Topic: UFC and Hulk Hogan
kirk443's photo
Sat 07/18/09 10:37 PM
do you think hulk back in his prime could do better than the best ufc fighter?

ImLookingForU2's photo
Sat 07/18/09 10:46 PM
noway

kirk443's photo
Sat 07/18/09 11:02 PM
in my opinion hulk was the greatest wrestler ever
drinker

ThomasJB's photo
Sat 07/18/09 11:27 PM
He wasn't a fighter, he was a performer so no I don't.

adj4u's photo
Sun 07/19/09 04:39 AM

He wasn't a fighter, he was a performer so no I don't.


drinker

but i am sure he could give them a bit of a run

just because he was a performer does not mean he can not fight

bruce lee and chuck norris were also performers


Slyther83's photo
Sun 07/19/09 07:38 AM
this must be a joke

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 07/19/09 08:08 AM


He wasn't a fighter, he was a performer so no I don't.


drinker

but i am sure he could give them a bit of a run

just because he was a performer does not mean he can not fight

bruce lee and chuck norris were also performers




They were both fighters who learned to perform. Hogan has muscles sure and can take punch or two, but does know any martial arts or any real fighting techniques.

Blaze1978's photo
Sun 07/19/09 10:49 PM
Edited by Blaze1978 on Sun 07/19/09 10:55 PM
I'm working on a thesis called "Being in the Right Place at the Right Time." And I'm using Hulk Hogan as a case study.

I respect what Hogan did for the wrestling business, but he was a paper champion who was grossly overprotected by promoters and limped his way to every title he ever won without ever working hard. He was handed virtually everything he accomplished, as opposed to twenty hard working wrestlers I could name off the top of my head who never won the WWF World title because Hogan always held it.

Look, these are the facts: Back in '77, "Superstar" Billy Graham was the WWWF World champion, and the guy Vince McMahon Jr wanted to build the company around. Problem is, McMahon didn't have much say in the matter; his father still owned the company, and Daddy McMahon was old-school...He wanted Bob Backlund, a wrestler with an amateur background, as long-term champion. Thus Graham, whose great charisma and limited wrestling ability (plus the roided physique) made him directly comparable to Hogan, dropped the title, in spite of the fact that he was the superior draw. In other words, Graham would have made the company more money than Backlund with a long title reign.

Fast forward to 1984, two years after Vince Jr assumed control of the WWF. McMahon, still envisioning old dreams, hired Hogan to fill the role that might have been Graham's if his father was a bit less old-fashioned. In other words, Hogan was in the right time, right place. If Vince Jr had been in control of the company in '77, Graham would have likely had his 5-year run with the belt, and Vince probably would have introduced the changes that were made in the industry through the ensuing years through the "Superstar." In which case, Hogan would have no longer appeared distinct. As uniqueness and distinction (as in an indelible quality that makes a wrestler stand out) are important aspects of any main event wrestler, Hogan most likely would not have beaten the Iron Sheik at the Garden in 1984, and therefore would not have gone on to have the career he had.

Put Hogan in a shoot with your average professional wrestler, even your average wrestler without an amateur background, and Hogan would have gotten his @$$ kicked in short order. Due to his limited ring skill, Hogan in his prime, would not fare too well in an environment in which the matches are shoots, as opposed to works.

Sorry, man.

ThomasJB's photo
Sun 07/19/09 11:55 PM

I'm working on a thesis called "Being in the Right Place at the Right Time." And I'm using Hulk Hogan as a case study.

I respect what Hogan did for the wrestling business, but he was a paper champion who was grossly overprotected by promoters and limped his way to every title he ever won without ever working hard. He was handed virtually everything he accomplished, as opposed to twenty hard working wrestlers I could name off the top of my head who never won the WWF World title because Hogan always held it.

Look, these are the facts: Back in '77, "Superstar" Billy Graham was the WWWF World champion, and the guy Vince McMahon Jr wanted to build the company around. Problem is, McMahon didn't have much say in the matter; his father still owned the company, and Daddy McMahon was old-school...He wanted Bob Backlund, a wrestler with an amateur background, as long-term champion. Thus Graham, whose great charisma and limited wrestling ability (plus the roided physique) made him directly comparable to Hogan, dropped the title, in spite of the fact that he was the superior draw. In other words, Graham would have made the company more money than Backlund with a long title reign.

Fast forward to 1984, two years after Vince Jr assumed control of the WWF. McMahon, still envisioning old dreams, hired Hogan to fill the role that might have been Graham's if his father was a bit less old-fashioned. In other words, Hogan was in the right time, right place. If Vince Jr had been in control of the company in '77, Graham would have likely had his 5-year run with the belt, and Vince probably would have introduced the changes that were made in the industry through the ensuing years through the "Superstar." In which case, Hogan would have no longer appeared distinct. As uniqueness and distinction (as in an indelible quality that makes a wrestler stand out) are important aspects of any main event wrestler, Hogan most likely would not have beaten the Iron Sheik at the Garden in 1984, and therefore would not have gone on to have the career he had.

Put Hogan in a shoot with your average professional wrestler, even your average wrestler without an amateur background, and Hogan would have gotten his @$$ kicked in short order. Due to his limited ring skill, Hogan in his prime, would not fare too well in an environment in which the matches are shoots, as opposed to works.

Sorry, man.


Hogan only ever had the charisma. He was lousy wrestler who only had a couple moves and they weren't all that great, but you could say that about most wrestler at he time. Hogan became the forefather of what became a whole slew of wrestlers with no ring talent, but they knew how to work a crowd.

Blaze1978's photo
Mon 07/20/09 02:37 AM


I'm working on a thesis called "Being in the Right Place at the Right Time." And I'm using Hulk Hogan as a case study.

