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Topic: Spiritual Technology
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Fri 09/04/09 03:51 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 09/04/09 03:52 PM
Spiritual Technology, what is it?

I have heard that it is within the realm of possibility to do what is considered to be super natural things like become invisible or make things invisible, or to do remote viewing, soul travel, seeing into the future, shape shifting, telepathy, time travel, etc.

These things, if they are real, is what I call "spiritual technology."

I also call them "real science" because they go beyond the scope of the outer world of objects and explore the inner world of mind and spirit.

What kind of spiritual technology would you like to learn to do and what would you do with it?


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Fri 09/04/09 03:53 PM
I would like to clone a lot of money and share with EVERYONE!

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Fri 09/04/09 03:55 PM
I would clone myself so I didn't have to go to work laugh

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Fri 09/04/09 04:22 PM
Remote View the Hale Bopp and see if Heaven's Gate is there. indifferent

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Fri 09/04/09 04:32 PM

Remote View the Hale Bopp and see if Heaven's Gate is there. indifferent


good one. hmmmmm...

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Fri 09/04/09 05:45 PM
If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?

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Fri 09/04/09 05:58 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Fri 09/04/09 05:59 PM
If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?
To my way of thinking, the terms "see" and "future" are mutually exclusive. We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".

(Just feeling a little ornery. pitchfork biggrin)

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Fri 09/04/09 06:06 PM

If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?
To my way of thinking, the terms "see" and "future" are mutually exclusive. We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".

(Just feeling a little ornery. pitchfork biggrin)


If, as some believe there is nonlinear time and all things are happening simultaneously...past present, future all at once, and all is the now and the present.... could we then use the knowledge to make out "now" more pleasant..

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Fri 09/04/09 06:45 PM
If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?
To my way of thinking, the terms "see" and "future" are mutually exclusive. We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".

(Just feeling a little ornery. pitchfork biggrin)
If, as some believe there is nonlinear time and all things are happening simultaneously...past present, future all at once, and all is the now and the present.... could we then use the knowledge to make out "now" more pleasant..
Personally, I think that “all things happening simultaneously” is a misinterpretation – or a misrepresentation depending on your viewpoint. It seems to be based on the idea that “everything happens now”, which is an accurate statement. That is, nothing “happens” in the past because what is past cannot be changed, and nothing “happens” in the future” because the future has not yet “happened”. Thus, everything that happens, happens “now”.

But I definitely do believe that knowledge, inspection and evaluation of our memories can be used to make the “now” more pleasant by helping to determine what “mistakes” have been made in the past and using that knowledge to avoid making those same mistakes in the present.

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Fri 09/04/09 06:54 PM

If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?
To my way of thinking, the terms "see" and "future" are mutually exclusive. We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".

(Just feeling a little ornery. pitchfork biggrin)
If, as some believe there is nonlinear time and all things are happening simultaneously...past present, future all at once, and all is the now and the present.... could we then use the knowledge to make out "now" more pleasant..
Personally, I think that “all things happening simultaneously” is a misinterpretation – or a misrepresentation depending on your viewpoint. It seems to be based on the idea that “everything happens now”, which is an accurate statement. That is, nothing “happens” in the past because what is past cannot be changed, and nothing “happens” in the future” because the future has not yet “happened”. Thus, everything that happens, happens “now”.

But I definitely do believe that knowledge, inspection and evaluation of our memories can be used to make the “now” more pleasant by helping to determine what “mistakes” have been made in the past and using that knowledge to avoid making those same mistakes in the present.



Yes,...to be able to observe so called future events as to effect choice making....to be able to "see" a future event that has the ability to effect our "tomorrow" dramatically... to alter or change the outcome.

If I were to have this ability, this is what I would want to do with it...and to also do this for my children..oh heck, I would just do it for everyone flowers

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Fri 09/04/09 07:19 PM
If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?
To my way of thinking, the terms "see" and "future" are mutually exclusive. We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".

