Topic: Texas Sovereignty Trampled by Homeland Security
Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:11 PM

Why not start by having us all take the doors off of our homes for anyone to walk through, since we are so global...?


Where does that even relate to being a global community?slaphead


msharmony's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:23 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 11/03/09 10:23 PM
I always hear that we should not have borders, and our front doors are just that borders. Individuals have ways to account for who comes in and out of their home but for some reason some of those same individuals dont understand why countries need to do the same.

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Tue 11/03/09 10:32 PM
Edited by saturn69 on Tue 11/03/09 10:33 PM
I choose not to live behind closed doors flowerforyou
My door is always open

Dragoness's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:34 PM

I always hear that we should not have borders, and our front doors are just that borders. Individuals have ways to account for who comes in and out of their home but for some reason some of those same individuals dont understand why countries need to do the same.


Still not a good enough analogy to fit the situation at all.

Our homes are our own property. The country is everyone's property and everyone includes people from other countries that own property here, spend time here, work here, etc... Some are legally here and some are not.

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:35 PM

I choose not to live behind closed doors flowerforyou
My door is always open


You are one of a few I think. I have children and though it would be nice to believe I live in a paradise where everyone is honest and safe,, I happen to know otherwise. I have doors on my house. If anyone comes in my home, I know who they are and why they are there. I wouldnt expect any country to be any less cautious.

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Tue 11/03/09 10:41 PM
Edited by saturn69 on Tue 11/03/09 10:44 PM
In a global society countries wouldn't matter.We would all be from Earth.Just because your from a different country that doesn't make you dangerous

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:45 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 11/03/09 10:47 PM

In a global society countries wouldn't matter.We would all be from Earth.




WE are all from Earth. But not all parts of earth have the same community culture, or laws, or demographics, or religions, or languages. I am American and just as much from earth as a french person but I dont expect them to just let me come in their country unchecked and unaccounted for.. that isnt realistic or safe. To try to have 6 billion people roaming around the globe as they choose would be chaos. People have to SETTLE somewhere, that somewhere is a place where the culture and law are something they are comfortable with. Wherever they settle is HOME and anyplace else is where they are visiting. AS visitors, their host needs to know they are there.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:48 PM

In a global society countries wouldn't matter.We would all be from Earth.Just because your from a different country that doesn't make you dangerous
:thumbsup: That is right.:thumbsup:We are all citizens of the same world:thumbsup:

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/03/09 10:49 PM

What does it matter which route they use? They will be right back here anyhow. Why not just make North America one continent? bigsmile :banana:
flowerforyou It will be eventuallyflowerforyou

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Tue 11/03/09 10:51 PM
As far as violent crimes I don't know of any country that allows them.Most foreign countries are way more strict on all that stuff.

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Tue 11/03/09 11:24 PM


Why not start by having us all take the doors off of our homes for anyone to walk through, since we are so global...?


Where does that even relate to being a global community?slaphead




Remember your double standard???

It's perfectly ok for them to come across our " invisible " border, but your property line ( which, by the way, is no less invisible than the border between countries ) is off limits??

If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/03/09 11:27 PM



Why not start by having us all take the doors off of our homes for anyone to walk through, since we are so global...?


Where does that even relate to being a global community?slaphead




Remember your double standard???

It's perfectly ok for them to come across our " invisible " border, but your property line ( which, by the way, is no less invisible than the border between countries ) is off limits??

If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.


Gosh, IM glad the occasional reader understands my analogies sometimes.....lol

thanx

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 11/03/09 11:28 PM

As far as violent crimes I don't know of any country that allows them.Most foreign countries are way more strict on all that stuff.


with all due respect...shouldn't this country be able to enforce the laws as well? there are a lot of countries (including Mexico) have stricter immigration laws than here. Should we not be allowed to enforce our immigration laws?

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/03/09 11:42 PM



Why not start by having us all take the doors off of our homes for anyone to walk through, since we are so global...?


Where does that even relate to being a global community?slaphead




Remember your double standard???

It's perfectly ok for them to come across our " invisible " border, but your property line ( which, by the way, is no less invisible than the border between countries ) is off limits??

If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.
laugh No.laugh We are refering to an organized society.:smile: One country with laws.:smile: Shared laws:smile:

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Tue 11/03/09 11:43 PM
Edited by saturn69 on Tue 11/03/09 11:44 PM
(this should say quote)
If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.
(end quote)


The phrase "what comes around goes around"comes to mind
Didn't early Americans "come and take"this land from Mexicans and American indians?

pay back is a bi**h

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 11/03/09 11:47 PM

(this should say quote)
If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.
(end quote)


The phrase "what comes around goes around"comes to mind
Didn't early Americans "come and take"this land from Mexicans and American indians?

pay back is a bi**h


technically it was the English that had colonies here before the revolution. Texas had Spanish, French and Mexican flags flying over it before it became a republic

EquusDancer's photo
Wed 11/04/09 01:04 AM


(this should say quote)
If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.
(end quote)


The phrase "what comes around goes around"comes to mind
Didn't early Americans "come and take"this land from Mexicans and American indians?

pay back is a bi**h


technically it was the English that had colonies here before the revolution. Texas had Spanish, French and Mexican flags flying over it before it became a republic


And gosh, but didn't it all get sold to the US? Selling means transfer of funds. How is that stolen?

