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Topic: Obamas deficite more than four times that of Bush's
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Sat 03/21/09 12:35 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090321/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_budget

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's budget would produce $9.3 trillion in deficits over the next decade, more than four times the deficits of Republican George W. Bush's presidency, congressional auditors said Friday.

The new Congressional Budget Office figures offered a far more dire outlook for Obama's budget than the new administration predicted just last month — a deficit $2.3 trillion worse. It's a prospect even the president's own budget director called unsustainable....

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Sat 03/21/09 02:41 AM

I received this from a friend. Thought you folks might want to know about this. Check the links.

Josh



Please send this to everybody on your list

It is very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the
House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.


We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.
Even gun
shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
It is registered
You are fingerprinted
You supply a current Driver's License
You supply your Social Security #
You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing.

Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison. If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family - pass this along.


Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and "spring into action". Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.


This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their victims.



http://www. opencongress. org/bill/111-h45/show

http://www. govtrack. us/congress/bill. xpd?bill=h111-45

Please...copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA .


"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me, and I may not remember. Involve me, and I'll understand.
" -- Native American Proverb

this bill also requires that if you fail to get a license you have 2 years to turn in any currently owned guns!

To keep up with what Obama and the left are doing go to www. oilforimigration. org daily. There many links on the right of the page. Obama File is a good one, Investigating Obama, Natural Born Citizen, Right side of Life, Citizen Wells, Atlas Shrugs, Restore the Constitution, Obamacrimes, Stephen Pigeion, Allen Keyes..Join the fight to demand Obama release all his records before he destroys this country. To date there have been 40 law suits filed. More on the way. We have 4 TN House Reps joining the suits with so far 3 other out of state Reps and Military colonels. Not one case has been dismissed on the merits. Obama has spent 1 million dollars to keep his records sealed and avoid answering the suits. When 20 dollars would settle this issue. Instead he is defiant and risks civil unrest. What is he hiding?... Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen and is illegally in office! Foreign father, not natural born US, born in Hawaii or Kenya, does not mater.


Check out the "Strategy of Manufactured Crisis"

We have 30 States declaring Sovereignty from the US, under the 10th Amendment, telling the Feds no More, overstepping the Constitution. Check out New Hampshire resolution. Further infringement, on any state they will nullify the US Constitution! Obama already asking Senate to stop this movement.


We have 84 socialists / communists ( New Party or Progressive Dems are socialist and many ties to CPU) in the House and 2 in the Senate. Pelosi, Clinton, and Holis were on the last list. Panetta is big in IPS another socialist / communist group with ties to KGB.

New Zeal: Congressional Progressive Caucus-Fifth Column at the Heart of the US Government

Already legislation proposed to do away with presidential term limits. Stimulus disbursements delayed until 2011, 2012 to fund the next election -ACORN and others to receive massive funding. Illegals to all be given citizenship by 2012.......

Every incumbent needs to go in 2010 and 2012! Dem or Republican! If we can still vote? or not in prison? 360 million for 6? long term emergency/ (concentration) camps at closed military bases proposed?

Not one objected to the Electoral Vote count to make sure Obama was vetted, after getting hundreds of thousands of letters and emails to ask them to make Obama disclose his records Before Jan 20,09. Hawaii issues birth certificates to those born outside the US. The one Obama has posted is not the full long form and proves nothing. The Senate vetted McCain , Senate resolution 511, but ignored vetting Obama. They tried to change the Natural Born requirement to be President to cover Obama in the spring of '08 but failed to pass, as it did the 26 times this has been proposed before. Dems ran him anyway with full knowledge he is not Natural born per the Constitution.
see Vattell Law of Nations article 212-217

We have 4 UN treaties Bush refused to sign. Obama / Clinton will sign them all. Give sovereignty to the UN ,bans guns allows UN to prosecute/ and mandate gun bans. High seas control, water and rivers control, clean air control, all taxed to break the US.


Masterminds of the USS Cole and 911 attacks released...
Obamas first calls and interviews as President with Muslims. 20 million to Hamas for relocation, of 100,000 people, last week, possibly to the US.....Obama quoting Koran....

Just now, saw report Dems have brought up another 410 billion spending bill, full of earmarks. Watch the stock market drop tomorrow! But it will be Bush's fault...won't it?

