


Not all of the agents and banks were on the up and up.

nogames39's photo
Wed 02/25/09 07:29 PM

I can't believe the foolishness of this poster. If that many people lose their jobs,what is it in the millions?, then it affects all of us in some way. Hello......Every business, facility, restaurant, hospital, so forth and so forth is subjected to those losses.

If you are so smart....why don't you know this? The reason stable businesses are closing down daily is because of job losses elsewhere. It trickles down from one job to another.

Kat


Rubbish.

The reason some firms have losses now is that they have mis-allocated their finite recourses. A classic case of a consequence of central planning and governmental intervention in economic affairs.

I doubt that you will understand what this means, but I hope you do.

think2deep's photo
Thu 02/26/09 01:51 PM
the reason stable businesses are closing down everywhere is because of speculation and because of this statement in the protocols.



IN ORDER TO PUT PUBLIC OPINION INTO OUR HANDS WE MUST BRING IT INTO A STATE OF BEWILDERMENT BY GIVING EXPRESSION FROM ALL SIDES TO SO MANY CONTRADICTORY OPINIONS AND FOR SUCH LENGTH OF TIME AS WILL SUFFICE TO MAKE THE “GOYIM” LOSE THEIR HEADS IN THE LABYRINTH AND COME TO SEE THAT THE BEST THING IS TO HAVE NO OPINION OF ANY KIND IN MATTERS POLITICAL, which it is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret.

11. The second secret requisite for the success of our government is comprised in the following: To multiply to such an extent national failings, habits, passions, conditions of civil life, that it will be impossible for anyone to know where he is in the resulting chaos, so that the people in consequence will fail to understand one another. This measure will also serve us in another way, namely, to sow discord in all parties, to dislocate all collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us, and to discourage any kind of personal initiative which might in any degree hinder our affair. THERE IS NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE: if it has genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord. We must so direct the education of the GOYIM communities that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative they may drop their hands in despairing impotence. The strain which results from freedom of actions saps the forces when it meets with the freedom of another. From this collision arise grave moral shocks, disenchantments, failures. BY ALL THESE MEANS WE SHALL SO WEAR DOWN THE “GOYIM” THAT THEY WILL BE COMPELLED TO OFFER US INTERNATIONAL POWER OF A NATURE THAT BY ITS POSITION WILL ENABLE US WITHOUT ANY VIOLENCE GRADUALLY TO ABSORB ALL THE STATE FORCES OF THE WORLD AND TO FORM A SUPER-GOVERNMENT. In place of the rulers of to-day we shall set up a bogey which will be called the Super-Government Administration. Its hands will reach out in all directions like nippers and its organization will be of such colossal dimensions that it cannot fail to subdue all the nations of the world.