Topic: How does one travel the straight and narrow.
AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 05/16/07 01:30 PM
When traveling a path in the wilderness upon which no person has walked
how do you travel the 'straight and narrow'.

If the brush and brambles are thick enough and the canyons deep with
steep sides one must alter the path or perish.

How would you mark your path that others may follow it if they wish?

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 05/16/07 02:37 PM
I don't follow, and I don't lead.

If anyone attempts to follow my path I hope they are imaginative because
there were many places where I have crossed hazardous ravines where no
bridges were available and spontaneous ingenuity was required.

My path is not for the faint of heart.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 05/16/07 02:42 PM
Aye abbra but the path less travelled is worth the dangers encountered
for the sights one gets to behold.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 05/16/07 03:28 PM
"I CAN'T EVEN THINK **STRAIGHT** "

Rainbows to you all :wink: flowerforyou

no photo
Wed 05/16/07 04:23 PM
I wish not to be followed so I would leave nothing behind to mark my
way, each path is an individuals path, they may intersect and cross at
times, some may cross many times, but it is a path traveled and forged
alone for me.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 05/16/07 04:45 PM
Well my family has a tradition. We mark our trails so that if something
happens to us a family member can find us and do what is necessary for
us.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 05/16/07 05:13 PM
This topic comes from the Isrealites going into the promice land. The
problem we have today is that we take that the law was done away. If
this is so which law? The churches pick and choose which law because of
this belief. The truth is the curse of the law is what was done away.
The curse of eternal death. Yahshua came that man may have life. Eternal
life. The path was given in this parable to remind rhe Isrealites who
took the law to all nations to see that Eternal life is available to all
people. If they would only believe and Obey. Even our marraige vows
which is misunderstood and even hated by women today came from the men
OBEYING Yahweh. The man is the head of the house as Yahshua is the HEAD
of Assembly of Yahweh. His people. Yahweh will bless them if they follow
the best they can with all thier heart his ways and laws which Yahshua
his son did as our example even laying down his life for us. Nothing
ever changed. The marraige vows as the assembly is the Bride of Yahshua
came out of the women was to obey her husband. As Yahshua Loved us to
give his life for us the man is soppose to give his life for his bride.
This is why OBEY is in the marraige vows. I know this may sound strange
for this topic but OBEYING Yahweh is at the core of the straight and
narrow path. Now the man was told to love his wife.
Eph 5:22-33

Wives , submit to your own husbands, as to Yahweh. 23 For the husband is
head of the wife, as also Messiah is head of the church; and He is the
Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to
Messiah, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives , just as Messiah also loved the church and
gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the
washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a
glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that
she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love
their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves
himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and
cherishes it, just as Yahweh does the church. 30 For we are members of
His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 "For this reason a man shall
leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall
become one flesh." 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning
Messiah and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in
particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that
she respects her husband.
NKJV
Now respect has been put in the NKJV to satify the people of our day.
Obey is not politically correct. Just as we have women ministers
ministering to men. The word says is not to be so.Then the one who came
from the man would be in athority over the very one they came from. It
would be like man being in athority of Yahshua. Nobody would dare say
that.
So why is all this important? When the Holy Spirit came we became the
Temple of Yahweh. Where his spirit dwells. He is perfect. We must strive
for perfection.
Matt 5:43-6:1

"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate
your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who
curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who
spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your
Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good,
and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those
who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do
the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more
than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you
shall be perfect , just as your Father in heaven is perfect .
NKJV

The straight and narrow path again is following Yahweh. The saints do
this.

Rev 14:9-13

9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,"If anyone
worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead
or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath
of Yahweh, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His
indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the
presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the
smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest
day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives
the mark of his name."

12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the
commandments of Yahweh and the faith of Yahshua.

13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, "Write:'Blessed are
the dead who die in Master from now on.'"

"Yes," says the Spirit,"that they may rest from their labors, and their
works follow them."
NKJV



Notice the saints of REV. KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF YAHWEH AND THE
FAITH OF YAHSHUA. What is the faith of Yahshua? That obedience through
faith as Abraham had brings eternal life and you will be raised from the
grave. Then the last verse thier always follow the saints THIER WORKS.
Faith without works is dead. Yet this is what we our taught. The law was
done away. This can not be true. This is where the path we are on comes
from. This is the promice he said we would have in the end of this age.

Heb 10:16-19

16 "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days,
says Yahweh: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I
will write them," 17 then He adds, "Their sins and their lawless deeds
I will remember no more." 18 Now where there is remission of these,
there is no longer an offering for sin.
NKJV
What a great promice. The disciples when the holy Spirit came
understood this and understood the straight and narrow way. For when you
enter a land the laws of that land you must abide by. When the
Isrealites were about to enter the promice land they posted the law and
the blessings and the curses for entering the land and either keeping
the law or not keeping it. just as we do today. In the verses below
where to mounts were as they passed through this it was a narrow valley.
And they were having to trust in Yahweh if they kept this law that
nothing was impossible. David even knew this as he was to battle the
giant.

