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Topic: a world currency
TJN's photo
Mon 04/06/09 09:06 PM




Is there a precedent in American history which supports this unemployment claim?

I always find it a little ironic when the consumer cost of a product is used in support of outsourcing... It is often claimed that the cost of employing American workers drive the retail prices up, and that is why it has been necessary to outsource.

If one follows that logic, then why, when the labor costs are cut by nearly 90% do the prices not reflect it?

If the reason given for outsourcing is that the retail costs were too high and this resulted in the labor being outsourced, then why have the prices not fallen accordingly?

Americans without jobs, or those who have been forced to take lesser paying jobs are basically being forced to support the slave labor because the decrease in income limits the ability to purchase anything else.

This country was not intended to use capitalism to bankrupt it's society, while bolstering Communism and elitism.

Greed... not capitalism as it was intended, is THE problem which underlies the current state of our nation's economy and it's dependency upon countries which hold it's people as we would hold prisoners.


Well said!drinker


you do realize that greed (aka self-interest) is the basis of capitalism, right?


It seems to be the end result in our country at least. I believe the forefathers of this country did not intend for greed to be the motivation for our capitalistic system though.

Greed corupts any system thats why none of them will ever work.

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Mon 04/06/09 09:29 PM


It seems to be the end result in our country at least. I believe the forefathers of this country did not intend for greed to be the motivation for our capitalistic system though.


No, of course, this country was built on LOVE.

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Mon 04/06/09 09:31 PM

Greed corrupts any system thats why none of them will ever work.


Yes, in this case, the greed corrupted the system. But, it wasn't the greed of businessmen, as most seem to think.

It was the greed of the common people, multiplied by their stupidity, for they did not see the end that their greed will bring.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/06/09 10:32 PM
it happens

creativesoul's photo
Mon 04/06/09 11:04 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Mon 04/06/09 11:07 PM
Nogames states the following regarding greed corrupting the system in the US...

Yes, in this case, the greed corrupted the system. But, it wasn't the greed of businessmen, as most seem to think.

It was the greed of the common people, multiplied by their stupidity, for they did not see the end that their greed will bring.


There is much to consider/factor into a conclusion of this sort. Personally, I do not find enough evidence to place blame purely on the common citizen for the state of the economy nor the state of the union. I am curious whether or not this was well thought out, or just a personal rant... which we all have. :wink:

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Mon 04/06/09 11:16 PM
I have 20 euro saying we get the euro!smokin

nogames39's photo
Mon 04/06/09 11:21 PM

There is much to consider/factor into a conclusion of this sort. Personally, I do not find enough evidence to place blame purely on the common citizen for the state of the economy nor the state of the union. I am curious whether or not this was well thought out, or just a personal rant... which we all have. :wink:


Since I do not think you base your thinking on reality, I am not surprised that you would not come to the same conclusion as mine. It is useless activity, to argue with those who have different definitions.

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Mon 04/06/09 11:28 PM

I have 20 euro saying we get the euro!smokin


I think, we will get more of the same. If China or Russia really wanted the stability of gold, they could have accepted the policy of continuous conversion of earned dollars to gold. It is curious to note, that such a policy does not require anyone else to convert to gold-backed currency.

Yet, they seem to talk about a gold-based currency. This means, that the stability of gold is not what they currently seek. May-be they want to issue the next fiat currency, so that they can fleece the world for a while, like we did for so many years.

And on our side, the support for another fiat currency is the strongest.

Thus, I conclude, that the next currency will be a fiat. And then fiat, yet again. Until such time that all gullible people are removed from the gene pool.

May-be then, the world will have a chance with a real honest money.

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Mon 04/06/09 11:34 PM
Since I do not think you base your thinking on reality, I am not surprised that you would not come to the same conclusion as mine. It is useless activity, to argue with those who have different definitions.


Does that mean it was a rant, or are you willing to shed a little light upon your reality?

huh

I am curious how you have drawn such a conclusion. Remembering the comments earlier regarding minimum wage and unionization, would those things come into your assessment of the greedy commoners?

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