Topic: Your Blog is a Weapon?
yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:01 PM
trust me....if anyone is bugging him he vents to me so I know what's going on. he also knows he better be where he says he is because I might drive by to check. but he's a great kid and I trust him. but yes...too many parents these days think everyone else should raise their kids. it's easy to block people on sites and report them.

catwoman96's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:11 PM
ima online stalker of my daughter and her friends. I use my sapce frrequently and i get her moods and any latest info from her and her friends.

I actually have incorporated my space into my parenting. Shes reached these teenage secretive years..and well I find it helpful. and plus she needs cautioned about not putting her cell number on a page and to only use a first name on a page.

These site could be very detrimental even WITH parental supervision.

I am not amazed by the amount of online perverts looking for fresh meat.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:16 PM
When I took on raising my kids I also started a new career that allowed me to be more available to my kids. I placed my kids above EVERYTHING! Times weren't easy, and my kids will tell you I can build a castle from a cardboard box, but they were my priority!

I quit drugs, partying all night, spent 20+ years alone until the last one had gone, (that was a bit extreme, but no time, little money and 6 kids is not a "chick magnet" ohwell laugh ) and I would do it again.

It's what a parent does, even more so a single parent.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:19 PM

ima online stalker of my daughter and her friends. I use my sapce frrequently and i get her moods and any latest info from her and her friends.

I actually have incorporated my space into my parenting. Shes reached these teenage secretive years..and well I find it helpful. and plus she needs cautioned about not putting her cell number on a page and to only use a first name on a page.

These site could be very detrimental even WITH parental supervision.

I am not amazed by the amount of online perverts looking for fresh meat.


That's the way of the world, it's not perfect. Many bad people do exist and bad things happen. You protect as much as you can, as best you can, and hope it is enough.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:21 PM
as parents....we need to teach our kids how to handle these things because it's not just online where it happens....it happens in real life as well. online is just easier to avoid

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:21 PM

When I took on raising my kids I also started a new career that allowed me to be more available to my kids. I placed my kids above EVERYTHING! Times weren't easy, and my kids will tell you I can build a castle from a cardboard box, but they were my priority!

I quit drugs, partying all night, spent 20+ years alone until the last one had gone, (that was a bit extreme, but no time, little money and 6 kids is not a "chick magnet" ohwell laugh ) and I would do it again.

It's what a parent does, even more so a single parent.


That's normal to me. My child is my priority to me too.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/06/09 07:32 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 05/06/09 07:34 PM


When I took on raising my kids I also started a new career that allowed me to be more available to my kids. I placed my kids above EVERYTHING! Times weren't easy, and my kids will tell you I can build a castle from a cardboard box, but they were my priority!

I quit drugs, partying all night, spent 20+ years alone until the last one had gone, (that was a bit extreme, but no time, little money and 6 kids is not a "chick magnet" ohwell laugh ) and I would do it again.

It's what a parent does, even more so a single parent.


That's normal to me. My child is my priority to me too.


It just shows that a "blanket" law is not what's needed here. It's parental responsibility plain and simple. Too much government, too many laws, can have a negative effect on the many. It is usually only a very few who make people think they are nessessary, and a law isn't going to stop them.

It is said that "locks only keep out the innocent.".

Lynann's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:04 PM
I am a strong supporter of parental and personal responsibility.

I won't argue those things should come first.

Still...stop please.

Did you, no matter what your relationship with your parents was, have secrets from your parents? Sometimes secrets that had nothing to do with what you did yourself but hurtful secrets?

Teens are killing themselves because they have great supportive relationships with their parents?

I can see parents now thinking...that happens somewhere else...not in my house...until it happens.

I must add I think it's funny that some here who are saying this legislation isn't needed are the same people who think that offering protections to their children in the form of sex education or condoms is wrong too.

Line em up like ducks...

For Christ sake...these are your children...protect them...clean up the moral mess afterward. (Some argument could be applied here about parents first) Look again...parents aren't there on a massive scale...children are being molested, pushed into heinous acts and even dying. Even the children of parents who are "there" are victims.

You also want pedophiles hung...I do not disagree...but guess how children are got there? Coerced, manipulated, threatened...

If this charge is one more way to make potential predators to think twice or go to jail for longer...well then...let's think about it.

With this language?

Maybe not but certainly with some type of charge.


Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:06 PM

Your Blog is a Weapon? House Bill suggests Hurting Feelings illegal

Journal-Post
Wednesday, May 6, 2009

Law prof Eugene Volokh blogs about a U.S. House of Representatives bill proposed by Rep. Linda T. Sanchez and 14 others that could make it a federal felony to use your blog, social media like MySpace and Facebook, or any other web media “To Cause Substantial Emotional Distress Through “Severe, Repeated, and Hostile” Speech.” Oh lordy, there goes 4chan.

Here’s the relevant text:
Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both….

["Communication"] means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; …

["Electronic means"] means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.

Sources: BoingBoing.net, Volokh.com

Here’s the bill in its full context.

——————————————————————-

Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act (Introduced in House)
HR 1966 IH

111th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 1966
To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to cyberbullying.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
April 2, 2009

Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California (for herself, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. YARMUTH, Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD, Mrs. CAPPS, Mr. BISHOP of New York, Mr. BRALEY of Iowa, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. HARE, Mr. HIGGINS, Mr. CLAY, Mr. SARBANES, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. COURTNEY, and Mr. KIRK) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL
To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to cyberbullying.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act’.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:
(1) Four out of five of United States children aged 2 to 17 live in a home where either they or their parents access the Internet.
(2) Youth who create Internet content and use social networking sites are more likely to be targets of cyberbullying.
(3) Electronic communications provide anonymity to the perpetrator and the potential for widespread public distribution, potentially making them severely dangerous and cruel to youth.
(4) Online victimizations are associated with emotional distress and other psychological problems, including depression.
(5) Cyberbullying can cause psychological harm, including depression; negatively impact academic performance, safety, and the well-being of children in school; force children to change schools; and in some cases lead to extreme violent behavior, including murder and suicide.
(6) Sixty percent of mental health professionals who responded to the Survey of Internet Mental Health Issues report having treated at least one patient with a problematic Internet experience in the previous five years; 54 percent of these clients were 18 years of age or younger.

SEC. 3. CYBERBULLYING.


(a) In General- Chapter 41 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
Sec. 881. Cyberbullying

(a) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
(b) As used in this section–
(1) the term ‘communication’ means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; and
(2) the term `electronic means’ means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.’.
(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 41 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new item:
881. Cyberbullying.’.




Isnt this about the woman who caused the little girl to kill her self?

catwoman96's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:11 PM

I am a strong supporter of parental and personal responsibility.

I won't argue those things should come first.

Still...stop please.

Did you, no matter what your relationship with your parents was, have secrets from your parents? Sometimes secrets that had nothing to do with what you did yourself but hurtful secrets?

Teens are killing themselves because they have great supportive relationships with their parents?

I can see parents now thinking...that happens somewhere else...not in my house...until it happens.

I must add I think it's funny that some here who are saying this legislation isn't needed are the same people who think that offering protections to their children in the form of sex education or condoms is wrong too.

Line em up like ducks...

For Christ sake...these are your children...protect them...clean up the moral mess afterward. (Some argument could be applied here about parents first) Look again...parents aren't there on a massive scale...children are being molested, pushed into heinous acts and even dying. Even the children of parents who are "there" are victims.

You also want pedophiles hung...I do not disagree...but guess how children are got there? Coerced, manipulated, threatened...

If this charge is one more way to make potential predators to think twice or go to jail for longer...well then...let's think about it.

With this language?

Maybe not but certainly with some type of charge.




I dont usually like your posts. but that one is very on target.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:13 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 05/06/09 08:15 PM
Of course,
I have no qualms about people spreading BS, and uninformed rumors taken off blog-sites, being held responsible for their actions.
They have a responsibility to check the facts before relaying the falsehoods in my opinion.
Many do it even when they know its a lie. They do it on purpose with no concern for truth. There only intent is to spread disinformation.
In real life away from the internet it's called slander. So why shouldn't it be on the internet?

warmachine's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:21 PM
people do face legal recourse for their actions on the net, just go look into the amount of cease and desist letters Diebold has sent out since 2000.

no photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:23 PM
appears to be a fine line beween the 1st Amendment and hate speech

warmachine's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:25 PM
1st amendment protects even hate speech. It's there to protect unpopular speech from the popular.

Like the group seeking to make it illegal to question Global warming.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:27 PM
Fanta....there are laws for harassment, slander and stalking on the internet.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:34 PM
:smile: I got cyberharrasesed by a crazy chick that I met on here.:smile: After that, I try to avoid revealing too much personal information about myself in the forums or on my profile.:smile:

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:35 PM


Your Blog is a Weapon? House Bill suggests Hurting Feelings illegal

Journal-Post
Wednesday, May 6, 2009

Law prof Eugene Volokh blogs about a U.S. House of Representatives bill proposed by Rep. Linda T. Sanchez and 14 others that could make it a federal felony to use your blog, social media like MySpace and Facebook, or any other web media “To Cause Substantial Emotional Distress Through “Severe, Repeated, and Hostile” Speech.” Oh lordy, there goes 4chan.

