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Topic: How do you think God Defines Man?
AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:07 PM
Since we can not really know what is God.

Can we know what that which is God thinks of us?

Caecius's photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:12 PM
Naturally, we can not. If we don't know what something is, how can we
possibly extrapolate what it thinks based on the writings of fallible
entities? Similarly, we don't know what unicorns or aliens think of us.

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Tue 05/22/07 02:18 PM
does that not depend on how we perceive God in the first place?

77Sparky's photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:21 PM
Interesting question. Speaking as one who believes and trusts in God I
would like to think God sees us as a work in progress with potential for
great things. If God were the vengeful, hell fire and brimstone God
portrayed by some, our time on this planet or at least mine would have
already ended.

By the way, nice to see you again AB. I always enjoy your posts

Jerry

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:25 PM
Dont look at it from your point of view.

Clear you mind of all self.

Go outside of yourself and look back and see what you might be to
another.

Or look at the entire human race from how you might see it from the
point of view of say Jupiter or the center of the Milky Way or an atom
in a grain of sand on a beach in Austrialia.

no photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:27 PM
What does God think about us? He loves us so much that He watched his
own son suffer and die, so that we could be brought closer to Him.

no photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:27 PM
Well, then we are a relatively weak link in a natural chain.
We destroy where we should preserve.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:34 PM
You could be right but we are also the only link on this planet (that we
know of) capable of stepping beyond this planet. And not just by our
technology.

Enoch son of Jared of the line of Seth son of Adam left the earth and
was never seen again at the ripe old age of 365. He did not die he
walked with god and was never seen again.

no photo
Tue 05/22/07 02:36 PM
Well, that might as well be, but we are using the free will that was
given to us for what????
How many species have left this planet for good?
And how did it happen?

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 03:15 PM
We are like the young bird. When first we tried to leave the nest we
were to young and so fell and our wing was broken.

When that wing is healed we will take flight. Before we take flight we
will put our nest to rights. It is in our nature though some see it not
perfering instead to see the nature of the beast and not the nature of
the child of god.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 05/22/07 03:43 PM
What Does God Think About Me?
Perhaps, what you thought about God seemed to be more important. But if
you consider that He is the Ruler and Judge of the Universe (Genesis
18:25; Acts 17:30; Isaiah 45:18-22), and that you must one day stand
before Him and give account of your life. "Well," you say, "He must
think well of me because things have gone pretty well in my life." In
one sense you are right. The Bible says that God is kind to all in Luke
6:35. In fact, every meal that you eat, everything that you own, and
every breath that you take come from God. Yes, God is kind to you, but
the same verse says that He is kind to evil people. Murderers, robbers,
and other wicked people eat and breathe because of God's kindness. His
kindness is supposed to turn them to Him. So there must be more to this
question: "What does God think about me?" Consider this while you are
thinking about your answer: God is Holy. (Isaiah 6:3; Revelation 15:4; 1
Peter 1:15-16) Holy means that God is morally pure and perfectly good.
He loves good and hates evil. Holy means that He delights in good things
like love, truthfulness, sexual purity, good motives, clean speech,
respect for authority, and godly living (loving God, respecting God,
worshiping God, and keeping His commandments). Holy means that He hates
such things as lying, stealing, sexual immorality, foul language, pride,
and ungodly living (not loving God, not respecting God, not worshiping
God, and disobeying His commandments). These are what the Bible calls
sin. (1 John 3:4; Romans 1:18-32; Galatians 5:19-21)

Now consider this: God is Just. (1 Peter 1:17; Romans 2:5-11; Romans
1:32) That means that He not only hates sin, but that He will also
punish all sin. He has said, "The soul that sins will die." (Ezekiel
18:20) God always keeps His word. So everyone who does the things that
the Holy God hates will be punished by Him. The punishment is death. In
God's Bible, death means to die physically and then to die eternally in
hell. (Matthew 18:8-9; Matthew 25:46; 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10; Revelation
14:11)

So ask yourself this question, "Do I sin?" If the answer is yes, then
God is very angry with you, and if things don't change, He will put you
to physical and eternal death. So you are in great danger. Think about
it. God is extremely angry because you do things He hates, and He is
going to punish you. It could happen any day. People die every day.

Now consider some good news: God is Love. (1 John 4:8; (1 John 4:16;
Exodus 34:6-7; John 3:16) And the loving, holy God makes you an
incredible offer. He offers to forgive you of all your sins . . . every
one of them . . . and not be angry with you and not send you to hell.
You might say, "He can't do that because that wouldn't be just, that
would be like letting a criminal off on a technicality." That's a good
point, but that's not how God works it out. God offers to accept the
punishment of someone else for your sins, someone who has never sinned
and who willingly died for sinners . . . His own son Jesus Christ.

