Topic: Condi Rice pulls a "Nixon"!
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 04/30/09 05:01 PM
Condi Rice pulls a "Nixon"! "When the President does it, that means it's not illegal."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/condi-rice-pulls-a-nixon_b_193379.html

OMG! She then too states that she didn't authorize torture....er uh...waterboarding, she "just passed on the authorization to those concerned".... after signing it of course!

How stupid do they think we are? Why didn't the MSM pick this piece up for broadcast instead of the BS they've been feeding the public?

Comments?

willing2's photo
Thu 04/30/09 05:50 PM
On April 9, 2008, ABCNews reported that then National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice chaired meetings in 2002 at which Vice President **** Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Attorney General John Ashcroft, and CIA Director George Tenet discussed with great specificity what kinds of aggressive interrogation techniques, including waterboarding, should be used against the recently captured terrorist Abu Zubaydah. They considered him to be the No. 3 person in al Qaeda. (He was, in fact, a mentally ill minor functionary with no useful information but lots of delusions.) This report puts the promotion of torture squarely in the White House early on and across the board at the very highest levels of the Administration. In a second ABC story on April 11, 2008, Bush confirmed that he knew and approved of these torture discussions

adj4u's photo
Thu 04/30/09 06:01 PM
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/hrj/iss19/suleman.shtml#Heading24


Detainee Treatment Act of 2005

C. Overriding Presidential Powers as Commander in Chief

One final Administration argument may make Sections 1002 and 1003 completely irrelevant: the assertion of the Commander in Chief power as a superseding power. President Bush issued a signing statement[32] along with the passage of the DTA, in which he stated, “The executive branch shall construe [the DTA] in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President to supervise the unitary executive branch and as Commander in Chief and consistent with the constitutional limitations on the judicial power . . . .”[33] The Administration argues that the Commander in Chief power grants the President complete discretion and authority over the conduct of war.[34] In other words, Congress lacks the authority under Article 1 of the Constitution to restrict the President in his exercise of authority to control wartime operations.[35] Since the President would be authorizing the detention and interrogation of detainees in pursuance of the war on terrorism, this position would render the DTA’s protections completely irrelevant. Moreover, the problem of enforcing the DTA against the Executive branch would complicate matters considerably, as discussed below.

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looks like condi is correct


Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 06:05 PM

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/hrj/iss19/suleman.shtml#Heading24


Detainee Treatment Act of 2005

C. Overriding Presidential Powers as Commander in Chief

One final Administration argument may make Sections 1002 and 1003 completely irrelevant: the assertion of the Commander in Chief power as a superseding power. President Bush issued a signing statement[32] along with the passage of the DTA, in which he stated, “The executive branch shall construe [the DTA] in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President to supervise the unitary executive branch and as Commander in Chief and consistent with the constitutional limitations on the judicial power . . . .”[33] The Administration argues that the Commander in Chief power grants the President complete discretion and authority over the conduct of war.[34] In other words, Congress lacks the authority under Article 1 of the Constitution to restrict the President in his exercise of authority to control wartime operations.[35] Since the President would be authorizing the detention and interrogation of detainees in pursuance of the war on terrorism, this position would render the DTA’s protections completely irrelevant. Moreover, the problem of enforcing the DTA against the Executive branch would complicate matters considerably, as discussed below.

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looks like condi is correct





You must have gotten that info straight from the Cheney handbook!laugh laugh

adj4u's photo
Thu 04/30/09 06:24 PM
SEC. 1005. PROCEDURES FOR STATUS REVIEW OF DETAINEES OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

(a) Submittal of Procedures for Status Review of Detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in Afghanistan and Iraq-

(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall submit to the Committee on Armed Services and the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate and the Committee on Armed Services and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives a report setting forth--

(A) the procedures of the Combatant Status Review Tribunals and the Administrative Review Boards established by direction of the Secretary of Defense that are in operation at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for determining the status of the detainees held at Guantanamo Bay or to provide an annual review to determine the need to continue to detain an alien who is a detainee; and

(B) the procedures in operation in Afghanistan and Iraq for a determination of the status of aliens detained in the custody or under the physical control of the Department of Defense in those countries.

(2) DESIGNATED CIVILIAN OFFICIAL- The procedures submitted to Congress pursuant to paragraph (1)(A) shall ensure that the official of the Department of Defense who is designated by the President or Secretary of Defense to be the final review authority within the Department of Defense with respect to decisions of any such tribunal or board (referred to as the 'Designated Civilian Official') shall be a civilian officer of the Department of Defense holding an office to which appointments are required by law to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.

(3) CONSIDERATION OF NEW EVIDENCE- The procedures submitted under paragraph (1)(A) shall provide for periodic review of any new evidence that may become available relating to the enemy combatant status of a detainee.


http://www.pegc.us/detainee_act_2005.html
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looks to me that harvard got it right

after all prez is in charge of military and needs only to submit a report to congress