Billions coming up next for measly alt energy instead of drilling, coal to gas and Nuclear. Instead , Al Gore bull.... mandates for billions more!
Promised 800 billion to Africa / UN in Campaign
Dems are passing bills they have not even read! They all ought to be prosecuted for treason!

Texas askes for help at the boarder tells the feds to forget it after, no reply for days " we'll take care of Texas our selves" Texas National Guard on high allert after days of protest kill 15 at the boarder. Drug related. Fear we will get Mexican civil war spilling into Texas.


The bible says woe to those who ask Israel to give up her lands....Folks we are in deep trouble if we don't find someone with "standing" to sue, to remove Obama from Office. Or a government Official high enough to have him prosecuted for fraud.


Check out the National Grand Jury Movement... Tea Party Movement...we must take our head out of the sand and do what we can.


Pass this on it won't be on the news!

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Sat 03/21/09 03:25 AM
well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?

madisonman's photo
Sat 03/21/09 03:29 AM
It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.

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Sat 03/21/09 01:22 PM
Edited by AndrewAV on Sat 03/21/09 01:25 PM

well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.

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Sat 03/21/09 02:18 PM


well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad

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Sat 03/21/09 02:20 PM
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AndrewAV's photo
Sat 03/21/09 02:24 PM



well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad


did you just pull every bad occurrence you could think of out of your ass or something? You exaggerate too much. how is a communist revolution any different economically from what we are currently experiencing?

And truthfully, I don't think we suffered at all as a whole. We've learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing if we rely on everyone else to fix our own problems.

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Sat 03/21/09 02:29 PM




well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad


did you just pull every bad occurrence you could think of out of your ass or something? You exaggerate too much. how is a communist revolution any different economically from what we are currently experiencing?

And truthfully, I don't think we suffered at all as a whole. We've learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing if we rely on everyone else to fix our own problems.
Do you realy think the great american people would sit back and watch their kids starve to death or go without healthcare? Something would snap eventualy and it wouldnt be pretty.

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Sat 03/21/09 02:41 PM





well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad


did you just pull every bad occurrence you could think of out of your ass or something? You exaggerate too much. how is a communist revolution any different economically from what we are currently experiencing?

And truthfully, I don't think we suffered at all as a whole. We've learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing if we rely on everyone else to fix our own problems.
Do you realy think the great american people would sit back and watch their kids starve to death or go without healthcare? Something would snap eventualy and it wouldnt be pretty.


not necessarily, but I do not see the next Bolshevik revolution either. do you really think that giving them all this help temporarily will ever teach them responsibility?

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Sat 03/21/09 03:10 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 03/21/09 03:15 PM






well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad


did you just pull every bad occurrence you could think of out of your ass or something? You exaggerate too much. how is a communist revolution any different economically from what we are currently experiencing?

And truthfully, I don't think we suffered at all as a whole. We've learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing if we rely on everyone else to fix our own problems.
Do you realy think the great american people would sit back and watch their kids starve to death or go without healthcare? Something would snap eventualy and it wouldnt be pretty.


not necessarily, but I do not see the next Bolshevik revolution either. do you really think that giving them all this help temporarily will ever teach them responsibility?
No the powers that be would never allow a bolshevik revelution they would just declare martial law, suspend the constitution and create an even more brutal oppresive police state. bye bye american pie.

AndrewAV's photo
Sat 03/21/09 04:17 PM







well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad


did you just pull every bad occurrence you could think of out of your ass or something? You exaggerate too much. how is a communist revolution any different economically from what we are currently experiencing?

And truthfully, I don't think we suffered at all as a whole. We've learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing if we rely on everyone else to fix our own problems.
Do you realy think the great american people would sit back and watch their kids starve to death or go without healthcare? Something would snap eventualy and it wouldnt be pretty.


not necessarily, but I do not see the next Bolshevik revolution either. do you really think that giving them all this help temporarily will ever teach them responsibility?
No the powers that be would never allow a bolshevik revelution they would just declare martial law, suspend the constitution and create an even more brutal oppresive police state. bye bye american pie.


the american pie went out with the trash decades ago.

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Sat 03/21/09 04:34 PM








well, if Obama's deficit is 4 times as much as Bush's... how many times was Bush's deficit more than Clinton's?


Same stupid liberal/conservative "defend my side" response. So much for f*cking change. QUIT DEFENDING YOUR GUY'S SCREWUPS WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S MISTAKES!

