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Topic: a question for pondering
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Thu 05/17/07 09:15 PM
okay so this is just really something to try to see how people think
about it.. not to get to deep or to .. furious at one another lol..

okay so in the bible when God makes everyone speak a different language,
because they are trying to build a stairway to heaven.. why does he
bother to make different languages i mean really.. we've seen what's
above the clouds.. so techinically even if we built it all the way up
wouldn't we just float off into space lol

Differentkindofwench's photo
Thu 05/17/07 09:20 PM
Maybe so we could learn to work together and find a common
understanding?

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Thu 05/17/07 09:22 PM
good answer different

LOL sorority I love you but you LOST me buddy?! I'm confused what
scriptures.

At first I thought you were referring to Pentecost with the first
appearance of the Holy Spirit when they were speaking in tongues.


But as I read I was huh?

bellameetsbeau's photo
Thu 05/17/07 09:25 PM
they were getting prideful and trying to do things without God. so he
had to cause confusion so people would rely on Him. and to teach others
a lesson.

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Thu 05/17/07 09:29 PM
the tower of babylon.. wasn't it yall ... do i have my towers confused..
someone help brain dead

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Thu 05/17/07 09:31 PM
ioooops

tower of babel lol

bellameetsbeau's photo
Thu 05/17/07 09:31 PM
yes tower of babel.
what they were trying to build was actually a temple. and God had said
'be fruitful and populate the earth' and to do that they would have to
scatter and they built the temple to not scatter. so they were going
against God's command

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Thu 05/17/07 09:31 PM
gen 11 bored

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Thu 05/17/07 09:33 PM
yes thats what the subtext of my bible says that they were suppose to "
fill the earth" and it says the lord fewars the human power that might
result from ethnic and linguisity unity.

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Thu 05/17/07 09:33 PM
was just seeing if anyone had any other ideas about it

bellameetsbeau's photo
Thu 05/17/07 09:34 PM
yeah it really didnt have nething to do with them trying to reach God.
it had to do with the pride of them trying to reach God without God's
help.

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Thu 05/17/07 09:42 PM
Genesis 11:1-9

The purpose of the tower was two fold: Make a name for themselves and so
that they would never be scattered. They were worshipping themselves
and disobeying God (...fill the earth...). Their languages were
confused and they were scattered across the world as punishment.

When people have peace and happiness, they turn away from God and
instead congratulate themselves for being so wonderful. Today, just
like then, people only seek God when there is trouble, when we should
always seek God's face.

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Thu 05/17/07 09:44 PM
bellameetsbeau,

Great job on the answer and much more eloquent than mine.

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Thu 05/17/07 09:44 PM
Without the account of the Tower of Babel in the Bible's book of
Genesis, we would have no idea how the many languages of the world came
about.

Language scholars have marveled that there are so many languages in the
world and that all have a type of grammar. They marvel that there is no
such thing as a “primitive” language, because even cultures that seem
primitive have languages as complex as modern cultural groups.
Interestingly, the earliest records of written language date no further
back than four or five thousand years (the time, according to Bible
chronology, that the Tower of Babel events would have taken place).

Babel was a city founded by a warrior named Nimrod on a plain in the
land of Shinar in ancient Babylonia. The history of the building of the
city and its tower,((( “whose top may reach unto heaven” )))is described
in the Bible's book of Genesis (chapter 11). Nimrod is an ancient hero
known to have existed not only from the Bible, but from Sumerian and
Assyrian records as well. The Bible record bears all the marks of a
reliable historical account, for it is generally assumed that the tower
was what archaeologists know as a ziggurat: a multilevel pyramid-like
tower with a ramp to its temple on top.

The Bible gives us an excellent history of what happened at Babel that
gave rise to the different languages in the world:

Before Babel, everyone on earth spoke the same language (Genesis 11:1).
As people journeyed from the east they found a plain in Shinar (Sumeria)
and dwelt there (11:2).
They decided to build a city and a tower with top-quality bricks and
mortar (11:3).
This was to make a name for themselves and to prevent being scattered
all over the earth (11:4).
God was not pleased with their motives, because he had previously
commanded that people and animals multiply and fill the earth (Genesis
1:28, 9:1, 9:7).
So God confused their language to the extent that they could not
understand one another's speech (11:7).
This forced the people to leave off building their city and tower and to
scatter all over the earth (11:8), presumably now with much smaller
groups or families whose language was similar enough that they could at
least communicate with each other.

Those who dismiss this explanation of the origin of language do not
necessarily have a better explanation for the origin of language. The
Bible says the first man on earth could speak and understand language
(Genesis 2:16, 20). Then, as we have seen, the Bible gives a reasonable
explanation of how other languages came about.

Note that the Bible does not say that God created a whole pile of exotic
languages from scratch at Babel. It says He ((confounded or confused))
the one language that everyone originally spoke. So the elements of
grammar of that original language would still be there, and similarities
in many words and expressions would be an obvious outcome.

Evolutionists know that language appeared abruptly. But this fact seems
totally alien to their idea that humans evolved over millions of years
from ape-like animals. There are no human-like languages among apes, and
what evolutionists believe to be our closest ancestors are completely
incapable of making speech like we do (for example, the hypoglossal
nerve canals in chimps are only half as wide as in humans. These nerves
supply the muscles of the tongue and hyoid bone).

Interesting info:
Chimps may be taught to do certain things when they see human-created
symbols or letters, but chimps are incapable of coming up to someone and
exchanging philosophies in a language that both understand. (It may be
argued that human babies cannot do this either, but human babies can
utter words very soon after they are born, and can tell you what they
want at a very young age, even before they can write. Apes cannot speak
human languages at any age.)

Kat

What we are left with is that the Bible's explanation and timing for
human language appearance and dispersion completely fits the facts in
world history as we know it. On the other hand, evolution has no support
for the idea that language evolved from animal sounds, or explanation as
to why written language appeared suddenly about 4000-5000 years ago, or
how grammar got into the equation.

If someone is looking for an explanation of the origin of language, the
Bible's explanation is clearly the best we have.



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Thu 05/17/07 09:48 PM
oo nicely done guys! !!!

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Thu 05/17/07 09:51 PM
In high school our Spanish teacher told us that there is a theory that a
baby makes every sound in every language but discards the ones it
doesn't hear as it matures. I don't know if this is true or not but an
interesting hypothesis.
Its also interesting that people of one language all have trouble with
the same things in another language when they try to speak it. Just
something to think about.

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Thu 05/17/07 09:52 PM
hmm i like the baby thing that is an interesting thought to ponder

davinci1952's photo
Thu 05/17/07 09:57 PM
sororitygurl...go look for a book called The 12th Planet and
read that...has a different spin on a lot of the bible stories..
it will change the way you view things..

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Thu 05/17/07 10:00 PM
wow they pretty much have you taken care of

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Thu 05/17/07 10:07 PM
pretty sure i don't believe in the bible lol ... so i dunno if it could
change much davinci

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