Topic: What is "Real Thought?"
creativesoul's photo
Mon 08/10/09 09:23 PM
Abstruct...

That's cool!

bigsmile

creativesoul's photo
Mon 08/10/09 09:25 PM
Hypothalamus???

huh, I thought it equated to me gettin' a stiffy!

laugh

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 08/10/09 09:39 PM
I am the center of my sensory systems.

My thoughts however can be farther than jupiter or contained within the seed I am examining.

Or bit of dust floating in the atmosphere.

What then is real thought...

Is it trapped within this physical body or greater than it?

creativesoul's photo
Mon 08/10/09 09:54 PM
Neither...

You possess language.

:wink:

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 08/10/09 10:13 PM

Neither...

You possess language.

:wink:

Aye as do you.
Lanuguage is imperfect in that I can but communicate a fraction of the thought...

Language is a by product of the mind at the center of my sensor systems.

I however am in commmand of the whole system...

and I am still me when that system malfunctions... (NDE... still me).

If I am at the center of my thoughts...

How can thought be located in my bio/systems?

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Mon 08/10/09 10:20 PM

I AM. drinker

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 08/10/09 10:26 PM


I AM. drinker

You are!!!bigsmile
drinker

creativesoul's photo
Mon 08/10/09 11:30 PM
Memory loss does not equate to language malfunction.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 08/11/09 12:01 AM


I AM. drinker




bigsmile me2bigsmile

no photo
Tue 08/11/09 12:19 AM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Tue 08/11/09 12:35 AM
AdventureB:
I am at the center of my thoughts...


THAT'S MOST SELFISH!!! YOU'RE SO VAIN...

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 08/11/09 12:20 AM


The origin I was referring to is the area indicated by the activity in the brain, prior to the subject being aware of the thought and feelings which result from it.

Sense perception is what causes thought, it encompassess the totality of it. Without it, we have no reason to believe that there could be any, through observation. It is a system, none-the-less.

The thinking(awareness) center is the pre-frontal cortex, although all areas produce affect thought accordingly.

It should also be noted that automatic thoughts do not always tell the truth.



1.)In the case of a brain scan, 'activity' seen or located prior to the subject being aware of the thought and feelings is interesting, but it does not prove where the thought originated from or how that happened.

2.)Sense perception does not 'cause thought' because without awareness, there would be no sense perception.

3.)Where is the proof that the pre-frontal cortex is an awareness center or is the thinking center of the brain?

4.) Automatic thoughts are part of programing. (Whether they are true or not is irrelevant.)



You are a very wise woman Jeannie. You saw right through all of that. bigsmile

The things you say are certainly more in line with the courses that I've taken on the subject. flowerforyou

Of course #2 is pretty obvious. Even a golden monkey could see that one.

rofl


MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 08/11/09 12:25 AM



The origin I was referring to is the area indicated by the activity in the brain, prior to the subject being aware of the thought and feelings which result from it.

Sense perception is what causes thought, it encompassess the totality of it. Without it, we have no reason to believe that there could be any, through observation. It is a system, none-the-less.

The thinking(awareness) center is the pre-frontal cortex, although all areas produce affect thought accordingly.

It should also be noted that automatic thoughts do not always tell the truth.



1.)In the case of a brain scan, 'activity' seen or located prior to the subject being aware of the thought and feelings is interesting, but it does not prove where the thought originated from or how that happened.

2.)Sense perception does not 'cause thought' because without awareness, there would be no sense perception.

3.)Where is the proof that the pre-frontal cortex is an awareness center or is the thinking center of the brain?

4.) Automatic thoughts are part of programing. (Whether they are true or not is irrelevant.)



You are a very wise woman Jeannie. You saw right through all of that. bigsmile

The things you say are certainly more in line with the courses that I've taken on the subject. flowerforyou

Of course #2 is pretty obvious. Even a golden monkey could see that one.

rofl





:banana: whoot whoot:banana:

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 08/11/09 12:29 AM

AdventureB:
If I am at the center of my thoughts...


THAT'S MOST SELFISH!!! YOU'RE SO VAIN...

Am I...?

I am at the center of my thoughts. To say less would be a lie.

However I am not THE center of my thoughts. That rests upon my focus.


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Tue 08/11/09 12:42 AM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Tue 08/11/09 12:43 AM
... Oh, I'm not in the mood to play Mind Games!
Its time for bed...
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ARE YOU COMMING ?

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 08/11/09 12:54 AM
HAVE A BEER MIRROR!





AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 08/11/09 01:00 AM

Memory loss does not equate to language malfunction.

gained three days worth of memories in 12 minutes...

of places I had never been to that point.

Reckon that ain't no malfuncton.

creativesoul's photo
Tue 08/11/09 09:19 AM
Sense perception is the only input humans have. How could one entertain the notion of thought without it? Awareness emerges from sense perception, not the other way around.

You guys are quite funny in your creative imaginations.

creativesoul's photo
Tue 08/11/09 09:34 AM
Thought is a signal that carries information or instructions.


If the above is true, then my sons' remote control car controllers send thoughts to the vehicles.

laugh

Whatcha think?

creativesoul's photo
Tue 08/11/09 09:49 AM
Edited by creativesoul on Tue 08/11/09 09:50 AM
By that definition, radios send thoughts to everyone tuned in to that frequency.

My car key sends a thought to the starter.

A calculater thinks.

The satellite dish receives thoughts from the satellite.

Morse code is thought, but braille is not.

I don't buy the definition, I think it is a false statement.



creativesoul's photo
Tue 08/11/09 09:51 AM
Oh yeah!

flowers

Welcome to the world of philosophy.