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Topic: You Can't Hunker Down Here! Tent Cities Evicted.
willing2's photo
Sun 04/12/09 01:54 PM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 04/12/09 01:56 PM
I'm gonna' push my luck again and post some more dreadful news.
Seems a lot of tent cities are in Ca. and most of the reporting is kept in Ca.
I can see the same thing happening in other parts of the country as well. These are examples.

Some of the dates are older but, remember, this economic thing and foreclosures has been going on for a while.
One other thing. I sure hope this doesn't turn into another blame this one or that one thread.

I'd like, if you will, to offer solutions.

Tent City residents gather as the city of Ontario starts the process of sorting out who may stay and who must leave. The city issued wristbands – blue for Ontario residents, who may stay, orange for people who need to provide more documentation, and white for those who must leave. The aim is to reduce the number of people living there from over 400 to 170.
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Officials begin thinning out the encampment, saying the city can provide space only for those who once lived there and can prove it.
By David Kelly, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 18, 2008

Union Pacific Railroad Fences in Homeless Encampment
By Mike Rhodes

In Fresno,
The Union Pacific Railroad is putting up a fence, topped with barbed wire, at the H street homeless encampment in downtown Fresno. The section of fence now being built along H street will completely enclose the encampment, which is on Union Pacific property. The railroad wants the homeless to move and has posted no trespassing signs.


Sacramento’s Tent City Residents to be Evicted

March 20, 2009 by barbararaisbeck

After Oprah brought national attention to the tent city in Sacramento, California, Governor Schwarzenegger paid them a visit. The occupants of tent city voiced their elation that they are now going to be taken care of, but are they simply being evicted with no future homestead in place? Is the offer of a free dumpster a way to clean the area up before they get ousted?
As many as 50 people a week arrive at the tent city and the authorities estimate it was home to more than 1,200 people

Porterville, Ca.
Jan. 5--More than a dozen people living in the controversial tent community on East Olive Avenue packed their belongings and vacated the property by Wednesday night.

Though Porterville police officers never arrived to enforce the property owners noon-Wednesday deadline, the "residents" of Tent City said they would respect Angel Mendoza's requests to leave his land.


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Sun 04/12/09 01:58 PM

I'm gonna' push my luck again and post some more dreadful news.
Seems a lot of tent cities are in Ca. and most of the reporting is kept in Ca.
I can see the same thing happening in other parts of the country as well. These are examples.

Some of the dates are older but, remember, this economic thing and foreclosures has been going on for a while.
One other thing. I sure hope this doesn't turn into another blame this one or that one thread.

I'd like, if you will, to offer solutions.

Tent City residents gather as the city of Ontario starts the process of sorting out who may stay and who must leave. The city issued wristbands – blue for Ontario residents, who may stay, orange for people who need to provide more documentation, and white for those who must leave. The aim is to reduce the number of people living there from over 400 to 170.
Email Picture
Officials begin thinning out the encampment, saying the city can provide space only for those who once lived there and can prove it.
By David Kelly, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 18, 2008

Union Pacific Railroad Fences in Homeless Encampment
By Mike Rhodes

In Fresno,
The Union Pacific Railroad is putting up a fence, topped with barbed wire, at the H street homeless encampment in downtown Fresno. The section of fence now being built along H street will completely enclose the encampment, which is on Union Pacific property. The railroad wants the homeless to move and has posted no trespassing signs.


Sacramento’s Tent City Residents to be Evicted

March 20, 2009 by barbararaisbeck

After Oprah brought national attention to the tent city in Sacramento, California, Governor Schwarzenegger paid them a visit. The occupants of tent city voiced their elation that they are now going to be taken care of, but are they simply being evicted with no future homestead in place? Is the offer of a free dumpster a way to clean the area up before they get ousted?
As many as 50 people a week arrive at the tent city and the authorities estimate it was home to more than 1,200 people

Porterville, Ca.
Jan. 5--More than a dozen people living in the controversial tent community on East Olive Avenue packed their belongings and vacated the property by Wednesday night.

Though Porterville police officers never arrived to enforce the property owners noon-Wednesday deadline, the "residents" of Tent City said they would respect Angel Mendoza's requests to leave his land.


bigsmile Very interesting bigsmile

nogames39's photo
Sun 04/12/09 02:01 PM
While I support the principle of homesteading, I recognize that it shouldn't be done on someone else's private property.

Don't we have miles and miles of government owned land?

willing2's photo
Sun 04/12/09 02:09 PM

While I support the principle of homesteading, I recognize that it shouldn't be done on someone else's private property.

Don't we have miles and miles of government owned land?