(Just feeling a little ornery. pitchfork biggrin)
If, as some believe there is nonlinear time and all things are happening simultaneously...past present, future all at once, and all is the now and the present.... could we then use the knowledge to make out "now" more pleasant..
Personally, I think that “all things happening simultaneously” is a misinterpretation – or a misrepresentation depending on your viewpoint. It seems to be based on the idea that “everything happens now”, which is an accurate statement. That is, nothing “happens” in the past because what is past cannot be changed, and nothing “happens” in the future” because the future has not yet “happened”. Thus, everything that happens, happens “now”.

But I definitely do believe that knowledge, inspection and evaluation of our memories can be used to make the “now” more pleasant by helping to determine what “mistakes” have been made in the past and using that knowledge to avoid making those same mistakes in the present.
Yes,...to be able to observe so called future events as to effect choice making....to be able to "see" a future event that has the ability to effect our "tomorrow" dramatically... to alter or change the outcome.

If I were to have this ability, this is what I would want to do with it...and to also do this for my children..oh heck, I would just do it for everyone flowers
Ok, I think I get here you’re coming from. You seem to be talking about “prediction” – The ability to extrapolate past events into a reasonable expectation of future events. And I wholeheartedly agree that the greater one’s ability to predict, the better things could be made all around.

My only point was that a “future event” is not really an event at all. It is a potential event. And the “potential” for that event resides in the present, not in the future.

Which is only to say that I agree with you. The ability to “see” the potential is a valuable skill indeed – at least from the viewpoint of one who is stuck with having to operate within the framework of time.

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Fri 09/04/09 07:29 PM

If it were possible to see into the future, do you think this would support the idea that all is pre-determined?
To my way of thinking, the terms "see" and "future" are mutually exclusive. We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".

(Just feeling a little ornery. pitchfork biggrin)
If, as some believe there is nonlinear time and all things are happening simultaneously...past present, future all at once, and all is the now and the present.... could we then use the knowledge to make out "now" more pleasant..
Personally, I think that “all things happening simultaneously” is a misinterpretation – or a misrepresentation depending on your viewpoint. It seems to be based on the idea that “everything happens now”, which is an accurate statement. That is, nothing “happens” in the past because what is past cannot be changed, and nothing “happens” in the future” because the future has not yet “happened”. Thus, everything that happens, happens “now”.

But I definitely do believe that knowledge, inspection and evaluation of our memories can be used to make the “now” more pleasant by helping to determine what “mistakes” have been made in the past and using that knowledge to avoid making those same mistakes in the present.
Yes,...to be able to observe so called future events as to effect choice making....to be able to "see" a future event that has the ability to effect our "tomorrow" dramatically... to alter or change the outcome.

If I were to have this ability, this is what I would want to do with it...and to also do this for my children..oh heck, I would just do it for everyone flowers
Ok, I think I get here you’re coming from. You seem to be talking about “prediction” – The ability to extrapolate past events into a reasonable expectation of future events. And I wholeheartedly agree that the greater one’s ability to predict, the better things could be made all around.

My only point was that a “future event” is not really an event at all. It is a potential event. And the “potential” for that event resides in the present, not in the future.

Which is only to say that I agree with you. The ability to “see” the potential is a valuable skill indeed – at least from the viewpoint of one who is stuck with having to operate within the framework of time.



My verbiage is maybe not so eloquent....but yes..to use the ability to alter, change the outcome. Since the outcome has infinite possibilities until "it" actually happens.

I am able to do this to a very tiny degree through astral travel...something I am working on as of late.


Fred Alan Wolf refers to this as "popping the quiff". I want to pop the quiff, and I also want to have that put on a t-shirt. happy

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Fri 09/04/09 07:44 PM
Edited by wux on Fri 09/04/09 07:58 PM

become invisible or make things invisible, or to do remote viewing, soul travel, seeing into the future, shape shifting, telepathy, time travel, etc.



I think I've done all or at least most of the things you mention here.

Becoming invisible: Since I turned 55, no woman ever notices me any more.

Making things invisible: The money left on the trays for the waiters, the money in a blind beggar's tray, an old woman's (mostly, my mother's) cigarettes, liqueur and old age pension cheque.

Remote viewing: TV is great for practicing this.

Soul travel: I usually take the soul train.

