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Topic: So it has been a few hundred days now
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Mon 04/27/09 07:35 AM
and people are starting to wonder if Obama is doing a good job.

I guess it is a matter of opinion depending on what stance you have.

Yet who on these threads honestly thinks Mccain would have done a better job in the long run?

I mention Mccain for he somehow made it as the last contender against Obama.

Who believes that Hillary would have been the better bet?

Who believes that perhaps a different candidate at the time would have been a better bet?

Share your educated thoughts and explain your reasons.

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Mon 04/27/09 07:38 AM
well it has been over a hundred days actuallylaugh drinker and not a few hundred days yetdrinker

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Mon 04/27/09 08:05 AM
His track record frankly, sucks.
He's;
screwed,
mocked,
laughed at,
embarrassed,
oppressed,
stripping the Rights of and
lied to us.
The only thing he hasn't accomplished is killing us off.
I have a feeling their looking at those options also.

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Mon 04/27/09 08:06 AM

His track record frankly, sucks.
He's;
screwed,
mocked,
laughed at,
embarrassed,
oppressed,
stripping the Rights of and
lied to us.
The only thing he hasn't accomplished is killing us off.
I have a feeling their looking at those options also.



ouch!

so who do you think would have been the lesser of evil or a better bet in the end running this country?

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Mon 04/27/09 08:17 AM


His track record frankly, sucks.
He's;
screwed,
mocked,
laughed at,
embarrassed,
oppressed,
stripping the Rights of and
lied to us.
The only thing he hasn't accomplished is killing us off.
I have a feeling their looking at those options also.



ouch!

so who do you think would have been the lesser of evil or a better bet in the end running this country?

Ron Paul or Ralph Nader.
Paul, first option

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Mon 04/27/09 08:19 AM
We shall see in 2012 I figure who will get it.

It would be nice to see a independent win. It would really change the dynamics of politics perhaps.

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Mon 04/27/09 08:41 AM

We shall see in 2012 I figure who will get it.

It would be nice to see a independent win. It would really change the dynamics of politics perhaps.

2012 may be too late. The strides BHO is able to take, we might be looking at who's to be the next Prime Minister.

How about you? What's your view, Sir?

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Mon 04/27/09 10:48 AM


Ron Paul or Ralph Nader.
Paul, first option


I thought you're republican.

Speaking of republicans, why did Ron Paul got stuck on republicans? He has nothing to do with fascism they try to build, and yet, he is sticking to it.

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Mon 04/27/09 10:53 AM



Ron Paul or Ralph Nader.
Paul, first option


I thought you're republican.

Speaking of republicans, why did Ron Paul got stuck on republicans? He has nothing to do with fascism they try to build, and yet, he is sticking to it.


It's just how he started. He's always been a fiscal conservative, and a constitutionalist. This is what the republican party was founded on. The rest of the party merely ventured away from it's political ideals.

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Mon 04/27/09 11:02 AM
not a few hundred days

but a a hundred days plus a few

just a point

and would

mccain done any better

does not really matter

just as it does not really matter

if gore would have done a better job

it is what it is not what it may have been if

after all obama got away with

telling american citizens to shut up so those he does not represent can make there thoughts known (that is a big accomplishment for sure)

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Mon 04/27/09 11:05 AM
nader give me a break

you can probably give him credit for the seat belt law

after all that is how he got big

was mandatory auto safety regulation

so why stop there regulate everyone freedoms to a mandatory safety stance

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Mon 04/27/09 11:10 AM


It's just how he started. He's always been a fiscal conservative, and a constitutionalist. This is what the republican party was founded on. The rest of the party merely ventured away from it's political ideals.


Very true. Except, will the mountain walk to Mohamed, or should Mohamed walk to a mountain?

Will Ron Paul change the perverted party back to normal, or will he waste his own chances by sticking to perverts?

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Mon 04/27/09 11:26 AM



It's just how he started. He's always been a fiscal conservative, and a constitutionalist. This is what the republican party was founded on. The rest of the party merely ventured away from it's political ideals.


Very true. Except, will the mountain walk to Mohamed, or should Mohamed walk to a mountain?

Will Ron Paul change the perverted party back to normal, or will he waste his own chances by sticking to perverts?


Indeed..

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Mon 04/27/09 11:33 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Mon 04/27/09 11:48 AM
Ron Paul in my opinion has got to be the most honest, least corrupt person in congress.

His economic views are unmatchable as he actually studied monetary theory, the concept of inflation, etc.

All his policies place responsibility in the hands of the people, and regulate the government.

He wanted to end all our wars, bring everyone home, get rid of DHS, and the FED. This would eliminate two thirds of our spending budget, along with Federal income tax. Soon he would push to pay off our national debt and become independent again.

Whether he was successful or not, like with JFK, people would be much more informed as Dr. Paul has spent most of his career exposing corruption. He would at least point out where are problems are.