Ps 23
Yahweh is my shepherd;
I shall not want.
2 He makes me to lie down in green pastures;
He leads me beside the still waters.
3 He restores my soul;
He leads me in the paths of righteousness
For His name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death ,
I will fear no evil;
For You are with me;
Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.

5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies;
You anoint my head with oil;
My cup runs over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
All the days of my life;
And I will dwell in the house of Yahweh
Forever.
NKJV
Nothing is impossible for Yahweh. For even a son was born of a
virgin.

Isa 9:2-8
Those who dwelt in the land of the SHADOW OF DEATH ,Upon them a light
has shined.
3 You have multiplied the nationAnd increased its joy; They rejoice
before You According to the joy of harvest,As men rejoice when they
divide the spoil. 4 For You have broken the yoke of his burden. And the
staff of his shoulder,The rod of his oppressor,As in the day of Midian.
5 For every warrior's sandal from the noisy battle,And garments rolled
in blood,Will be used for burning and fuel of fire.
6 For unto us a Child is born,Unto us a Son is given;And the government
will be upon His shoulder.And His name will be called Wonderful,
Counselor, Mighty Elohim,Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace
(Yahwehshalom). 7 Of the increase of His government and peace. There
will be no end,Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,To order it
and establish it with judgment and justice. From that time forward, even
forever.The zeal of Yahweh of hosts will perform this.

NKJV

Luke 13:22-30

And He went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying
toward Jerusalem. 23 Then one said to Him, "Master, are there few who
are saved?"

And He said to them, 24 "Strive to enter through the NARROW gate, for
many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When
once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you
begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying,'MASTER,MASTER,
open for us,' and He will answer and say to you,'I do not know you,
where you are from,' 26 then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank
in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.' 27 But He will say,
'I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all
you workers of iniquity.' 28 There will be weeping and gnashing of
teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in
the Kingdom of Yahweh, and yourselves thrust out. 29 They will come
from the east and the west, from the north and the south, and sit down
in the Kingdom of Yahweh. 30 And indeed there are last who will be
first, and there are first who will be last."
NKJV
Where thier is a kingdom thier is a land and as the Isrealites strove
to enter the promice land so do we Strive to enter a better land where
death is no more.

1 Cor 15:51-58
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall
all be changed — 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the
last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised
incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put
on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when
this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on
immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written:
"DEATH is swallowed up in victory."

55 "O DEATH, where is your sting ?
O Hades, where is your victory?"

56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the LAW. 57 But
thanks be to Yahweh, who gives us the victory through our Master Yahshua
our Messiah.

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always
abounding in the work of Yahweh, knowing that your labor is not in vain
in Yahweh.
NKJV

I hope that we can see that the labor of Yahweh is Through his son
Yahshua,and that faith without works is dead.

Thier is so much more to say but this post is really long i know.

Matt 7:13-14

"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way
that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life,
and there are few who find it.
NKJV
Here is where Yahshua quoted this and his disciples understood
te true meaning.
Deut 11:22-32

22 "For if you carefully keep all these commandments which I command you
to do — to love Yahweh your Elohim, to walk in all His ways, and to hold
fast to Him — 23 then Yahweh will drive out all these nations from
before you, and you will dispossess greater and mightier nations than
yourselves. 24 Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall
be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the River
Euphrates, even to the Western Sea, shall be your territory. 25 No man
shall be able to stand against you; Yahweh your Elohim will put the
dread of you and the fear of you upon all the land where you tread, just
as He has said to you.

26 "Behold, I set before you today a blessing and a curse: 27 the
blessing, if you obey the commandments of Yahweh your Elohim which I
command you today; 28 and the curse, if you do not obey the commandments
of Yahweh your Elohim, but turn aside from the way which I command you
today, to go after other gods which you have not known. 29 Now it shall
be, when Yahweh your Elohim has brought you into the land which you go
to possess, that you shall put the blessing on MOUNT Gerizim and the
curse on MOUNT Ebal . 30 Are they not on the other side of the Jordan,
toward the setting sun, in the land of the Canaanites who dwell in the
plain opposite Gilgal, beside the terebinth trees of Moreh? 31 For you
will cross over the Jordan and go in to possess the land which Yahweh
your Elohim is giving you, and you will possess it and dwell in it. 32
And you shall be careful to observe all the statutes and judgments which
I set before you today.
NKJV
Narrow is the way to life and broad is the way to destruction.
The 2 witnesses when you see them come forth remember they will not
teach what you have been taught to do away with the law but will teach
you the true evangel THE LAW, FAITH, and also teach you the name of the
only name under HEAVEN BY WHICH MAN CAN BE SAVED. If you can know it?
Miles

Jess642's photo
Wed 05/16/07 05:36 PM
I follow the tracks of the animals, their wisdom of the terrain is
clearer than mine.

