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Topic: UFC 99
Margarita7's photo
Thu 06/11/09 09:24 AM
Saturday June 13th

Velasquez Vs. Kongo
Franklin Vs. Silva

Velasquez + Silva

NE1 else????

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Thu 06/11/09 09:29 AM
nahhh UFC is no fun for me since they changed the rules


Margarita7's photo
Thu 06/11/09 10:20 AM
What rules killed it 4 U?

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Thu 06/11/09 10:51 AM
they put em in weight classes
made em wear gloves
put time limits on the rounds
no head butting
no elbows to the head
can no longer kick em to the head when they go down

kirk443's photo
Thu 06/11/09 11:48 AM

they put em in weight classes
made em wear gloves
put time limits on the rounds
no head butting
no elbows to the head
can no longer kick em to the head when they go down
i agree, back in the ancient roman times they not only used bare knuckles but speared them off with metal and steel. it was full blow no pads, anything goes back then

geektothetenth's photo
Thu 06/11/09 04:10 PM

they put em in weight classes
made em wear gloves
put time limits on the rounds
no head butting
no elbows to the head
can no longer kick em to the head when they go down


You can elbow to the head. I happen to like it a lot more now than before. And any of these fighters now would absolutely kill all those old school guys with or without the rule changes. It'd be like a pro boxer fighting some idiot in a bar. Look how fast Kimbo got KO'd by a UFC reject. Yes their wild swinging punches look violent but without good technique they're just arm punches.

I like Franklin over Silva even though Silva can end any fight with one punch. Franklin just uses angles better and throws better combos. And I think Velasquez will beat Kongo due to Kongo taking the fight on 3 weeks notice. Velasquez will probably win the fight but it's a lose-lose situation for him. If he wins, he beat a guy who only had 3 weeks to prepare, if he loses, he just lost to some guy who only had 3 weeks to prepare.

Velasquez may need to drop down to 205 eventually though. Once Lesnar entered the fray the heavyweight division changed, at 240 he'd give up 25 pounds to a guy like Lesnar, and Lesnar probably has to cut to get to 265, he probably enters the ring at about 280.

I want to see Franklin win, and then see Wanderlei fight Anderson..should be a lot of drama since Anderson Silva is helping Franklin prepare for the fight and Anderson and Wanderlei used to be training partners.

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Thu 06/11/09 04:26 PM

they put em in weight classes
made em wear gloves
put time limits on the rounds
no head butting
no elbows to the head
can no longer kick em to the head when they go down
I am quite happy with the changes.

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Thu 06/11/09 06:40 PM
If I wanted to see 2 dunk hillbillies fight with no rules and no technical skill, I'd attend nascar events.

Margarita7's photo
Thu 06/11/09 09:32 PM
hahahaha or you can also hit up ur local bar for some fighting w/out rules. (Also there is some bad ass underground street fighting w/out as many rules) BUT NE WAY>>>I was gonna say that UFC is trying for these guys to have carriers and if they are injured to the point where they can't fight then ticket sales would be uncomparable to now. UFC 98, 99, and 100 were sold out wayyyyyy ahead of the fights. Some fight tickets never even made it to the general public. Because the names these guys have built up for themselves make the public hungry. I like the rules as well not so fond of light weight fighting


Bout duration: [Top]
All non-championship bouts shall be three rounds.
All championship bouts shall be five rounds.
Rounds will be five minutes in duration.
A one-minute rest period will occur between each round.

Fouls: [Top]
1. Butting with the head.
2. Eye gouging of any kind.
3. Biting.
4. Hair pulling.
5. Fish hooking.
6. Groin attacks of any kind.
7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8. Small joint manipulation.
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
21. Spitting at an opponent.
22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
30. Interference by the corner.
31. Throwing in the towel during competition.

Ways To Win: [Top]
1. Submission by:
Physical tap out.
Verbal tap out.
2. Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
3. Decision via the scorecards, including:
Unanimous decision [all judges pick the same fighter as the winner].
Split decision [One judge picks one fighter, the other two judges pick the other fighter].
Majority decision [Two of three judges pick the same fighter as the winner, the final judge says the fight was a draw].
Draw, including:
Unanimous draw.
Majority draw.
Split draw.
4. Technical decision.
5. Technical draw.
6. Disqualification.
7. Forfeit.
8. No contest.


