Topic: Rove
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Fri 05/15/09 08:11 AM
Prosecutor questions Rove on fired US attorneys


WASHINGTON – Former White House aide Karl Rove faced questions Friday from a special prosecutor weighing whether to bring criminal charges against Bush administration officials for the politically charged firing of U.S. attorneys.

Rove met with prosecutor Nora Dannehy at the office of his lawyer, Robert Luskin. Rove did not speak to reporters as he entered the downtown Washington law office and neither did investigators who arrived about a half hour later.

Rove has said he will cooperate with the investigation, which is being conducted to determine whether Bush administration officials or congressional Republicans should face criminal charges in the dismissal of nine U.S. attorneys in 2006.

Rove and other Republican officials refused to be interviewed in an earlier Justice Department inquiry, which concluded that despite Bush administration denials, political considerations played a part in the firings of as many as four prosecutors.

U.S. attorneys are political appointees who serve at the pleasure of the president, but cannot be fired for improper reasons. Bush administration officials at first claimed the attorneys were let go because of poor performance.

The internal Justice Department investigation recommended a criminal inquiry, saying the lack of cooperation by Rove and other senior administration officials left gaps in their findings that should be investigated further. Then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey responded by naming Dannehy, the acting U.S. attorney in Connecticut, as special prosecutor in September.

Rove and former White House counsel Harriet Miers also have agreed to testify before the House Judiciary Committee under oath about the firings in closed depositions. As president, Bush had fought attempts to force them to testify.

In July, U.S. District Judge John Bates rejected Bush's contention that senior White House advisers were immune from the committee's subpoenas, siding with Congress' power to investigate the executive branch. The Bush administration had appealed the decision. The agreement for Rove and Miers to testify ended the lawsuit.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090515/ap_on_go_ot/us_fired_prosecutors
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Is there anywhere the Bush Administration didnt break the laws or violate the Constitution?

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Fri 05/15/09 08:15 AM
Edited by crickstergo on Fri 05/15/09 08:37 AM
Evidently, Obama doesn't believe Bush did.

Cause, he is tiptoeing around the issue.


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Fri 05/15/09 09:30 AM
By keeping Gates on as Secretary of Defense, Obama endorsed many of Bush's policies. The way he is dancing around the release of the torture photos, military tribunals, and prosecutions proves it.

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Fri 05/15/09 11:21 AM

Evidently, Obama doesn't believe Bush did.

Cause, he is tiptoeing around the issue.




Eh!
He's just trying to not get assassinated by the CIA!

As in the article above shows, it's out of his hands anyway!

The investigations are happening.

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Fri 05/15/09 11:57 AM
The overall political corruption in this country is far and wide people... The Federal Reserve, banks, congress, the stock market... it seems that no one is being held accountable.

Except for Martha Stewart! noway Obstruction of justice???????

The reason?

It would require information to be exposed that would allow those with inference capabilities to connect the dots which would connect the individuals who knew ahead of time what it was/is that they are attempting to keep hidden from the public eye.

Every individual who is aware of what is hidden behind the political blankets is guilty of that!

When a nation's people are being exposed to things that are necessarily expected without a government, or worse yet, if those expositions are due to the existence of the government itself, then the question arises...

What do we need this government for, to fix the mess that they themselves created for us... the American people?

A government which costs more than it is worth, is one we can do without... necessarily so. Would 9/11 even have happened without our government's interference with other nation's religious problems? Why is it that we choose to listen to those who actually created the problems to begin with but lay the blame the source of the issues elsewhere?

Our country is not the problem... our dishonest politicians are.

Invest thought, resources, and effort into America itself... for the benefit of Americans.

The self sufficiency of this country is what made America! Why constuct a system which necessarily depends upon other countries that actively employ a political philosophy inherently against all that America stands for? Why help another country to pursue a position of financial dominance over ourselves, especially those which would benefit from this country's failure and/or collapse through the very means of helping?

We cannot continue to treat our own people as insignificant factors. We cannot afford to bolster the rest of the world and their economies while ours has the supports themselves removed in order to do this.

Are our politicians that ****ing stupid?

Americans will invest in America.

Anyone else is un-American.

Do Americans run this country?

huh


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Fri 05/15/09 04:54 PM
Rove should have been in jail a long time ago.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/15/09 08:04 PM
I heard that!

Well actually,
I read that.
Either, either
I agree!drinker

creativesoul's photo
Fri 05/15/09 10:23 PM
What?

Nobuddy liked my ranting?

laugh

blushing

Fanta46's photo
Sat 05/16/09 12:37 PM

What?

Nobuddy liked my ranting?

laugh

blushing


It was a pretty creative rant!drinker

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Sat 05/16/09 12:41 PM
Bush fired 8 US Attorneys and Clinton fired 93

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Sat 05/16/09 12:50 PM
Yeah, but Clinton got laid!

laugh

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Sat 05/16/09 12:57 PM

Bush fired 8 US Attorneys and Clinton fired 93


Its not the firings so much as the motives!

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Sat 05/16/09 01:00 PM
By tradition, U.S. Attorneys are replaced only at the start of a new White House administration. U.S. Attorneys hold a "political" office, and therefore they are considered to "serve at the pleasure of the President." At the beginning of a new presidential administration, it is traditional for all 93 U.S. Attorneys to submit a letter of resignation. When a new President is from a different political party, almost all of the resignations will be eventually accepted. The attorneys are then replaced by new political appointees, typically from the new President's party

A Department of Justice list noted that "in 1981, Reagan's first year in office, 71 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys. In 1993, Clinton's first year, 80 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys." Similarly, a Senate study noted that "Reagan replaced 89 of the 93 U.S. attorneys in his first two years in office. President Clinton had 89 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years, and President Bush had 88 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years.