Perry is a twit. I hope Hutchinson gets the run-off for the governors race.

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Wed 11/04/09 09:03 AM



Texas Says No To Transport Of Illegal Aliens Through Presidio
Source: Governor of Texas

Posted on: 2nd November 2009

Plan would move illegal aliens apprehended in other states through Presidio

Gov. Rick Perry today sent a letter to U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano urging the federal government to stop its plans to transport illegal aliens from other states into Texas solely for the purpose of deportation.

The Alien Transfer and Exit Program (ATEP), which is scheduled to begin tomorrow, would transport more than 34,000 illegal aliens per year through Presidio.

“Turning the Presidio area into a way station for the repatriation of illegal immigrants adds responsibility to local authorities and holds the potential of increasing the strain on local and state infrastructure and resources,” Gov. Perry said. “This plan will increase the likelihood that these individuals will immediately cross back into Texas, which is already bearing an uneven burden in dealing with immigration and border security issues along the Texas-Mexico border.”

Gov. Perry noted this program is a result of the federal government’s continued lack of an effective strategy for dealing with border security.

“Texas is proud of its working relationship with the United States Border Patrol, and we have invested significant state resources to assist them in their worthy efforts. We will continue to request that the federal government send the adequate resources necessary to effectively secure the southern border,” Gov. Perry said.

Since January, Gov. Perry has repeatedly urged the federal government, through letters to President Barack Obama, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, to approve his request for 1,000 Title 32 National Guardsmen to support civilian law enforcement efforts to enhance border security in Texas.

A porous border places Texas and the nation at risk from international terrorists, organized crime cartels and transnational gangs. Until the federal government fulfills its responsibility of securing our border, Texas will continue filling in the gaps by putting more boots on the ground, providing increased law enforcement resources and leveraging technology along the border.

In the absence of adequate federal resources to secure the state’s southern border, Gov. Perry recently announced the state’s latest border security enhancement using highly-skilled Ranger Reconnaissance (Ranger Recon) Teams to address the ever evolving threat along the Texas-Mexico border. Additionally, under the governor’s leadership and thanks to action taken by the Legislature, the state has dedicated more than $110 million to border security efforts in each of the last two legislative sessions.

To view the governor’s letter to Secretary Napolitano please visi
Attached File: Gov. Perry’s Letter to Secretary Napolitano



http://thegovmonitor.com/world_news/united_states/texas-says-no-to-transport-of-illegal-aliens-through-presidio-13254.html

http://governor.state.tx.us/files/press-office/NapolitanoJanet200910310000.pdf

Why can't those illegals be deported back the way they came? Why does Homeland Security need to bus these people (34,000 per year) half way across the continent just to drop them off in a place where it's certain they will cross again into the State of Texas?

Where does the Federal Government derive the authority to shift the illegal immigration problems of other states to the back porch of another state?



This is actually hilarious.

They are busing illegals out of our country WHICH IS WHAT THE HATEFILLED RIGHTWINGERS HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT SINCE I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN and now you want to ***** about The PATH THEY USE TO DEPORT ALL THESE (BY THE HATEFILLED RIGHTWINGERS STANCE TERRIBLE CRIMINALS) (NOT TRUE BY THE WAY) PEOPLE OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!

Talk about hypocrital b-ulls-hit


I don't object to their being deported. I'm all for that. What I object to is our federal government amassing an army of illegals on the Texas Border. Where do you think they're going to go? back home? not a chance.. the town of Presidio is a tiny tiny community, a little over 4,000 people.. and the US Federal Government is going to completely overrun that town with illegals.

If Mexico did this, it would be tantamount to an act of war.

But your beloved One does it and you find no fault in it..

Deport them.. fine. good. please do.. but if you catch them in California, take them back across in California.. Catch them in Kanasas? take 'em all the way to Yucitan

You want to emmigrate to the US? Good.. we're happy to have you so long as you do it legally.. WE have emmbassies in nearly every country around the globe.. go there, apply for a visa. do it legally.

Just because you come from Mexico, it doesn't mean you're entitled to a cut in line..

JustAGuy2112's photo
Wed 11/04/09 08:55 PM




Why not start by having us all take the doors off of our homes for anyone to walk through, since we are so global...?


Where does that even relate to being a global community?slaphead




Remember your double standard???

It's perfectly ok for them to come across our " invisible " border, but your property line ( which, by the way, is no less invisible than the border between countries ) is off limits??

If we're gonna be a " global " community...then every border, property line etc should be erased and everyone's property should be fair game for whoever wants to come and take it.


Gosh, IM glad the occasional reader understands my analogies sometimes.....lol

thanx


Seemed to be perfectly easy to understand to me...lol

You're welcome. :-)

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Wed 11/04/09 09:16 PM




More Americans kill,rape,ect,Americans than illegals do.


but the Americans are not illegal. We cannot deport them, we sure as heck can deport the criminals back to their own Country, but seal our borders first.


Oh I do hope you run for Congress one day! flowerforyou


That is a scary thoughtsurprised surprised surprised surprised surprised shocked scared


what's scary are left wingers are clueless that our government screwing our country as we speak.