Here’s the relevant text:
Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both….

["Communication"] means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; …

["Electronic means"] means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.

Sources: BoingBoing.net, Volokh.com

Here’s the bill in its full context.

——————————————————————-

Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act (Introduced in House)
HR 1966 IH

111th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 1966
To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to cyberbullying.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
April 2, 2009

Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California (for herself, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. YARMUTH, Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD, Mrs. CAPPS, Mr. BISHOP of New York, Mr. BRALEY of Iowa, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. HARE, Mr. HIGGINS, Mr. CLAY, Mr. SARBANES, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. COURTNEY, and Mr. KIRK) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL
To amend title 18, United States Code, with respect to cyberbullying.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act’.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:
(1) Four out of five of United States children aged 2 to 17 live in a home where either they or their parents access the Internet.
(2) Youth who create Internet content and use social networking sites are more likely to be targets of cyberbullying.
(3) Electronic communications provide anonymity to the perpetrator and the potential for widespread public distribution, potentially making them severely dangerous and cruel to youth.
(4) Online victimizations are associated with emotional distress and other psychological problems, including depression.
(5) Cyberbullying can cause psychological harm, including depression; negatively impact academic performance, safety, and the well-being of children in school; force children to change schools; and in some cases lead to extreme violent behavior, including murder and suicide.
(6) Sixty percent of mental health professionals who responded to the Survey of Internet Mental Health Issues report having treated at least one patient with a problematic Internet experience in the previous five years; 54 percent of these clients were 18 years of age or younger.

SEC. 3. CYBERBULLYING.


(a) In General- Chapter 41 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
Sec. 881. Cyberbullying

(a) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
(b) As used in this section–
(1) the term ‘communication’ means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user’s choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; and
(2) the term `electronic means’ means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.’.
(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 41 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new item:
881. Cyberbullying.’.




Isnt this about the woman who caused the little girl to kill her self?


Yes, I posted this about it. She's from St. Louis and she was 13 years old when she killed herself. I think she was almost 14.


Wiki:

"Her suicide was attributed to cyber-bullying through the social networking website MySpace. The account through which the bullying took place purportedly belonged to a 16-year-old male named "Josh Evans." However, Lori Drew, the mother of a former friend of Meier, later admitted creating the MySpace account with her daughter and Ashley Grills, Lori Drew's 18 year old employee. Several people contributed to running the faked account, including Drew.

Witnesses testified that the women intended to use Meier’s e-mails with "Josh" to get information about her and later humiliate her, in retribution for her allegedly spreading gossip about Drew's daughter.

A federal grand jury indicted Lori Drew on May 15, 2008, on three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress, and one count of criminal conspiracy. Drew was found guilty on three lesser charges (reduced from felonies to misdemeanors by the jury) on November 26, 2008. The jury was deadlocked on the fourth felony charge of criminal conspiracy.


no photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:35 PM

:smile: I got cyberharrasesed by a crazy chick that I met on here.:smile: After that, I try to avoid revealing too much personal information about myself in the forums or on my profile.:smile:


I lie about mine just to make it harder

catwoman96's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:36 PM

:smile: I got cyberharrasesed by a crazy chick that I met on here.:smile: After that, I try to avoid revealing too much personal information about myself in the forums or on my profile.:smile:



errrrrrrrrr....you mean your profile now contains misleading info?? lol. I would never ever do such a thinglaugh laugh laugh laugh

Winx's photo
Wed 05/06/09 08:36 PM



When I took on raising my kids I also started a new career that allowed me to be more available to my kids. I placed my kids above EVERYTHING! Times weren't easy, and my kids will tell you I can build a castle from a cardboard box, but they were my priority!

I quit drugs, partying all night, spent 20+ years alone until the last one had gone, (that was a bit extreme, but no time, little money and 6 kids is not a "chick magnet" ohwell laugh ) and I would do it again.

It's what a parent does, even more so a single parent.


That's normal to me. My child is my priority to me too.


It just shows that a "blanket" law is not what's needed here. It's parental responsibility plain and simple. Too much government, too many laws, can have a negative effect on the many. It is usually only a very few who make people think they are nessessary, and a law isn't going to stop them.

It is said that "locks only keep out the innocent.".


Parents can only do so much.