Ok, so aliens come to earth and build structures that supposedly humans didn't have the technology to build. Why wouldn't they use something a little more modern than stone and simple metals? Perhaps if they had built the pyramids with a titanium alloy surface covering I might buy it.

Because the pyramids and whatever else is not built by aliens but humans.

Well Billy, you don't have to call them "aliens" if that makes you uncomfortable. Did you watch the documentary? Evidence of an advanced society that existed before our known human society is indisputable, and yet ignored and denied by the status quo, especially the church.

The fact that there was an advanced society living on this earth before our own is fascinating enough, even if they were all humans just like us. The question remains why this fact is ignored (and even covered up) and what caused this society to fall or disappear?

(Or maybe they have not completely disappeared, maybe they are just staying hidden, perhaps under ground.)

Aside from that, there are many tales and records of snake-people or lizard people from all cultures and while you don't consider that "proof" the evidence is still there and it points to something non-human.

I see evidence of an advanced society that had machines, electricity, batteries, flight, etc. but I don't see the same kind of technology that you would think aliens might possess. It was more a mechanical society rather than an electronic one. It's sources of power were water, wind, sun and more natural things.

Anyone knows about the fact that we still can't build pyramids?

Looks "ancient" but not even the most modern and biggest cranes could do it, and the engineers and scientists would be scratching their heads to actually how to start and design it. Half inch off and very small differences between the size of the blocks and you won't have a pyramid...and let's not get into how you could have even tunnels and chambers built into it with vent holes ..

Then you ask the question: Why stone? Why not some metal?

Well....which one seems to be last longer?

And what if there were other buildings but now gone do to corrosion or taken down or destroyed?

If we would have no pictures, no memory and nothing indicating that the World Trade Center towers existed.. now going to NYC to the site you couldn't tell.

Ancient astronauts, or time travelers?
I do agree someone maybe preparing the world for the news.
What some may refer too as angels, demons, and various
other names from other cultures.

Tomorrow, I'll share with you guys what I know about the existence of extra-terrestrial life!

No.no.no... Unfortunately, I'm not one of the lucky few who've been abducted and anally probed by aliens, and lived to tell about it. My story is true, documented by the IIAF (Imperial Iranian Air Force) and covered up shortly thereafter by the CIA.

My source? My father who was second in command of the Air Force base in which the incident took place in 1976.

But like I said, I'll share the details tomorrow... gotta get ready for work!

I always think it's funny when a person with a theory says their statements are ''unshakeable''. Comes off a little cult-ish, lol. Anyhow, ponder this; war has destroyed our world over and over. Look at Iran for instance. Where there was an impressive beautiful landscape; now there isn't much more than rubble and modern buildings. But that's because of new weaponry right? Uh huh..... look at Rome. How can you knock down a colluseum? Or those other buildings? They say war, but can a bunnch of guys with swords really do that much damage? They had cannons, catapults, explosives, etc.

Let's say hypothetically that there ''was'' a very advanced society somewhere and the christians thought the technology was ''blasphemy to God''; so they burned the houses with torches, put swords and arrows through pregnant womens bellies, put rocks through all the structures with catapults, took any remaining technology and either melted it down or burried it; then called it Sodom and Gommorah and said ''Oh that...... God did it''. Well; they wouldn't have left anything but rubble; much like Persia. Most of the awesome things in the pyramids were stolen by dispicable grave robbers, so now Egypt seems a little barren except for the big structures. This mysterious civilization that ''disappeared'' could have had incredible machines that could built a pyramid. But if an ignorant and violent religious sect was angry enough; they could have destroyed everything. Maybe there was a war that lasted a hundred years or so. We'll probably never know. If there is any proof of this civilization or the war that ended it; it's in a cave filled with corpses under the vatican. 'Cause that's how the catholic leaders roll, aight? lol.

Anyhow; that was just something logical to consider before you jump to the supposedly ''unshakable'' alien conclusion :P

The "unshakable" part is the advanced society's existence. I have also poured over tons of information, reports, etc. that all point to the existence of aliens, extraterrestrials, UFO's, abductions, cattle mutilations, crop circles, ancient writings, etc. For me, the conclusion is that more probable than not, we are not, and never have been... alone.

Here is a quote from George Orwell, very suiting:

- Every generation thinks they are smarter than the previous and wiser than the following

Great quote Atlantis75 :) I think that that kindof IS the case though; we progress, we learn, we grow. ''However''; there could have been a very intelligent culture a while ago that got destroyed. Think about this; if something bad happened to earth right now, not even a meteor or nuclear war, maybe just a technological breakdown; we would be set back soooo far. We would still have a lot down on paper; and a lot in our minds. But; during a war a lot of books, art, et cetera are burned out of spite. And if the war lasts a while; these experts knowledge in their minds will be lost when they die. We would be thrown back into, well not the stone age as people always say, but the pioneer cowboy age probably.

Who's to say that didn't happen before. This might be a little off topic, but it fits the convo: I think that Dragons and ''mythical'' things like that may have been murdered by swordman and cannons and whatnot the same way that so many of our species are going extinct now. Look at the dodo. Wolves are almost gone. Hunting and poaching and junk suck monkey butt, but when people want to wipe something out; they're good at doing so it seems. I doubt they killed dragons for their skin or anything; it was probably fear and prejudice. Look at all the fear and prejudice associated with wolves! Anyhow; it's just something to think about.

But of course the do! Anyone claiming otherwise would be a firm beleiver in the Theory of Evolution!