I respect what Hogan did for the wrestling business, but he was a paper champion who was grossly overprotected by promoters and limped his way to every title he ever won without ever working hard. He was handed virtually everything he accomplished, as opposed to twenty hard working wrestlers I could name off the top of my head who never won the WWF World title because Hogan always held it.

Look, these are the facts: Back in '77, "Superstar" Billy Graham was the WWWF World champion, and the guy Vince McMahon Jr wanted to build the company around. Problem is, McMahon didn't have much say in the matter; his father still owned the company, and Daddy McMahon was old-school...He wanted Bob Backlund, a wrestler with an amateur background, as long-term champion. Thus Graham, whose great charisma and limited wrestling ability (plus the roided physique) made him directly comparable to Hogan, dropped the title, in spite of the fact that he was the superior draw. In other words, Graham would have made the company more money than Backlund with a long title reign.

Fast forward to 1984, two years after Vince Jr assumed control of the WWF. McMahon, still envisioning old dreams, hired Hogan to fill the role that might have been Graham's if his father was a bit less old-fashioned. In other words, Hogan was in the right time, right place. If Vince Jr had been in control of the company in '77, Graham would have likely had his 5-year run with the belt, and Vince probably would have introduced the changes that were made in the industry through the ensuing years through the "Superstar." In which case, Hogan would have no longer appeared distinct. As uniqueness and distinction (as in an indelible quality that makes a wrestler stand out) are important aspects of any main event wrestler, Hogan most likely would not have beaten the Iron Sheik at the Garden in 1984, and therefore would not have gone on to have the career he had.

Put Hogan in a shoot with your average professional wrestler, even your average wrestler without an amateur background, and Hogan would have gotten his @$$ kicked in short order. Due to his limited ring skill, Hogan in his prime, would not fare too well in an environment in which the matches are shoots, as opposed to works.

Sorry, man.


Hogan only ever had the charisma. He was lousy wrestler who only had a couple moves and they weren't all that great, but you could say that about most wrestler at he time. Hogan became the forefather of what became a whole slew of wrestlers with no ring talent, but they knew how to work a crowd.


I dunno if most...for every untalented Hogan that made it to the top, there were maybe ten Dynamite Kid's that had to be satisfied with the mid-card.

But yeah, the point is that Hulk Hogan is like Hitler to some of us purist wrestling fans.pitchfork

supermike48's photo
Mon 07/20/09 10:05 PM
wrong hulk hogan was a terrible wrestler. he could not wrestle at all. flair had more wrestling skill in his finger. then hogan had in his hole body.

MurrayHewitt's photo
Mon 07/20/09 10:11 PM
Edited by MurrayHewitt on Mon 07/20/09 10:11 PM
Hulk Hogan was still a horrid wrestler in his prime, so he would get smashed in UFC.

kirk443's photo
Mon 07/20/09 10:30 PM

Hulk Hogan was still a horrid wrestler in his prime, so he would get smashed in UFC.
hogan could kick serious butt in and out of the ufc from north to south in my opinion


drinker

kirk443's photo
Mon 07/20/09 10:32 PM

I'm working on a thesis called "Being in the Right Place at the Right Time." And I'm using Hulk Hogan as a case study.

I respect what Hogan did for the wrestling business, but he was a paper champion who was grossly overprotected by promoters and limped his way to every title he ever won without ever working hard. He was handed virtually everything he accomplished, as opposed to twenty hard working wrestlers I could name off the top of my head who never won the WWF World title because Hogan always held it.

Look, these are the facts: Back in '77, "Superstar" Billy Graham was the WWWF World champion, and the guy Vince McMahon Jr wanted to build the company around. Problem is, McMahon didn't have much say in the matter; his father still owned the company, and Daddy McMahon was old-school...He wanted Bob Backlund, a wrestler with an amateur background, as long-term champion. Thus Graham, whose great charisma and limited wrestling ability (plus the roided physique) made him directly comparable to Hogan, dropped the title, in spite of the fact that he was the superior draw. In other words, Graham would have made the company more money than Backlund with a long title reign.

Fast forward to 1984, two years after Vince Jr assumed control of the WWF. McMahon, still envisioning old dreams, hired Hogan to fill the role that might have been Graham's if his father was a bit less old-fashioned. In other words, Hogan was in the right time, right place. If Vince Jr had been in control of the company in '77, Graham would have likely had his 5-year run with the belt, and Vince probably would have introduced the changes that were made in the industry through the ensuing years through the "Superstar." In which case, Hogan would have no longer appeared distinct. As uniqueness and distinction (as in an indelible quality that makes a wrestler stand out) are important aspects of any main event wrestler, Hogan most likely would not have beaten the Iron Sheik at the Garden in 1984, and therefore would not have gone on to have the career he had.

Put Hogan in a shoot with your average professional wrestler, even your average wrestler without an amateur background, and Hogan would have gotten his @$$ kicked in short order. Due to his limited ring skill, Hogan in his prime, would not fare too well in an environment in which the matches are shoots, as opposed to works.

Sorry, man.
sweet man you are so smart, 'fist'

FarmBoyWithStyle's photo
Thu 07/23/09 06:09 AM
dude you cant let your love for him think he could do something like that. i love the guy, and think he was a bit better wrestler than what eeryone else has said. i dont think he was good, but i do think that he was better than hes gettin credit. but he had no fighting skillz. yeah im sure in a bar he could throw a few haymakers, but he never was super limber man. in the ufc. he would get subbmitted so he may not get his *** kicked. but he still wouldnt stand a chance. and in his weight class, the guys throw fricken bombs, and very accurate ones at that. not just trying to swing wild which would be the way hogan would have to go about it.

sure if he trained for a long period of time. which his strength maybe he could do it. when he was in his prime, but other than that. no chance.