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Topic: Can religion bring peace if wanted?
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Thu 09/03/09 08:43 AM
Can religion bring peace without the use of war, torture, or other unpleasant activities if wanted?

What do you believe?

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Thu 09/03/09 08:49 AM

Can religion bring peace without the use of war, torture, or other unpleasant activities if wanted?

What do you believe?


Sure, but not if everyone isn't on board! JMO

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Thu 09/03/09 08:52 AM
Umm, nope don't think so. More war has been waged in the name of religion than for just about any reason, I do believe.

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Thu 09/03/09 08:56 AM
only if everyone was of the same religion would it bring peace. And that will never happen.

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Thu 09/03/09 09:03 AM
Since the dawn of time religion never brought peace. If you take a look most wars are because of religion.

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Thu 09/03/09 09:20 AM

Since the dawn of time religion never brought peace. If you take a look most wars are because of religion.


I disagree, i happen to believe it is the people within the religions that cause the war, not religion itself..

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Thu 09/03/09 09:23 AM


Since the dawn of time religion never brought peace. If you take a look most wars are because of religion.


I disagree, i happen to believe it is the people within the religions that cause the war, not religion itself..


Those people are fighting in the name of their religion/God. Most religions advocate an "us against them" mentality, therefore, when people fight in the name of their religion/God, it is because of the religion's principles themselves.

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Thu 09/03/09 09:26 AM


Since the dawn of time religion never brought peace. If you take a look most wars are because of religion.


I disagree, i happen to believe it is the people within the religions that cause the war, not religion itself..
It's people's interrpretation of their religion that causes wars. That their way is the only right way and you're not a true believer and you won't spend eternity in whatever heaven you believe in unless you spend your life convincing everyone else to believe as you do. That's what causes wars. When more than one side is equally sure that their God is the only right God.

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Thu 09/03/09 09:28 AM



Since the dawn of time religion never brought peace. If you take a look most wars are because of religion.


I disagree, i happen to believe it is the people within the religions that cause the war, not religion itself..


Those people are fighting in the name of their religion/God. Most religions advocate an "us against them" mentality, therefore, when people fight in the name of their religion/God, it is because of the religion's principles themselves.


But if you think about it, thats like that everywhere you go, such as racism and separation amongst people but if people learned how to cope with one another and respect the fact people are different. Maybe this world could be a better place. But I do agree with the one religion thing, because it will bring more people together instead of segregation.

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Thu 09/03/09 09:34 AM



But if you think about it, thats like that everywhere you go, such as racism and separation amongst people but if people learned how to cope with one another and respect the fact people are different. Maybe this world could be a better place. But I do agree with the one religion thing, because it will bring more people together instead of segregation.


Yes, it is like that everywhere you go. People have a pack mentality, we all want to be part of a group of like-minded, like-looking, like-believing people. As long as we all are different, this is the case. Therefore, people will never really learn to get along, because there will always be someone somewhere wanting to be better or more powerful.

However, this thread was specifically about religion. If you look at religion from a historical perspective, you will find that almost all religions, especially Western religions, instill an "us against everyone else who doesn't believe as we do and if they don't believe as we do, we'll make them" mentality, Christians over the last 2000 years being the worst of the bunch. If you look at every war, you will find most had at least a minor cause in religion.

I look at what is, not what I wish it was.

And, to go off-topic, I don't believe that organized religion brings people together, I think it's highly divisive and it is designed to be that way.

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Thu 09/03/09 09:40 AM




But if you think about it, thats like that everywhere you go, such as racism and separation amongst people but if people learned how to cope with one another and respect the fact people are different. Maybe this world could be a better place. But I do agree with the one religion thing, because it will bring more people together instead of segregation.


Yes, it is like that everywhere you go. People have a pack mentality, we all want to be part of a group of like-minded, like-looking, like-believing people. As long as we all are different, this is the case. Therefore, people will never really learn to get along, because there will always be someone somewhere wanting to be better or more powerful.

However, this thread was specifically about religion. If you look at religion from a historical perspective, you will find that almost all religions, especially Western religions, instill an "us against everyone else who doesn't believe as we do and if they don't believe as we do, we'll make them" mentality, Christians over the last 2000 years being the worst of the bunch. If you look at every war, you will find most had at least a minor cause in religion.