May be we'll get a chance to finally meet our fore-forefathers? ! !

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Speaking of Atlantis and The Great Flood (or a nuclear explosion) which could have had desroyed it, the people who's survived had to start everything from the scratch.. without any written documents and/or scientists - most of whom probably parished in the catastrophy...

* As for aliens, I wonder Why would an advaced civilization -- capable of the interstellar/intergallactic travel -- be interested in some primitive species millions of years ago?!!
Example: an enthomologist, studying the insects, having discovered a unique ant-hill, would study it and conduct some experiments.. but, after confirming the ants' inability to communicate, would return to the base and report the findings. Though, he's left the box of matches behind...
For centuries, all generations of the ants have crolled all over the box, experimented with it, etc. And finally have arrived to the conclusion that the mysterious origine of the box must be EXTRATERRESTRIAL! ! !

The same with the Humanity:
Certainly, our descendants would conquer the space and TIME -- capable of traveling in time... But leaving any traces of that in the Past, might result in changing the History...* * * Therefore, anything inexplicable (like the "box of matches") is attributed to the illusive aliens! (that theory is better siuted for the laymen)!!

Right this is exactly it, any revolutionary technology would have sufficed, yet they just did things that where better then what the people of the time did . .. oh wow that is so compelling . . . yea not.

lol.

Give me a single strange allow, a single micro chip, a single shred of conclusive credible evidence.

Evidence of what? Are you expecting to find evidence of electronic microchips from before the dawn of the current civilization of mankind that we are now a part of?

These advanced beings DID NOT HAVE that kind of technology.

They had a different kind of technology altogether. They were master builders and thinkers. They moved gigantic boulders and built gigantic structures. I have heard it said by mystics "Things were much lighter at one time." Well...I guess so.

But there is plenty of CREDIBLE EVIDENCE. And who do are these people who feel that they are the judge of what is "credible" or not?

They are people who try to explain how the pyramids were built by men rolling gigantic rocks over logs for miles and somehow hoisting them into a perfect structure, one that would not be easy for our own advanced technology to duplicate. These lame explanations cannot be proven either, and yet they are excepted BECAUSE they satisfy the RELIGIOUS Establishment's ideas of history which does not leave room for any such idea of an advanced society or aliens.

This evidence is ignored and covered up. There is evidence of a huge underground city in the grand canyon that is protected by the National Historical Society. It is off limits and top secret. No one is allowed to venture there.

It is the RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT who work so hard to cover up the true history of the world for their own selfish benefit and you, an atheist of all things, lend support to their efforts by the shear fact that you refuse to see or consider or search for the evidence that does exist, and you listen to THEIR EXPERTS.

You, Bushidobillyclub, fail to consider that some of your information is flawed and sorely lacking. You just sit there and demand "credible evidence" for things that just don't agree with what and who you have chosen to believe.

I wish people such as yourself would actively seek to either find or debunk this evidence IN PERSON instead of just sitting around demanding that someone else to prove to you that it is "credible." (I'm not young enough or in shape to go exploring the grand canyon or into underground caverns and such.)

But your explanation of the ancient machines and structures are not convincing at all. It is as silly as believing that three drunk Irishmen with sticks and poles are creating intricate crop circle designs all over the world. It is simply ABSURD!

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I do not necessarily share the idea of aliens building the pyramids -- though I do not dispute their influence (i.e. antigravity mechanizm lifting multi-tonn blocks) -- but its quite possible when they have been errected (precisely depicting the relationship of Sirius to the other stars), some/all of them might've been covered with titanium alloy surface covering (or something like that)...
But, don't you know what happens to anything great left unattended (especially, when nobody's watching) -- even nowadays???
Especially so many milleniums ago...

The only problem with the aliens theory is
Why would an advanced civilization visit and get involved with the primitive creatures populating Earth (at the time of the pharos)???
(Maybe an accident of some sort, requiring an emergency landing?..)

Though, the only other explanation would have to be a highly technological society already existed at that time...

I don't remember who's coined the following phrase, but supposedly that's where the answer most probably would be --
BACK TO THE FUTURE...

Why wouldn't they?

I have said this before and I will say it again. It is all about business and trade. Perhaps they were mining for minerals, or any number of things. Perhaps they were using humans for slaves.

If you look at human history and ancient scripture you will find that slavery was a common and very excepted practice even up until our forefathers took slaves for plantations in the south. That was not very long ago. It has only been very recently that we as a country took a dim view of slavery. But slave and human trafficking is still practiced in this world.

But our own slavery has evolved to being put into deep debt and into doing business with Federal reserve notes which are not backed by silver or gold. They represent debt that we owe. Our property and our children are the collateral for these loans. We are indentured slaves still and we just don't realize it. As the gap grows between the very rich and the very poor the evidence of indentured slaves is more apparent.

Maids and servants who cannot afford to live in the city or in resort towns like Aspen are given quarters to live. The rich must have someone to wait on them. Yes, they get paid, but they are slaves just the same because they have to use that money to pay for their living expenses. Their masters do not take responsibility for them.

So slavery is still in practice on this earth and the ruling elite are the representatives of the alien influence that owns this planet.

We are a product. Its all about business and trade.

naw, the gov is using such to make the people more vulnerable and willing to follow, using hollograms to create such illusions, but when they find out such is truly real, a frightful day for them indeed it shall be???

You jest David.

Everything is a hologram. Even your brain. The government has nothing to do with that.