Many ignorant people think that Kirlian photos are 'evidence' of auras. If by 'aura' they mean something which exists at any time other than the time of the photograph, they are wrong. I'm not denying that auras may exist, I'm saying that Kirlian photographs demonstrate a temporary state created by the externally applied electric field.

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I do not think there is a question on what an aura is. It is a matter of where it came from.

But don't electric fields exist around the human body, albeit a weak one? The signals from,within and sent from the brain are electrical in nature, don't these constitute a "field"?

What method is used to create the electrical field... could it be that the photographed fields are evidence of interaction

No, the atoms in our bodies do not all "point" in the same direction, thus they cancel each other out and thus no polarized magnetic field is created. (if the question was do atoms have magnetic fields, the answer would be yes albeit TINY, and unless they work together the object they are made out of itself has no coherent magnetic field.)

Magnets on the other hand create a magnetic field BECAUSE all or most of the atoms are aligned in the material and add up to a polar field.

Now if you decided to travel to the high magnetic's lab on the campus at FSU where I have assisted in research you could watch an egg levitate.

This occurs becuase the amazingly powerful magnetic field that can be produced will orient the atoms in the egg in such a way to polarize in the same direction as the magnetic field that is being produced by the MASSIVE electromagnet at the lab there. (This is the same effect used in MRI scanners)

If you believe aura's exist around people, and that the cause of these aura's is a magnetic field then I can clearly and truthfully tell you, that you are wrong.

This is demonstrable.


They are using a powerful electromagnet to produce the field. This field most certainly does interact with light which produces the effects photographed.

So the object does interact with the field, the field does interact with light, and all of this is well documented and the cause and effect relationship well known.

I think a specific claim is needed for me to comment further.

Oh, I was speaking of the electrical nature of our bodies, not the magnetic. Since the signals sent via nerves to the brain carry electric charge, wouldn't they collectively create a field around the body, thus given the impression of an aura? Is the egg experiment you speak of the same as the experiment with the frog suspended in a magnetic field? Both are very interesting.

Maybe the energy is there the whole time, but can only be seen when certain light is applied.





Did we go over that theory? Or am I going to be rushed off and have my nose pushed into a corner cos Im interested in learning something?

Kirlian photography refers to a form of photogram made with a high voltage. It is named after Semyon Kirlian, who in 1939 accidentally discovered that if an object on a photographic plate is connected to a source of high voltage, small corona discharges (created by the strong electric field at the edges of the object) create an image on the photographic plate.[1]

Kirlian's work, from 1939 onward, involved an independent rediscovery of a phenomenon and technique variously called "electrography," "electrophotography," and "corona discharge photography." The Kirlian technique is contact photography, in which the subject is in direct contact with a film placed upon a metal plate charged with high voltage, high frequency electricity.

The underlying physics (which makes xerographic copying possible) was explored as early as 1777 by Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (see Lichtenberg figures). Later workers in the field included Nikola Tesla; various other individuals explored the effect in the later 19th and early 20th centuries.

Kirlian made controversial claims that the image he was studying might be compared with the human aura. An experiment advanced as evidence of energy fields generated by living entities involves taking Kirlian contact photographs of a picked leaf at set periods, its gradual withering being said to correspond with a decline in the strength of the aura. However it may simply be that the leaf loses moisture and becomes less electrically conductive, causing a gradual weakening of the electric field at the drier edges of the leaf. In some experiments, if a section of a leaf was torn away after the first photograph, a faint image of the missing section would remain when a second photograph was taken. The Archives of American Art Journal of the Smithsonian Institution published a leading article with reproductions of images of this phenomenon.[specify] It has been suggested that this effect was due to contamination of the glass plates, which were reused for both the "before" and "after" photographs.[2] The effect was not reproduced in better-controlled experiments.

Its a single field for electricity and magnetism. Its called the electromagnetic field.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_field

Yes, frog, egg, plastic toy cars . . . all kinds of stuff that normally does not have a field . . . the human body . . . the list goes on, any non ferrous material does not produce a field under normal conditions.

Wow, all this rude crap to disprove a possible phenomena which could give evidence of the supernatural.

Nope, I didnt search the internet for my answer, I actually asked MYSELF questions, and valid ones as well.


*shakes head* for people that dont believe in a God, you sure spend alot of time trying to disprove him. So who is he true believer?


Certainly not someone trying to disprove something they know doesnt exist. Oh NOOO!

Wow, sorry I didnt print my stuff off for ya.

And thank you billy for adressing my ameteur question, weather you agree with me or not.


Its really stuffy in here. SEE YA!

huh?


All I know is the claim usually made is that people have some kind of field, of some kind of indeterminate energy, and that these photo's show that.

I think the only thing being shown by the OP is that what is seen in the picture is the field generated by the electricity flowing through the plate and interacting with the object below and without the plate and voltage you get no fancy pictures.

So if there is a field around humans (independent of plates with flowing juice) then this is not the experiment to show that.

I hope that helps?

I certainly do not count this as proof against god, just proof against a claim of discovering a human energy field.