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Topic: Oh Beautiful
scttrbrain's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:10 AM
I wonder; how many diehard, bible banging evangelicals know that one of their most beloved patriotic songs was written by none other than a lesbian?

Katherine Bates, who was a poet, author, and professor at Wellsley College wrote "America the Beautiful." Bates lived for some 25 years with the Dean of Wellsley College, Katherine Coman.

"Oh Beautiful for spacious skies,

And amber waves of grain,

For purple mountain majesties

Above the fruited plains !

America ! America !

God shed his grace on thee !

And crown thy good with brotherhood

From sea to shining sea !"

HOLY crap!!! Don't tell anyone...it will be pulled from music archives everywhere.

Kat




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Thu 03/26/09 11:13 AM
Wow, I thought she was an actress!!! :wink:
So.......... what's your point exactly?spock

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Thu 03/26/09 11:16 AM

Wow, I thought she was an actress!!! :wink:
So.......... what's your point exactly?spock


We can't have all this lesbian authored stuff out there. It's corrupting our youth!

No more America The Beautiful for my kids.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:16 AM
there are debates about that....but it really doesn't matter IMO. it's a wonderful song...who cares if she was gay or living with someone in a platonic relationship??? it doesn't decrease her ability to write a wonderful song

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:17 AM
Oh, Kat, that is too funny. How ironic is that?laugh

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Thu 03/26/09 11:17 AM

there are debates about that....but it really doesn't matter IMO. it's a wonderful song...who cares if she was gay or living with someone in a platonic relationship??? it doesn't decrease her ability to write a wonderful song


We can't take chances. Ban this song immediately!!!!

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:20 AM
Edited by scttrbrain on Thu 03/26/09 11:20 AM
My point? It isn't clear? Devout christians or evangelicals love that song as many or most of Americans do. But want to say that gays and lesbians can not be christian or valuable.

Kat

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:24 AM

My point? It isn't clear? Devout christians or evangelicals love that song as many or most of Americans do. But want to say that gays and lesbians can not be christian or valuable.

Kat
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MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:24 AM


there are debates about that....but it really doesn't matter IMO. it's a wonderful song...who cares if she was gay or living with someone in a platonic relationship??? it doesn't decrease her ability to write a wonderful song


We can't take chances. Ban this song immediately!!!!
laugh laugh laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:25 AM

My point? It isn't clear? Devout christians or evangelicals love that song as many or most of Americans do. But want to say that gays and lesbians can not be christian or valuable.

Kat


not valuable???? as far as being Christian...I'm not going to say one way or another because it's a personal relationship

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:29 AM


My point? It isn't clear? Devout christians or evangelicals love that song as many or most of Americans do. But want to say that gays and lesbians can not be christian or valuable.

Kat


not valuable???? as far as being Christian...I'm not going to say one way or another because it's a personal relationship


Really....so many conversations come in here pertaining that gays and lesbians are going to hell for being gay. Because the Bible says so. They think God hates them. I do not believe that. I believe in God. I do not believe there are mistakes in His community.

Kat

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:30 AM
Anyway...I just thought it was ironic, that's all.

Kat

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:30 AM



My point? It isn't clear? Devout christians or evangelicals love that song as many or most of Americans do. But want to say that gays and lesbians can not be christian or valuable.

Kat


not valuable???? as far as being Christian...I'm not going to say one way or another because it's a personal relationship


Really....so many conversations come in here pertaining that gays and lesbians are going to hell for being gay. Because the Bible says so. They think God hates them. I do not believe that. I believe in God. I do not believe there are mistakes in His community.

Kat


I don't agree with people doing that IMO. but that is their choice to say just like others have the right to debate against it. i have no problem with Katherine Bates....she is a wonderful writer.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:32 AM
Kat...I'm not trying to bash you by any means. All I am saying is that it shouldn't make a difference of whether she is gay or not. her personal life doesn't mean the song is any less than what it is

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:33 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 03/26/09 11:34 AM

Kat...I'm not trying to bash you by any means. All I am saying is that it shouldn't make a difference of whether she is gay or not. her personal life doesn't mean the song is any less than what it is


It shouldn't make a difference but to many people it does.
Sad but true.


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:35 AM
just as there are people that would want the song pulled because it has God in it.

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:36 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 03/26/09 11:36 AM

just as there are people that would want the song pulled because it has God in it.


Only if it's in a public school. That's the way it should be.



yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:36 AM


Kat...I'm not trying to bash you by any means. All I am saying is that it shouldn't make a difference of whether she is gay or not. her personal life doesn't mean the song is any less than what it is


It shouldn't make a difference but to many people it does.
Sad but true.




all I am saying...to me it doesn't. there is a debate over her relationship anyway....but to me it doesn't matter. and you are right...to some it does....and they have a right to their belief as I do

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:37 AM


just as there are people that would want the song pulled because it has God in it.


Only if it's in a public school. lol


it's not appropriate for a public school...true...but you know people will complain regardless

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 03/26/09 12:30 PM
SIGGGGHHHHHH....yup.

But, I personally have no problem with God being mentioned in school. I bring my kids up to at least have the chance to know why I believe. They make the decisions after that.

We act like children have no reasoning of their own. They do grow up and make their own choices, no matter what we preach or do or don't believe in.

Kat

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