In contrast to the 2006 dismissals, Presidents rarely dismiss U.S. attorneys they appoint.
-wiki







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Sat 05/16/09 01:48 PM

davidben1's photo
Sat 05/16/09 03:39 PM

The overall political corruption in this country is far and wide people... The Federal Reserve, banks, congress, the stock market... it seems that no one is being held accountable.

Except for Martha Stewart! noway Obstruction of justice???????

The reason?

It would require information to be exposed that would allow those with inference capabilities to connect the dots which would connect the individuals who knew ahead of time what it was/is that they are attempting to keep hidden from the public eye.

Every individual who is aware of what is hidden behind the political blankets is guilty of that!

When a nation's people are being exposed to things that are necessarily expected without a government, or worse yet, if those expositions are due to the existence of the government itself, then the question arises...

What do we need this government for, to fix the mess that they themselves created for us... the American people?

A government which costs more than it is worth, is one we can do without... necessarily so. Would 9/11 even have happened without our government's interference with other nation's religious problems? Why is it that we choose to listen to those who actually created the problems to begin with but lay the blame the source of the issues elsewhere?

Our country is not the problem... our dishonest politicians are.

Invest thought, resources, and effort into America itself... for the benefit of Americans.

The self sufficiency of this country is what made America! Why constuct a system which necessarily depends upon other countries that actively employ a political philosophy inherently against all that America stands for? Why help another country to pursue a position of financial dominance over ourselves, especially those which would benefit from this country's failure and/or collapse through the very means of helping?

We cannot continue to treat our own people as insignificant factors. We cannot afford to bolster the rest of the world and their economies while ours has the supports themselves removed in order to do this.

Are our politicians that ****ing stupid?

Americans will invest in America.

Anyone else is un-American.

Do Americans run this country?

huh




wise insight indeed...

it is more sad that none is stupid, as such would allow for easy exposure of injustice and hiding motive's, the revealing of lips that speak kind saying's, but speaking such only for the sake of power maintenance and advancement, as when the most intelligent and cunning wit available in the land is employed, within any power system, there are tenacles of power and clout able to collectively construct a mirage for appearance sake, the people's as lulled to sleep, each sect given tidbit's of group desire to suckle upon only to pacify, each group thinking itself is winning, allowing power to massage the people and win for itself the public opinion, which is greater power over all humanity and freedom and love and life, suppressing all goodness which is only equality, all along power maintaining the illusion that the people's care and well being is top priority, when each step, each breath, is a construction of power to reduce any resistance to power, the cream of society riding the wave of oceans of power and privilege, the agenda of power constantly to only allow what is aligned with it's common goal to advance, to create a powerful magic carpet for power to ride upon, collective power with it's eye on the prize of one centralized global power and arm of law, power player's and power broker's being at the helm of the great trojan horse, dressed in humanitarian costume's, but only employing any and all that qualify and meet the agenda, all that operate with the same heart, the same motive, the same agenda, wealth and power first, people second, people's quantified into a value and measure, either for or against "power", and what is against, is ultimately deemed of no human value whatsoever.

"America" is a mirage, that hide discreet ulterior motive's and aganda's, which provide a cover for power and greed and unhumanity, hiding unscupulous hearts from unsuspecting and naive hearts, for "America" deserve nor warrant any pledge of allegiance, nor any salute to some flag, or any lolyalty to some system or oval building, as such is unhumanitarian in it's very inception, communistic in it's end result, but rather the PEOPLE, deserve the only salute, the only allegiance, the only loyalty, as all that is good, and pure, and of most value.

no ultimate good is ever able to be propogated, without unwavering sight of all things human, as equal in value, going FAR BEYOND ANY SINGLE OR GROUP AGENDA VALUE.

if there was any flag ever constructed, worthy of salutations, it was missing one key ingredient, inscribed boldly upon it, ALL PEOPLE'S ARE OF EQUAL VALUE.

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Sat 05/16/09 08:21 PM

By tradition, U.S. Attorneys are replaced only at the start of a new White House administration. U.S. Attorneys hold a "political" office, and therefore they are considered to "serve at the pleasure of the President." At the beginning of a new presidential administration, it is traditional for all 93 U.S. Attorneys to submit a letter of resignation. When a new President is from a different political party, almost all of the resignations will be eventually accepted. The attorneys are then replaced by new political appointees, typically from the new President's party

A Department of Justice list noted that "in 1981, Reagan's first year in office, 71 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys. In 1993, Clinton's first year, 80 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys." Similarly, a Senate study noted that "Reagan replaced 89 of the 93 U.S. attorneys in his first two years in office. President Clinton had 89 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years, and President Bush had 88 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years.

In contrast to the 2006 dismissals, Presidents rarely dismiss U.S. attorneys they appoint.
-wiki









They werent done like these were though!


A Justice Department inquiry that wrapped up in late 2008 concluded that political considerations played a role in the firings of as many as four of the U.S. attorneys. Nine U.S. attorneys in all were fired in 2006.

U.S. attorneys are political appointees who serve at the pleasure of the president, but cannot be fired for improper reasons.

Rove's meeting with Dannehy was his first session with federal prosecutors since his five grand jury appearances in the Valerie Plame affair, a scandal that dogged the second term of Bush's presidency.

It resulted in the conviction of Vice President **** Cheney's chief of staff for perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI about the outing of the CIA identity of Plame, the wife of Bush administration war critic Joseph Wilson.

Rove also came under investigation when evidence emerged that he had participated in administration leaks of Plame's CIA identity to Newsweek magazine and to conservative columnist Robert Novak.

In the firing of U.S. attorneys, the Justice Department inquiry recommended a criminal investigation, saying the lack of cooperation by Rove and other senior administration officials left gaps in their findings that should be investigated further.