Right now, the CBO estimates that Obama's budget will result in a $2.3T ADDITIONAL deficit (as in, over the $7T Obama's people are saying)over the next decade. That's half the debt added by Bush in 8 years! And that's only if the economy gets better - any worse and it'll balloon even more. That also is only the budget deficit - other bailouts and socialist ventures are not included.

Bush being a d*uchebag does not allow Obama free reign. yeah, Bush overspent (the war was not the bulk of it either) and he should be held accountable for that. But him overspending does not give anyone, especially a candidate that ran on change, the right to do the exact same thing.

It costs money to fix the Bush mess, it wasnt going to clean itself up. Years of tax cuts for the rich and fat contracts for the Iraq war profiteers came at the expense of our infrastructure. How can anyone keep a straight face and blame Obama for this mess? While gas prices were shooting through the roof and a war being waged bleeding our treasury dry we didnt hear a peep from these hoaxters. When a republican congress passed the patriot act we didnt hear a word from them about "no one had the time to read it" Now these same hoaxsters who created so much suffering are bemoaning that no one read the stimulas act. Thats it for me for now off to a union meeting, working hard to keep good paying taxable paychecks right here in america.


Actually, yes, it would clean itself up. That's how capitalism works. we should have let the banks, AIG, GM, Chrysler and all the the whining p*ssies fall. Others buy the assets and new companies form. The Democrats would never let that happen, however, because of all the little girlie union people that want mommy union to get everything for them instead of actually (here's a thought!) working for it. If GM fell, the UAW would go right along with it because the new owners would not give the asinine deals the current members get.
Meanwhile back in reality, families starve, riots ensue. crime increases, anarchy, civil unrest, martial law, possibly a communist revelution...........hmmm doesnt realy sound all THAT bad


did you just pull every bad occurrence you could think of out of your ass or something? You exaggerate too much. how is a communist revolution any different economically from what we are currently experiencing?

And truthfully, I don't think we suffered at all as a whole. We've learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing if we rely on everyone else to fix our own problems.
Do you realy think the great american people would sit back and watch their kids starve to death or go without healthcare? Something would snap eventualy and it wouldnt be pretty.


not necessarily, but I do not see the next Bolshevik revolution either. do you really think that giving them all this help temporarily will ever teach them responsibility?
No the powers that be would never allow a bolshevik revelution they would just declare martial law, suspend the constitution and create an even more brutal oppresive police state. bye bye american pie.


the american pie went out with the trash decades ago.
Maybe in your world but not in minelaugh

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 03/21/09 05:07 PM


I received this from a friend. Thought you folks might want to know about this. Check the links.

Josh



Please send this to everybody on your list

It is very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the
House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.


We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.
Even gun
shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
It is registered
You are fingerprinted
You supply a current Driver's License
You supply your Social Security #
You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing.

Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison. If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family - pass this along.


Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and "spring into action". Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.


This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their victims.



http://www. opencongress. org/bill/111-h45/show

http://www. govtrack. us/congress/bill. xpd?bill=h111-45

Please...copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA .


"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me, and I may not remember. Involve me, and I'll understand.
" -- Native American Proverb

this bill also requires that if you fail to get a license you have 2 years to turn in any currently owned guns!

To keep up with what Obama and the left are doing go to www. oilforimigration. org daily. There many links on the right of the page. Obama File is a good one, Investigating Obama, Natural Born Citizen, Right side of Life, Citizen Wells, Atlas Shrugs, Restore the Constitution, Obamacrimes, Stephen Pigeion, Allen Keyes..Join the fight to demand Obama release all his records before he destroys this country. To date there have been 40 law suits filed. More on the way. We have 4 TN House Reps joining the suits with so far 3 other out of state Reps and Military colonels. Not one case has been dismissed on the merits. Obama has spent 1 million dollars to keep his records sealed and avoid answering the suits. When 20 dollars would settle this issue. Instead he is defiant and risks civil unrest. What is he hiding?... Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen and is illegally in office! Foreign father, not natural born US, born in Hawaii or Kenya, does not mater.


Check out the "Strategy of Manufactured Crisis"

We have 30 States declaring Sovereignty from the US, under the 10th Amendment, telling the Feds no More, overstepping the Constitution. Check out New Hampshire resolution. Further infringement, on any state they will nullify the US Constitution! Obama already asking Senate to stop this movement.