That is what the Cross is all about. Jesus died there as a substitute
for sinners. (2 Corinthians 5:21; Romans 5:10; Galatians 3:10-14) Now
for everyone who trusts Christ as their Savior, God counts it as if
Jesus had died in their place. All of the anger that the Holy and Just
God has for their sins was poured out on Jesus when He suffered and died
on the cross. So Jesus is punished, and the sinner is pardoned. Jesus is
condemned, and the sinner is forgiven. Then God looks upon the sinner as
a person who has never sinned. God justifies the sinner through Jesus
Christ. (Romans 3:19-26; Galatians 2:16; Romans 5:18) So then God's
justice is satisfied, and He is pleased with the person and gives him or
her eternal life. They will go to heaven to live with Him forever in joy
and perfect happiness. The person is right with God.

Perhaps at this point you want to ask, "How can I be right with God?"
The answer is in two parts. First, Repent. (Acts 2:37-39; Acts 17:30-31;
Luke 24:45-48) That means to turn away from everything in your life that
you know makes God angry. Don't do it anymore, get away from it, and
don't plan on doing it again. Whatever your sins are, turn away from
them.
Second, Believe on Jesus Christ as Savior. (Acts 16:30-34; John 3:14-21;
Ephesians 2:8-10) That means more than to just have a high opinion of
Him. That means to trust in Him, embrace Him, and put your faith in Him
as your only hope of eternal life. He offers salvation, forgiveness, and
eternal life to all who come to Him. If you sincerely come to Him, He
will not turn you away. When people come to Christ, all of their sins
are washed away, and they are righteous in God's sight. Then you can
imagine what God thinks about them! He calls them "My beloved, My
children, My holy ones, the apple of My eye." And He gives them an
eternity in paradise with Him.

Ponder this important question . . . What does God think of me? Can you
see that what you experience for all of eternity rests on the answer to
this one question? Heaven or hell, joy or torment, acceptance with God
or rejection, pardon or condemnation . . . all hang on God the Judge's
opinion of you. I urge you to take your eternity seriously. Go to Jesus
Christ, believe on Him, and you will be saved. Or don't, we all have
choices.
THIS WAS NOT AIMED AT ANYONE IN PARTICULAR.

Kat

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 05/22/07 04:10 PM
Invisible wrote:
“does that not depend on how we perceive God in the first place?”

I believe it does. AB’s first assumption may not be true for some
people. Some people may feel that they know what is god. And because
if this they can also feel that they know how god perceives them. I
believe that god is dynamic. There is no need to wait until you die to
know god. In fact, I believe that if you wait for that you’ll miss
knowing god altogether.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 04:13 PM
Jerry!

How have you been sir.

Glad to see you also.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Tue 05/22/07 04:21 PM
I believe God sees me as a joyfull little goofball tryin to live and
learn and grow without stompin the crap outta others in the process.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 05/22/07 04:28 PM
Who's waiting til they die to know God? Not me. I am learning more
everyday.
Kat

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 05:14 PM
How right you are Kat.

Abraham knew god.
Khrisna knew god.
Moses knew god.
Zoroaster knew god.
Ishaia knew god.
Jesus knew god.
Momhammad knew god.

So many of the people and Prophets of old knew god so also can the
people of this time know God.

It is the only way to learn.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 05/22/07 05:20 PM
My friend.flowerforyou

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/22/07 08:28 PM
Kat>on offering up Jesus for sins.

I notice that for some this give them the power over thier sins that
they need. For them this is the right way.

For me I am responsible for all that I do. If I walk not in the ways
God has proscribed for me I alone am responsible. I can not let a man
suffer for what I have done nor will I let the one known as the Son of
God pay for my sins. I will instead strive that I might not 'sin'. I
will walk as God has asked me walk and when I fall down He will pick me
up and grant me grace. 'go then an sin no more'. How many times will
he do this you might ask? While I am striving as many times as I fall
for He is grace and glory and will be allways with me.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 05/22/07 08:37 PM

For some AB it does give up to them what they want it to be. But, my
friend, it is too late; Jesus has already paid the price for our sins.
Now what we do with it from here on out is on us. God is grace. He is
our salvation, our recourse. He is our values, our deeds, our
redemption. We will always fall, we just don't have to fall from grace.
He will always be there to pick us up, and dust us off and send us back
on the path . It is still up to us to follow it in the direction in
which we are meant.
Kat

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Tue 05/22/07 08:41 PM
AdventureBegins,

Jesus has already been offered up as a sacrifice for our sins. God
wouldn't have taken such a drastic measure if any other path were
possible. It is now up to each of us to either accept or reject the
sacrifice. If you reject, you are at the mercy of the Law and the Law
does not have any mercy. There are no exceptions or loop holes. The
law was written to break us, anyone who isn't broken in life will be
broken in death.

Please, read Colossians and think about the message. It's only four
chapters long, it's a very quick read.

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