You're right.
They could just walk or hitch-hike the 50 miles or so to the store or soup kitchen. Meals-on-wheels doesn't deliver to tent cities.

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Sun 04/12/09 02:13 PM
Shouldn't you try to put yourself in the shoes of the property owner?

The fact that these people were risking recklessly with the real estate gamble, and lost their shirts, shouldn't mean that it is now your problem, and you should surrender some of your real estate for the benefit of the gamblers.

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Sun 04/12/09 02:18 PM
Wait until people start resisting being shoved around any more. We are going to start seeing shanty towns like in Mexico at this rate. Worst is when the homeless begin to refuse to leave when told to. The worst part is there is not real solution to the problem because the people need to go where the work is and when there is no work, well....

Then what.

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Sun 04/12/09 02:43 PM

Shouldn't you try to put yourself in the shoes of the property owner?

The fact that these people were risking recklessly with the real estate gamble, and lost their shirts, shouldn't mean that it is now your problem, and you should surrender some of your real estate for the benefit of the gamblers.

No, I won't try to put myself in their shoes.
I think, in most of the cases, to loose your house, you would have had to loose your job first, no?

I am asking for solutions, also. Do you have any?

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Sun 04/12/09 02:44 PM
Then the order will crumble.

You're right.

A little socialism will always require more and more, until finally there is no more, and the whole thing will crumble. Such is the nature of socialism.

To stop the socialism requires withdrawal. There is no magic.

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Sun 04/12/09 02:47 PM


Shouldn't you try to put yourself in the shoes of the property owner?

The fact that these people were risking recklessly with the real estate gamble, and lost their shirts, shouldn't mean that it is now your problem, and you should surrender some of your real estate for the benefit of the gamblers.

No, I won't try to put myself in their shoes.
I think, in most of the cases, to loose your house, you would have had to loose your job first, no?

I am asking for solutions, also. Do you have any?


A solution? Yes I do have solutions. But, you have to first let me know what is it exactly that needs to be solved.

Human stupidity and greed can not be solved, for instance. You can't have stupid people not doing stupid things. They wouldn't be stupid then.

As for some other things, yes, there are solutions. Invented long ago and proven to work. So, what are we trying to solve?

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Sun 04/12/09 02:53 PM
I have to take off now. I hope we can continue later.

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Sun 04/12/09 03:11 PM
A major misunderstanding of investment is that it is a LEGAL gamble. If you go uninformed you will loose. No matter what if you do not know what you are investing in or can read trends you are asking to get screwed. look at all the money market accounts going down in their own way...

They are getting caught in the Domino effect that is going to be felt soon. Just watch how bad Commercial foreclosures are going to be! I got word from professionals in the industry who's judgments I trust a lot say it is going to make what happened in the residential market look weak in comparison.

Even businesses are gambles in a lot of respects but they are a lot more metered of a risk.

When you prop everything up on credit then you get the mess you have now because credit only complicates the problems we face by creating more economic drain on already strained economic resources.

Rome is on fire. Where is Nero?

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/12/09 03:38 PM

While I support the principle of homesteading, I recognize that it shouldn't be done on someone else's private property.

Don't we have miles and miles of government owned land?


drinker

willing2's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:00 PM


While I support the principle of homesteading, I recognize that it shouldn't be done on someone else's private property.

Don't we have miles and miles of government owned land?


drinker

There's no such thing as homesteading any longer. All lands that don't belong to the Gov or Indian Res., are privately owned.

Th only public lands left are Parks, roads and sidewalks.
If they are under freeways, they can be run off by the Cit, County or State.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:02 PM
i don't have an opinion yet on public property but no one should set up camp on private property without the owners permission. i know if i had land and someone decided to be there without even asking me....i don't think so

willing2's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:10 PM

i don't have an opinion yet on public property but no one should set up camp on private property without the owners permission. i know if i had land and someone decided to be there without even asking me....i don't think so

That's true. Even if they ask, the land owner is liable for any destruction, trash removal, sanitation, accidents, etc.
My thing is, in big cities, they concern themselves on keeping up appearances. Why would they want their city littered with tents and cardboard encampments.
Out of site, out of mind.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:16 PM
there aren't public places for them?

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:19 PM

there aren't public places for them?

The last placed I worked, many of the chose to live in tents even out in the cold.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:20 PM
sorry...i meant a place to put tents in public places. like a designated area

sorry i'm sleepy lol

willing2's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:20 PM

there aren't public places for them?

Any recommendations on what could be done with them or where they might be placed?

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/12/09 04:21 PM
willing...sorry i'm sleepy lol

why can't they use a certain public piece of land that is designated

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