"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."--Abraham Lincoln


"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."-- Thomas Jefferson


"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison


Torches and pitchforks became the symbol of a peoples uprising against oppressive government in Europe in the 1700's. It still comes out whenever there is a sentiment among people that their government is usurping and abusing its authority over them, and their freedoms and liberties are at all threatened.

We believe that the time for symbolic torches and pitchforks has come in our country. Never in its storied history has so many sweeping changes began to unfold in such a short time period as they are right now. Our government is in a panic mode, passing legislation they don't even read and making laws that no one knows about. We were promised "change", but the change we are getting is for the worse, not the better.


If you love America, the free America we all grew up in, it is time to get out the torches and pitchforks and rise up to save her. The torches and pitchforks are not meant literally but symbolically. Speak out, protest, let your voice be heard on issues that you believe in strongly. Send emails, letters, faxes, phone calls to your elected officials and tell them that you are not going to give your country away without standing up for it.

why do you think they are passing the broad definition terrorist laws


they know they are in trouble and it will hit the way soon


lets hope it is not too late


""""a republic if we can keep it""""

we are not doing a very good job of keeping it

Like I said when he first won the only CHANGE this guy will make is CHANGE of address! I HOPE now we can get our tar and feathers on. Can we do it? YES WE CAN!

I don't think I would be quoting Lincoln-one of America's greatest tyrants-in this context, OP. (for more see DiLorenzo's book 'Lincoln Unmasked') Madison is also iffy (see "The Politically Correct Guide To American History" and The Anti-Federalist Papers).

All Pres. screw up once in a while and say the right thing even if they didn't mean to.

interesting

very interesting

With the town hall yelling ubiquitous, I suggest the congress people hide in their offices under the desk until the recess is over.


If you want the knuckleheads to really care what you have to say, start next year, by voting some of them out of office.

Yes, but not all Presidents murder and imprison thousands of innocent Americans, violate the Constitution, and impose slave-rate taxes like Lincoln did. :P You're right though-all Presidents have done some criminal act or another under the guise of "authority".

The important part is the message we need to show Gov. is, we are the voice, not them.

Yeah lets just wait and change them AFTER they finish ****ing us. That makes perfect sense... NOT.

I don't like how they're doing it.

Swastika painted outside Ga. congressman's office AP

By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Ben Evans, Associated Press Writer – Wed Aug 12, 8:04 am ET

WASHINGTON – The FBI and police were investigating after a swastika was painted outside Rep. David Scott's district office in Georgia, an act the suburban Atlanta Democrat said reflects an increasingly hateful and racist debate over health care and should remind people to tone down their rhetoric.

Scott's staff arrived at his Smyrna, Ga., office Tuesday morning to find the Nazi graffiti emblazoned on a sign bearing the lawmaker's name. The vandalism occurred roughly a week after Scott was involved in a confrontational argument over health care at a community meeting.

Scott said his office immediately notified authorities, including the U.S. Capitol Police, who have warned lawmakers about potential threats stemming from the increasingly emotional debate over health care reform. An FBI spokesman said the bureau is investigating along with Capitol Police and the Smyrna Police Department.

The congressman's office is located in a bank building and Scott said he was optimistic that surveillance cameras captured the vandalism.

Scott, who is black, said he also has received mail in recent days that used N-word references to him, and that characterized President Barack Obama as a Marxist.

"We have got to make sure that the symbol of the swastika does not win, that the racial hatred that's bubbling up does not win this debate," Scott said in a telephone interview. "There's so much hatred out there for President (Barack) Obama."

A moderate Democrat who represents a majority-white district near Atlanta, Scott said he thinks the racism is isolated but can't be ignored. He said the swastika probably was intended as a warning. He hopes it instead persuades reasonable people to maintain a more substantive debate over health care changes.

"We must not allow it to intimidate us," he said.

At an Aug. 1 community meeting in Douglasville, Ga., Scott angrily yelled at protesters who peppered him with questions and complaints about Democratic health care proposals. He has said he was upset that they interrupted a meeting that was supposed to be about plans for a new highway in the area.

You aren't going to change anything now. Yelling, doesn't mean crap to these elitists. You think they are going to change their vote because some peasants yelled at them?

Ain't gonna happen..

I think yelling at meetings looks ridiculous. I wouldn't take yelling people seriously.

Earth for humans ,not Lizards

I don't take people who shut people out of public meetings seriously! Nor do I take stacked "Town Hall" meetings with the president seriously either.

We have town hall meetings. People are shut out when the building reaches maximum capacity. I would like to go to one but the way that the yelling has been, I don't dare take my child to one.

In other words I refuse to listen if I can't see anyone making a disturbance? I assume the town hall is rigged because the only people there are way too civil. Heaven forbid that the people in the audience actually like the idea of a public option and want to know more about it with out all the screaming and yelling and violent out bursts. Ya, how dare people act intelligent and considerate, it's so un-american. What exactly did you expect from a town hall meeting with the president of the united states. Did you think people would be allowed to get roudy around the president. If McCain has held this town hall meeting as our president, or Ron Paul, do you think you would have been allowed to get roudy and shut down the conversation?

Out of 10 neighbors, 3 do not want this bill to pass. That tells me I am not alone in wanting major reform and a public option. But of course because a segment of society doesn't want it, that means no one can have it right? Doesn't matter that you can still have your own insurance the way you have it, as long as no one else has an option?

But Lincoln didn't "screw up"-he was a tyrant and a Statist. The atrocities he committed were done deliberately-not some kind of "oopsie". :P

Talking softly means nothing either... We did that during the bailout debates.

They just don't listen... period.

"We have town hall meetings. People are shut out when the building reaches maximum capacity. I would like to go to one but the way that the yelling has been, I don't dare take my child to one."

They are allowing union members and acorn members into these meetings ahead of time so there is no room for opposition...this is ok though, I'm glad the democRATS are doing this this will only help the GOP come November 2010. Although I would prefer a third party (moderate) and third party candidates but I don't see that one happening.