Seeing into the future: This is the easiest. I can tell you with a certainty of 4,556,324 chances in 4,556,325, (exuse my math, lets say ((forty nine factorial devided by six factorial and by forty-three factorial per forty-nine) minus one) chances in (forty nine factorial devided by six factorial and by forty-three factorial per forty-nine)) any set of six numbers numbered 1 to 49 and a bonus number that will not be a jackpot in the next lottery draw, or any future lottery draw.

Shape shifting: Slowly, but I have achieved this, too. From an accented deltoid-shape, a six pack, and bulging muscles and things, I have shifted my shape into more of that of an apple.

Telepathy: I use Bell Canada, for long distance I yuse yuk-yik, and soon I'm going to be able to televise my apathy over the Avitar. (What IS an avitar? this is not a trick question, I honestly don't know.)

Time travel: It's easy, too. I travel into the future at an even rate. And this is no joke.

ETC.: I do this too, very often.

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Fri 09/04/09 07:49 PM

We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".



Oops. Have you ever looked at a star? Any star? Or even the sun?

If you say yes, you'd be looking at the past, and you can't say that the past would become present.

I'll lick you in ornery any time, even with my tronery tied behind my back. :smile:

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Fri 09/04/09 07:52 PM







Becoming invisible: Since I turned 55, no woman ever notices me any more.





Does this mean I have to wait till I'm 55 before I can learn to become invisible?

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Fri 09/04/09 08:00 PM
Edited by wux on Fri 09/04/09 08:01 PM








Becoming invisible: Since I turned 55, no woman ever notices me any more.





Does this mean I have to wait till I'm 55 before I can learn to become invisible?


A female friend of mine, over 55, needless to say, told me that she read a book of fiction, crime fiction, in which a woman robs a bank, and she never gets caught, because she's 57 and nobody can give a description of her precise enough for the cops to go on. Because she was invisible in the way only a past-middle aged person can be, of course.

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Fri 09/04/09 08:04 PM









Becoming invisible: Since I turned 55, no woman ever notices me any more.





Does this mean I have to wait till I'm 55 before I can learn to become invisible?


A female friend of mine, over 55, needless to say, told me that she read a book of fiction, crime fiction, in which a woman robs a bank, and she never gets caught, because she's 57 and nobody can give a description of her precise enough for the cops to go on. Because she was invisible in the way only a past-middle aged person can be, of course.


I guess I have a few more years....

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Fri 09/04/09 08:06 PM
Look up

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/
SORRY I can't seem to highlight it.
PEAR - Princeton Engineering Anomolies Reasearch

Interesting information and no longer in existance as PEAR, BUT has continued as ICRL (International Consciousness Research Laboratories)

http://www.icrl.org/

Very interesting use of technology to research what we often call paranormal.

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Fri 09/04/09 08:11 PM
Pyrokinesis....so I could burn it all downdevil devil

laugh laugh I'm not a firebug, just playinglaugh laugh

I would be kinda cool though to start fires at will and I guess I'd want the opposite ability...I don't know what to call it, maybe "Cryokinesis"?laugh laugh

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Fri 09/04/09 08:17 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Fri 09/04/09 08:17 PM
We can only "see" the present. We only see "now". To "see" the future would make it not the future anymore. It would become the "present".
Oops. Have you ever looked at a star? Any star? Or even the sun?

If you say yes, you'd be looking at the past, and you can't say that the past would become present.

I'll lick you in ornery any time, even with my tronery tied behind my back. :smile:
What wonderful semantic tricks we can play with a language tha has the grammatical structure of English.

Good one my friend. You force me to come back with this.

You're not actually seeing the past. You're seeing the effects of the past. Which is really no different from looking at a photograph - and by the same logic, any physical object. So you might just as well say that you "looking into the past" when looking at your own nose.

Now of course you can go down that "relativistic" route and claim that even when looking at your nose, you are seeing the past, because it takes some amount of time fo the light to get from your nose to your eyeball.

But the reductio ad absurdum of that line of logic only leads to "you cannot see the present".

Is that what you're getting at?

If so, then the difference between that and my statement of "you can only see the present" is simply one of definition.

Ornery right back atcha. drinker

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