Topic: White House rejects Cheney's Afghanistan criticism
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Thu 10/22/09 04:47 PM
WASHINGTON – The White House on Thursday forcefully rejected criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney and other Republicans that President Barack Obama's Afghanistan decision is taking too long.

"What Vice President Cheney calls dithering, President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. "I think we've all seen what happens when somebody doesn't take that responsibility seriously."

Obama is nearing a decision on whether to significantly expand the U.S. war posture in Afghanistan by honoring a military request for thousands of additional forces. The decision had been expected as early as mid-August, when Obama's new war commander prepared a harsh assessment of deteriorating conditions in the 8-year-old conflict, and now is expected in what Gibbs calls "the coming weeks."

Obama is also weighing with his national security team whether to focus more narrowly on al-Qaida terrorists believed to be hiding in Pakistan.

Top commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal's still-secret troop request outlines three options — from as many as 80,000 more troops to as few as 10,000 — but favors a compromise of 40,000 more forces, officials have told The Associated Press. There now are 67,000 American troops in Afghanistan, and 1,000 more are headed there by the end of December.

The previous top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, submitted a request for more troops that went unfulfilled by former President George W. Bush. Obama partly granted that request in March when he ordered an additional 21,000 U.S. troops to go to Afghanistan this year.

Cheney said in a speech Wednesday night that Obama needs to "do what it takes to win" and that "signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries."

Taking a similar tack on Thursday, former GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich criticized the administration during a speech in Fort Worth, Texas, suggesting Obama has projected confusion onto the Afghanistan conflict in his public statements.

Gibbs said such comments were curious "given the fact that an increase in troops sat on desks in this White House, including the vice president's, for more than eight months, a resource request filled by President Obama in March."

Other Democrats chimed in to defend the president, despite opposition among congressional Democrats to a major expansion of the U.S. war effort.

"Republicans have developed a troubling pattern of blaming President Obama for trying to fix all the problems that they created," said Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., a member of the Armed Services Committee.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., also defended Obama, when asked about Cheney's criticism. "I think President Obama is entitled to take sufficient time to decide what our long-term role ought to be in Afghanistan," he said on MSNBC. "I want him to take the time to get it right."

Cheney had also taken issue with statements out of the White House that the Obama administration had to start from scratch to develop a strategy for a conflict begun in 2001, the first year of the Bush presidency.

The Bush administration presented to Obama's transition team the review of the Afghanistan war that it undertook just before leaving office and was asked to keep it under wraps, Cheney said. A White House spokesman, Tommy Vietor, later disputed that characterization and said the report was not kept under wraps.

Meanwhile, Obama worked Thursday on a strategy to prevent fraud from occurring in Afghanistan in its runoff presidential election set for Nov. 7.

In an hourlong videoconference from the White House Situation Room, Obama and other top advisers heard a briefing and recommendations from the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, Karl Eikenberry. Gibbs would not specify what steps the U.S. is taking with Afghanistan's Independent Election Commission to avoid the problems that marred the original election on Aug. 20.

President Hamid Karzai faces his main challenger, ex-Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah, in the runoff.

Obama is not necessarily going to put off his decision on whether to send more troops to Afghanistan until after the run-off election, as some — including Democratic Sen. John Kerry — have strongly suggested he do.

"It could be before the runoff. It might be after the runoff," Gibbs said.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday he will prod NATO allies this week for more economic and security aid to Afghanistan while trying to sidestep the debate over more troops.

NATO nations have supplied 36,000 troops, and NATO officials have signaled they won't ask their nations to send more until Obama makes a move.

Gates said there are enough other topics to discuss with NATO allies during a defense chiefs' gathering in Bratislava, Slovakia, this week.

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the allies must do more to enable Afghan forces to eventually assume responsibility for security in their country.

NATO currently has 59 training teams working with the Afghan army. Alliance officials say they need the allies to come up with nine more to fulfill present plans that call for an expansion of the Afghan forces from the present 94,000 to 134,000. But if a future expansion plan boosting the Afghan army to 400,000 troops is approved, NATO will need a total of 103 training teams on the ground.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091022/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_afghanistan


Dragoness's photo
Thu 10/22/09 04:49 PM
Obama does not take it as lightly as some seem to that people will die, I guess.

TJN's photo
Thu 10/22/09 04:52 PM

Obama does not take it as lightly as some seem to that people will die, I guess.

Isn't he putting those over there in more danger by not doing what his General asked for to implement Obama's strategy on the war?