Referee may Restart the round: [Top]
If the fighters reach a stalemate and do not work to improve position or finish.

geektothetenth's photo
Thu 06/11/09 09:54 PM
The rules make it acceptable for state athletic commissions so they can have the events. That's what killed the old UFC, the state athletic commissions didn't want to grant them licenses.

Wait, number 17, you mean it's only illegal to kick the kidney with the heel? They're allowed to use rabbit punches? Cause you can rupture the kidney with a punch, or shin kick or kicking with the ball of the feet. It's illegal in boxing because of risk of internal bleeding and they're wearing much heavier gloves.

I'm amazed that mochida has been so good cause I took karate and most of the stuff they taught us to use in a real fight are all the things that are illegal in MMA.

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Thu 06/11/09 10:01 PM
Edited by msmyka on Thu 06/11/09 10:15 PM
Wow, usually I'm the one that starts this thread before a fight night. Good job girl.

If you don't mind I'll share with you the details I normally include in my thread.

MAIN CARD (Televised)
Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Ben Saunders vs. Mike Swick
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

PRELIMINARY CARD (Un-televised)
Justin Buchholz vs. Terry Etim
Dale Hartt vs. Denis Siver
Peter Sobotta vs. Paul Taylor
Roli Delgado vs. Paul Kelly
Denis Stojnic vs. Stefan Struve
Mustapha al Turk vs. Todd Duffee
John Hathaway vs. Rick Story

geektothetenth's photo
Thu 06/11/09 10:07 PM
Isn't heath herring replaced by Kongo?

msmyka's photo
Thu 06/11/09 10:14 PM
*My picks

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
I know Silva hasn't been at the top of his game and I do love Rich Franklin, but I'm still gonna have to give this one to Silva.
*Silva in the 2nd round by submission

Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
*Kongo by TKO or decision

Ben Saunders vs. Mike Swick
This is a decent match up, it's really anyones game.
*Swick by decision.

Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Davis drool by submission 3rd round.



msmyka's photo
Thu 06/11/09 10:16 PM

Isn't heath herring replaced by Kongo?


Yes, I edited it. I must have pulled an old list oops

Margarita7's photo
Fri 06/12/09 11:32 AM
I know all my female friends and I are very much into UFC. It sucks meeting all these guys who aren't. I read ur previous post yay us.

msmyka's photo
Fri 06/12/09 01:30 PM

Wow, usually I'm the one that starts this thread before a fight night. Good job girl.

If you don't mind I'll share with you the details I normally include in my thread.

MAIN CARD (Televised)
Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Ben Saunders vs. Mike Swick
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

PRELIMINARY CARD (Un-televised)
Justin Buchholz vs. Terry Etim
Dale Hartt vs. Denis Siver
Peter Sobotta vs. Paul Taylor
Roli Delgado vs. Paul Kelly
Denis Stojnic vs. Stefan Struve
Mustapha al Turk vs. Todd Duffee
John Hathaway vs. Rick Story


Wooops... this list was old or something, sorry for the misinformation.

Mirko Cro Cop vs Mustapha al Turk

I'm gonna give this one to Cro Cop
*Cro Cop TKO second round

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Fri 06/12/09 03:09 PM
Edited by Mayhem_J on Fri 06/12/09 03:10 PM

*My picks

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
I know Silva hasn't been at the top of his game and I do love Rich Franklin, but I'm still gonna have to give this one to Silva.
*Silva in the 2nd round by submission

Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
*Kongo by TKO or decision

Ben Saunders vs. Mike Swick
This is a decent match up, it's really anyones game.
*Swick by decision.

Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Davis drool by submission 3rd round.





Silva by submision? In 32 wins...Silva has only finished 3 with submssions.

I'm going to go against the grain on this one. Ima say Franklin by TKO with a counter punch. Franklin has great counter attacks and thats whats Silvas weakness is.

And I'm going to take Velasquez by decision. Kongo has no ground game whats so ever and Velasquez is a good wrestler. So I see Velasquez winning with some ground and pound.

And Im going to take Davis as well...except im going to go with knock...just for the hell of it.

And Cro Crop better win....hes getting an easy fight.

msmyka's photo
Fri 06/12/09 03:15 PM
Ok let me revise... Silva by TKO .... better?

Mayhem_J's photo
Fri 06/12/09 03:16 PM

Ok let me revise... Silva by TKO .... better?


Lol...I know you...and I know thats not what you meant. Just had to give you some shyt.

geektothetenth's photo
Sat 06/13/09 03:52 PM
Fights are over but I'll hold off on results cause some people might not have seen them.

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