We have 84 socialists / communists ( New Party or Progressive Dems are socialist and many ties to CPU) in the House and 2 in the Senate. Pelosi, Clinton, and Holis were on the last list. Panetta is big in IPS another socialist / communist group with ties to KGB.

New Zeal: Congressional Progressive Caucus-Fifth Column at the Heart of the US Government

Already legislation proposed to do away with presidential term limits. Stimulus disbursements delayed until 2011, 2012 to fund the next election -ACORN and others to receive massive funding. Illegals to all be given citizenship by 2012.......

Every incumbent needs to go in 2010 and 2012! Dem or Republican! If we can still vote? or not in prison? 360 million for 6? long term emergency/ (concentration) camps at closed military bases proposed?

Not one objected to the Electoral Vote count to make sure Obama was vetted, after getting hundreds of thousands of letters and emails to ask them to make Obama disclose his records Before Jan 20,09. Hawaii issues birth certificates to those born outside the US. The one Obama has posted is not the full long form and proves nothing. The Senate vetted McCain , Senate resolution 511, but ignored vetting Obama. They tried to change the Natural Born requirement to be President to cover Obama in the spring of '08 but failed to pass, as it did the 26 times this has been proposed before. Dems ran him anyway with full knowledge he is not Natural born per the Constitution.
see Vattell Law of Nations article 212-217

We have 4 UN treaties Bush refused to sign. Obama / Clinton will sign them all. Give sovereignty to the UN ,bans guns allows UN to prosecute/ and mandate gun bans. High seas control, water and rivers control, clean air control, all taxed to break the US.


Masterminds of the USS Cole and 911 attacks released...
Obamas first calls and interviews as President with Muslims. 20 million to Hamas for relocation, of 100,000 people, last week, possibly to the US.....Obama quoting Koran....

Just now, saw report Dems have brought up another 410 billion spending bill, full of earmarks. Watch the stock market drop tomorrow! But it will be Bush's fault...won't it?

Billions coming up next for measly alt energy instead of drilling, coal to gas and Nuclear. Instead , Al Gore bull.... mandates for billions more!
Promised 800 billion to Africa / UN in Campaign
Dems are passing bills they have not even read! They all ought to be prosecuted for treason!

Texas askes for help at the boarder tells the feds to forget it after, no reply for days " we'll take care of Texas our selves" Texas National Guard on high allert after days of protest kill 15 at the boarder. Drug related. Fear we will get Mexican civil war spilling into Texas.


The bible says woe to those who ask Israel to give up her lands....Folks we are in deep trouble if we don't find someone with "standing" to sue, to remove Obama from Office. Or a government Official high enough to have him prosecuted for fraud.


Check out the National Grand Jury Movement... Tea Party Movement...we must take our head out of the sand and do what we can.


Pass this on it won't be on the news!


if it's in an email...we must believe. BTW...there are troops at the border now and doing a good job.

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Sat 03/21/09 05:23 PM
Edited by boo2u on Sat 03/21/09 05:24 PM

if it's in an email...we must believe. BTW...there are troops at the border now and doing a good job.

Just more people that still can't stand that Obama won, and will spread bs as far and wide as they can hoping that if they do it enough someone will believe them.

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Sat 03/21/09 07:26 PM
way to go boo...ya killed the thread grumble laugh

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Sat 03/21/09 07:31 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Sat 03/21/09 07:33 PM



I received this from a friend. Thought you folks might want to know about this. Check the links.

Josh



Please send this to everybody on your list

It is very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the
House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.


We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.
Even gun
shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
It is registered
You are fingerprinted
You supply a current Driver's License
You supply your Social Security #
You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing.

Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison. If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family - pass this along.


Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and "spring into action". Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.


This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their victims.



http://www. opencongress. org/bill/111-h45/show

http://www. govtrack. us/congress/bill. xpd?bill=h111-45

Please...copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA .


"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me, and I may not remember. Involve me, and I'll understand.
" -- Native American Proverb

this bill also requires that if you fail to get a license you have 2 years to turn in any currently owned guns!