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Thu 10/22/09 04:57 PM


Obama does not take it as lightly as some seem to that people will die, I guess.

Isn't he putting those over there in more danger by not doing what his General asked for to implement Obama's strategy on the war?


Obama's strategy?

Do you know more than everyone else does or something?

He hasn't even decided yet what to do there.

The danger of those who are there will be the same regardless to what decision he makes.

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Thu 10/22/09 05:04 PM
Who is it that really cares what Cheney has to say!

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 10/22/09 05:06 PM

Who is it that really cares what Cheney has to say!


He aint doing republicans any favors by opening his mouth, that's fo sure,laugh

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Thu 10/22/09 05:14 PM



Obama does not take it as lightly as some seem to that people will die, I guess.

Isn't he putting those over there in more danger by not doing what his General asked for to implement Obama's strategy on the war?


Obama's strategy?

Do you know more than everyone else does or something?

He hasn't even decided yet what to do there.

The danger of those who are there will be the same regardless to what decision he makes.

There has allways been a strategy. Otherwise no one would be over there. Obama hand picked Gen. McChrystal to implement it. It wasn't till he asked for more troops that Obama is now stalling on it.
If a commander in the field stalls on a decision soldiers die.

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Thu 10/22/09 05:44 PM
I could care less what pea brain Cheney has to say but I agree that Obama is taking way too long on this descision.He has had at least 3 months or more to make a choice and he seems to be farting around the globe wasting energy on every stupid idea but the ones that really matter.Come on Obama get off your dumb butt and get to work!

Winx's photo
Thu 10/22/09 06:11 PM
IMO, Cheney needs to stay out of it. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

If they had finished Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq in the first place, we wouldn't be having such a big problem now.

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Thu 10/22/09 06:13 PM
Cheney isn't a communist, so of course they reject what he says.

TJN's photo
Thu 10/22/09 06:40 PM

IMO, Cheney needs to stay out of it. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

If they had finished Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq in the first place, we wouldn't be having such a big problem now.


I get sick of hearing that. We are there and Obama needs to make a decision. When your General asks for more troops it's for a reason.
Obama needs to losten to him or pull the troops out!

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Thu 10/22/09 07:17 PM


IMO, Cheney needs to stay out of it. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

If they had finished Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq in the first place, we wouldn't be having such a big problem now.


I get sick of hearing that. We are there and Obama needs to make a decision. When your General asks for more troops it's for a reason.
Obama needs to losten to him or pull the troops out!


Cheney needs to stay out of it, IMO. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

Yes, Obama needs to make decision. I think it's worse if he rushed to do those difficult things.

TJN's photo
Thu 10/22/09 07:31 PM



IMO, Cheney needs to stay out of it. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

If they had finished Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq in the first place, we wouldn't be having such a big problem now.


I get sick of hearing that. We are there and Obama needs to make a decision. When your General asks for more troops it's for a reason.
Obama needs to losten to him or pull the troops out!


Cheney needs to stay out of it, IMO. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

Yes, Obama needs to make decision. I think it's worse if he rushed to do those difficult things.

Tell that to the soldiers over there that need the help.mad

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Thu 10/22/09 07:34 PM



IMO, Cheney needs to stay out of it. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

If they had finished Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq in the first place, we wouldn't be having such a big problem now.


I get sick of hearing that. We are there and Obama needs to make a decision. When your General asks for more troops it's for a reason.
Obama needs to losten to him or pull the troops out!


Cheney needs to stay out of it, IMO. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

Yes, Obama needs to make decision. I think it's worse if he rushed to do those difficult things.


Very convenient that Chaney and Bush don't recall their own stalls.

TJN's photo
Thu 10/22/09 07:38 PM




IMO, Cheney needs to stay out of it. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

If they had finished Afghanistan instead of going to Iraq in the first place, we wouldn't be having such a big problem now.


I get sick of hearing that. We are there and Obama needs to make a decision. When your General asks for more troops it's for a reason.
Obama needs to losten to him or pull the troops out!


Cheney needs to stay out of it, IMO. He didn't handle things well under the previous administration.

Yes, Obama needs to make decision. I think it's worse if he rushed to do those difficult things.


Very convenient that Chaney and Bush don't recall their own stalls.

noway This isn't about the past! This is now and something needs to be done! Obama needs to get off his thumb and become a Leader and make a decision. Just because he didn't like the answer his General gave him on what it would take to implement his strategy, doesn't mean take your time on how to change it now!