I tend to follow the ridges, and venture into the valleys when seeking
food and water.

From the ridge I have a clearer perspective, I can see the way the winds
move the clouds, the east from the west, and catch the first and last
rays of the days.

I can see smoke on the horizons, I can see the coming of fires, from the
ridges, I can keep my vision long-range, and not so narrowed down to the
underbrush, and brambles.

I would leave no markers, as I am walking a path that the native animals
created, and would keep my tracks and presence to a minimum.

kariZman's photo
Wed 05/16/07 06:14 PM
bury your head in the sand dont take drugs read ya bibles and fullfill
the prophesy .laugh smokin remain steadfast in the lies you have
been dished up and make sure everyone follows the narrow road to
salvation gods will must be donelaugh laugh this planet is covered
with idiots all goin for their slice of the pie and im alright jack keep
ya hands off my stack.sick sick sick arnt we.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 05/16/07 06:20 PM
kariZman
Hey expound some more and being on this thread do you believe in the
Holy Scriptures? I only ask because of the picture under your name. You
sound like you think for yourself and thats something i really do like
seeing. Take care Miles

kariZman's photo
Wed 05/16/07 06:51 PM
how many times do people have to read the writing on the wall its all
been said before i just read the writing on the wall nothing original
about my thoughts .butt from were im looking the majority of us know
jack sshhiitt as to the point of it all.so consume be silent then
die.ohwell im just gunner box on reguardless smokin

kariZman's photo
Wed 05/16/07 07:28 PM
i have read the bible and it is about as holey as a block o swiss
cheese not the most inspiring book ive ever read most of it does not
make sense to me. most of the yarns make me feel sick and paints the
gloomyist picture for the future .sad there is no solicitude in this
world gods will takes on that job isnt god doin a great job keeping us
all in single file.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 05/16/07 07:48 PM
I see. Well it is a shame that you see it in a way that the
possibility we are just some big joke. The Bible and it's promices I
know are real. Our minds are so complex we are capleable of anything.
Ever wonder why we only use 10% of our minds? Is thier people who can
tap into the other 90% and do things that defy's logic? I am very
blessed that I have seen/did things (not me though) that defy logic and
been ridiculed and told I was crazy and mean to say such things. Yet
when i was right all that was said was how did you know. I just knew.
Why I had no doubts. Belief. You seem angry and I pray that leaves you
as bitterness does great harm to your own physical body. Stress is a
killer. May Yahweh grant you Peace. Miles

kariZman's photo
Wed 05/16/07 09:08 PM
id be stressin if i believed the bible i like a bit of stress then
ismokin smokin smokin smokin smokin arh and all the stress
just goes thanks god for your wizzdum when you created the herb
superbhappy happy :smile: bigsmile

no photo
Wed 05/16/07 09:30 PM
It is nothing new to think that you are doing something new.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 05/16/07 10:03 PM
Miles what does all that have to say except what has allready been said.
I can read also.

It does also mention following the path less traveled.

I suppose there is a person on here that can now tell me the path less
traveled is the straight and narrow. Pah...

KariZman has not shown anger. On the contrary sometimes he is the voice
of reason you just hear him not for he speaks to you in a language your
spirit can not hear.

All things come full circle. Newness is only new in the time it is new
after a time it is no longer new after more time it is forgotten after
even more time it becomes new again.

Belushi's photo
Wed 05/16/07 11:15 PM
The path I have chosen is fraught with danger. But it is controlled
danger

But it is my "chosen" path. It is the path of non-acceptance, of
questioning everything and an inability to keep still.

I can't follow the sheep into framed lives they lead.

I choose the unconventional and irregular.

and for all that, I steer as far away from conformity as I can, for as
long as I can.

no photo
Thu 05/17/07 12:34 AM
I travel by instinct, always.
In order to see certain things, I have to make sure that I
can't be seen or heard. Therefore I leave no traces.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 05/17/07 04:35 AM
AdventureBegins
shalom
what I wrote has where Yahshua quoted from. I was trying to
expound on the seriousness of the subject. Why that saying would of
meant to the disciples as to us we have a hard time understanding that
all that Yahshua said was not new. He was only expounding on his fathers
commands. They did not have any New Testament. All thier thinking that
was written down was relating to the spiritual context of thier holy
Scriptures. Like was said of Paul somethings are hard to understand.
Take Care and May Yahweh bless Your Journey.miles