To keep up with what Obama and the left are doing go to www. oilforimigration. org daily. There many links on the right of the page. Obama File is a good one, Investigating Obama, Natural Born Citizen, Right side of Life, Citizen Wells, Atlas Shrugs, Restore the Constitution, Obamacrimes, Stephen Pigeion, Allen Keyes..Join the fight to demand Obama release all his records before he destroys this country. To date there have been 40 law suits filed. More on the way. We have 4 TN House Reps joining the suits with so far 3 other out of state Reps and Military colonels. Not one case has been dismissed on the merits. Obama has spent 1 million dollars to keep his records sealed and avoid answering the suits. When 20 dollars would settle this issue. Instead he is defiant and risks civil unrest. What is he hiding?... Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen and is illegally in office! Foreign father, not natural born US, born in Hawaii or Kenya, does not mater.


Check out the "Strategy of Manufactured Crisis"

We have 30 States declaring Sovereignty from the US, under the 10th Amendment, telling the Feds no More, overstepping the Constitution. Check out New Hampshire resolution. Further infringement, on any state they will nullify the US Constitution! Obama already asking Senate to stop this movement.


We have 84 socialists / communists ( New Party or Progressive Dems are socialist and many ties to CPU) in the House and 2 in the Senate. Pelosi, Clinton, and Holis were on the last list. Panetta is big in IPS another socialist / communist group with ties to KGB.

New Zeal: Congressional Progressive Caucus-Fifth Column at the Heart of the US Government

Already legislation proposed to do away with presidential term limits. Stimulus disbursements delayed until 2011, 2012 to fund the next election -ACORN and others to receive massive funding. Illegals to all be given citizenship by 2012.......

Every incumbent needs to go in 2010 and 2012! Dem or Republican! If we can still vote? or not in prison? 360 million for 6? long term emergency/ (concentration) camps at closed military bases proposed?

Not one objected to the Electoral Vote count to make sure Obama was vetted, after getting hundreds of thousands of letters and emails to ask them to make Obama disclose his records Before Jan 20,09. Hawaii issues birth certificates to those born outside the US. The one Obama has posted is not the full long form and proves nothing. The Senate vetted McCain , Senate resolution 511, but ignored vetting Obama. They tried to change the Natural Born requirement to be President to cover Obama in the spring of '08 but failed to pass, as it did the 26 times this has been proposed before. Dems ran him anyway with full knowledge he is not Natural born per the Constitution.
see Vattell Law of Nations article 212-217

We have 4 UN treaties Bush refused to sign. Obama / Clinton will sign them all. Give sovereignty to the UN ,bans guns allows UN to prosecute/ and mandate gun bans. High seas control, water and rivers control, clean air control, all taxed to break the US.


Masterminds of the USS Cole and 911 attacks released...
Obamas first calls and interviews as President with Muslims. 20 million to Hamas for relocation, of 100,000 people, last week, possibly to the US.....Obama quoting Koran....

Just now, saw report Dems have brought up another 410 billion spending bill, full of earmarks. Watch the stock market drop tomorrow! But it will be Bush's fault...won't it?

Billions coming up next for measly alt energy instead of drilling, coal to gas and Nuclear. Instead , Al Gore bull.... mandates for billions more!
Promised 800 billion to Africa / UN in Campaign
Dems are passing bills they have not even read! They all ought to be prosecuted for treason!

Texas askes for help at the boarder tells the feds to forget it after, no reply for days " we'll take care of Texas our selves" Texas National Guard on high allert after days of protest kill 15 at the boarder. Drug related. Fear we will get Mexican civil war spilling into Texas.


The bible says woe to those who ask Israel to give up her lands....Folks we are in deep trouble if we don't find someone with "standing" to sue, to remove Obama from Office. Or a government Official high enough to have him prosecuted for fraud.


Check out the National Grand Jury Movement... Tea Party Movement...we must take our head out of the sand and do what we can.


Pass this on it won't be on the news!


if it's in an email...we must believe. BTW...there are troops at the border now and doing a good job.


Don't know about the other stuff but HR 45 is real.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

But, it hasn't been voted on yet. Lets hope congress is corrupt enough to allow such a thing...

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 03/21/09 07:36 PM
DRIVIN!!!!! I'm going to call you a tornado now...you sucked all my fun out of this laugh

warmachine's photo
Sat 03/21/09 07:40 PM
It's all the same. Bush created the precidenct for this crap and Obama just kicked the door the rest of way open.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 03/21/09 07:42 PM

DRIVIN!!!!! I'm going to call you a tornado now...you sucked all my fun out of this laugh


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