I look at what is, not what I wish it was.

And, to go off-topic, I don't believe that organized religion brings people together, I think it's highly divisive and it is designed to be that way.


Wow! i'm intrigued by that post, that's deep.

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Thu 09/03/09 10:22 AM


Unity is a key point if we could accept the diversity of all religions then we can live in harmony but religion entail dogma spirituality would be a better term. But it does bring peace of mind. Its just all the blazers don't see all the trails are on the same mountain and we see the same moon when we get to the top. It is a way of peace but we want everyone to see our trail and people get frustrated when people don't look then get violent. The mind is like a parachute it only works when its open. Maybe every one should look at all the trails like this and enjoy the multiplicity of the universal one. And no not all religions do not create war how many were made in the name of wicca or buddha?

But if you think about it, thats like that everywhere you go, such as racism and separation amongst people but if people learned how to cope with one another and respect the fact people are different. Maybe this world could be a better place. But I do agree with the one religion thing, because it will bring more people together instead of segregation.


Yes, it is like that everywhere you go. People have a pack mentality, we all want to be part of a group of like-minded, like-looking, like-believing people. As long as we all are different, this is the case. Therefore, people will never really learn to get along, because there will always be someone somewhere wanting to be better or more powerful.

However, this thread was specifically about religion. If you look at religion from a historical perspective, you will find that almost all religions, especially Western religions, instill an "us against everyone else who doesn't believe as we do and if they don't believe as we do, we'll make them" mentality, Christians over the last 2000 years being the worst of the bunch. If you look at every war, you will find most had at least a minor cause in religion.

I look at what is, not what I wish it was.

And, to go off-topic, I don't believe that organized religion brings people together, I think it's highly divisive and it is designed to be that way.

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Thu 09/03/09 10:37 AM
So its not the religion its the closed mindedness. Do ya really think god wanted to fight over him. And who has the biggest **** wins. Lol but it is looking that way. Neither wiccans or buddhist fought for it and look how big they are. But I tell ya the communties are!! Peaceful

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Thu 09/03/09 10:47 AM
Religions can not even agree on what truth is.. each believes their truth is the only truth, when there is actually truth is all of them. Unfortunately their view are to varied to come together to create peace. :heart:

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Thu 09/03/09 10:59 AM
Some are coming to the realisation and creating new movements I can name four religios movements that go way back and who knows this may be part of the dance yall are being cynical if u think its half empty it will be

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Thu 09/03/09 11:03 AM

Some are coming to the realisation and creating new movements I can name four religios movements that go way back and who knows this may be part of the dance yall are being cynical if u think its half empty it will be


While I agree with you that there is surly a movement, a shift towards peace, I just don't feel it will be the religious groups that will be in the forefront of it. jmo :heart:

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Thu 09/03/09 11:06 AM

And no not all religions do not create war how many were made in the name of wicca or buddha?

However, this thread was specifically about religion. If you look at religion from a historical perspective, you will find that almost all religions, especially Western religions,


Yes, I did say almost all, especially Western. Buddhism is an eastern philosophy and Wiccan, I'm not sure? But I don't consider it to be a Western religion, could be wrong though flowerforyou

Your analogy of different paths up the same mountain to view the same moon, beautiful.

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Thu 09/03/09 11:07 AM
And no not all religions do not create war how many were made in the name of wicca or buddha?

However there was war waged on the wiccans (still is today, didn't you hear they're all evil?) and the Pagans, as well as Buddhists.

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Thu 09/03/09 11:09 AM

Religions can not even agree on what truth is.. each believes their truth is the only truth, when there is actually truth is all of them. Unfortunately their view are to varied to come together to create peace. :heart:


What I find interesting is that if you really study major religions, their philosophies are essentially the same. It's the religious dogma that gets in the way of understanding. I don't believe that religions are as far apart as most of their leaders would have us believe.

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Thu 09/03/09 11:11 AM


Religions can not even agree on what truth is.. each believes their truth is the only truth, when there is actually truth is all of them. Unfortunately their view are to varied to come together to create peace. :heart:


What I find interesting is that if you really study major religions, their philosophies are essentially the same. It's the religious dogma that gets in the way of understanding. I don't believe that religions are as far apart as most of their leaders would have us believe.
agreed

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