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Topic: Obama - How not to reach out to allies
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Sun 10/04/09 11:00 AM



"President Obama, I support the Americans' outstretched hand. But what did the international community gain from these offers of dialogue? Nothing." -- French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Sept. 24

WASHINGTON -- When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom.

In this article by Charles Krauthammer, a number of problems in our current foreign policy are exposed showing the naive at best and arguably simpleminded efforts of the current administration.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/02/obamas_french_lesson_98547.html


and what did the international community lose from the offers,,nothing?



The international community is like the slaves of the US . They help in both Iraq and Afghanistan for the US to establish permanent military bases, steal the oil and the resources of sovereign nations.....etc. Colin Powell used to ask for help, help and help while the US keeps on killing INNOCENT peole with no conscience whatsoever . The Democrats are following G.W. Bush and they let down the international community as a whole .

drinker

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Sun 10/04/09 11:05 AM



I think Clinton and the administration left a certain SURPLUS That bush had EIGHT years to capitalize on,,, so I think thats not an apples to apples comparison. We were in a mess when Obama took office and he has had only seven months.


We seem to be forgeting what happened several months into Bush's presidency. Does 9/11 ring a bell. I can't say I was into politics that much back then, But didn't put kind of a huge financial burrdon on our country?


touche,, much like healthcare might now.. but we must do what we must do.

Like you say might. I'm all for doing something with health care. I just don't think the way they are going about it is the right way. If they say that billions can be saved from fraud and other things with our current system then why don't they fix that first then with the money saved from that use it to do more?

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Sun 10/04/09 03:20 PM
i say we adopt the French single payer health care system which is the best ranked in the world in terms of medical outcomes and costs 50% less per capita than our system. that'll save us around 5% of GDP or $5 trillion annually which can be passed directly back to the taxpayer. seems like a no-brainer to me.

drinker

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Sun 10/04/09 04:18 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sun 10/04/09 04:20 PM



Unknown to the world, Obama had in his pocket explosive revelations about an illegal uranium enrichment facility that the Iranians had been hiding near Qom. The French and the British were urging him to use this most dramatic of settings to stun the world with the revelation and to call for immediate action.



No. He knew about it (ever since he was elected and he even said he knew about it before hand!) and so did everyone else about the place, it was just a media hysteria pumped up the news about it, because of the latest craziness of beating the war drums about Iran for years now and It's getting really tiring now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5Lm-1jBQE

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Sun 10/04/09 04:40 PM





I find it quite petty and trite the way the lefties on here piss and moan about the negativity towards the anointed one, but had no problems bashing bush 900 times a day. When the president does a bad job, the president does a bad job and should be called out on it.


Oh, I wasnt here when Bush was president. Did the bashing start in his first SIX months? The president doesnt work alone and it seems like this thread gets really personal and generally holds him accountable for things which were in place before he became president,,he is just painted as the REASON for the troubles instead of given the opportunity (more than seven months) to make an impact. anyhow,, i have a new topic,,,


GOOD NEWS....
Clintons initiative raises 8 billion dollars.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33027670/ns/us_news-giving/

now maybe we can hold about a dozen more of these to help us get out of debt.


No Bush got a good two yearsor more before he was being bashed. He did go to war with an innocent country and target an innocent leader to pay for 9/11 so he pushed things a bit I would say.

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