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Mon 04/27/09 11:35 AM
from what I hav researched about Ron Paul...I like him so far. but like my bro in law says about elections/oliticians...you vote for the snake with th least venom

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Mon 04/27/09 12:14 PM
Edited by DaveyB on Mon 04/27/09 12:15 PM
Ron Paul certainly has some good policies and such on his side. Can't say I agree on everything of course. Problem is he's so open about his opinions that he's bound to be seen as offensive to some large groups on both sides of the table. Plus as a libertarian there are a few issues on which would kill him in key states. Like him or not, until we get rid of the electoral college system for picking our president there's no way for him to get elected.


http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

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Mon 04/27/09 01:39 PM
Edited by smiless on Mon 04/27/09 01:41 PM


We shall see in 2012 I figure who will get it.

It would be nice to see a independent win. It would really change the dynamics of politics perhaps.

2012 may be too late. The strides BHO is able to take, we might be looking at who's to be the next Prime Minister.

How about you? What's your view, Sir?


Oh I am not able to vote in this country, so it matters not to me. I am sure America will still be around long after I pass away. How the government will work depends on the people and their interest in it.

Ron Paul did get very popular quickly over the internet. At one time it is all I heard everywhere I walked in Miami. Then of course both Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are also amazing people who have many great idealogies as of other politicians.

The ability to collaborate good minds for the sake of the welfare of the people is actually where solutions are solved. Not an individual mind alone in my opinion.

In the end as a foreigner I pretty much just see a few years Republican then a few years Democratic then a few years Republican again and then back to Democrats.

Perhaps this is how the country stays together??

If a independent will ever sit with Congress as a President in my lifetime would be interesting.

You see in Germany I vote for the Green Party. I have even participated in some of the issues set forth in parliamant watching the strategy used to create resolutions on some of the topics. At the end many issues have been resolved as many still remain a issue for the government to solve. It is a neverending story of debate that could leave you without sleep and sanity.

Of course Germany has CDU/CSU, FDP, Green Party, SPD, and about 40 more different parties that each are heard in politics, yet the first three I mention usually have the biggest number of seats in parliamant.

So it is a different idealogy of minds discussing such topics that America is familiar with, but it is also a different set of minds in Europe who come up with different results also.

There is no easy solution with so many different minds at work. I do hope that regardless of the different perspectives on issues that there will be some compromise that works for the people of this country and not against them.


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Mon 04/27/09 01:48 PM
Edited by smiless on Mon 04/27/09 01:51 PM
One thing I do realize often is that a politician has good intentions in his or her first years in office, but afterwords their minds seem to change and show little care on topics anymore. It seems they get this comfortable notion of relaxing as if they have done enough for the public or other issues on hand.

Some even get over their head and feel they are of somekind of power which allows them to be immune to many of the laws civilians have to obide to.

This mindset hits many people who come to power and can be dangerous.

It leads one to think how many house of represenatives or senators have such a mindset each day and how many actually see it that they are serving the people and only through the people did they get the honor of serving in congress?

So yes so much factors one has to consider with those who work for the government.

The other thing that can be disturbing is one doesn't know exactly at all times what these politicians are discussing with each other. What do they discuss with lobbyists and how much truth do they speak on press conferences when the public watches.

Trust is a big word these days. Do you have it?

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Mon 04/27/09 03:25 PM

Ron Paul in my opinion has got to be the most honest, least corrupt person in congress.

His economic views are unmatchable as he actually studied monetary theory, the concept of inflation, etc.

All his policies place responsibility in the hands of the people, and regulate the government.

He wanted to end all our wars, bring everyone home, get rid of DHS, and the FED. This would eliminate two thirds of our spending budget, along with Federal income tax. Soon he would push to pay off our national debt and become independent again.

Whether he was successful or not, like with JFK, people would be much more informed as Dr. Paul has spent most of his career exposing corruption. He would at least point out where are problems are.




Ron Paul is cool! Here are some facts about Ron Paul:


1. Ron Paul doesn't go the gym. He stays fit by exercising his civil rights.
2. Ron Paul delivers babies without his hands. He simply reads them the Bill of Rights and they crawl out in anticipation of freedom.
3. Ron Paul doesn't cut taxes. He kills them with his bare hands.
4. Jesus wears a wrist band that says "What Would Ron Paul Do?"
5. When Ron Paul takes a shower, he doesn't get wet...the water gets Ron Paul.
6. Ron Paul could lead a horse to water AND convince it to drink, but he doesn't believe the government has the right to so he refuses.
7. Ron Paul's midi-chlorian level is off the chart.
8. When Chuck Norris gets scared, he goes to Ron Paul.
9. Studies by the World Health Organization show that Ron Paul is the leading cause of freedom among men.
10. Ron Paul makes the U.S. dollar want to be a better currency.

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Mon 04/27/09 04:10 PM
before Chuck Norris goes to sleep he checks under his bed for Ron Paul

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