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Topic: %&#@ Windows 7!
AndrewAV's photo
Sun 12/06/09 08:03 PM
Ok, I've been having pretty good luck with this OS over the last week. However, this weekend has not been so kind. I've so far crashed half a dozen apps on more than one occasion and received my second BSOD today. I'm raging pissed.

Failed so far...
*Photoshop CS (more times than I can count)
*Illustrator CS
*Adobe Lightroom
*Word 2007 (three times now... and autosave is not worth a damn I found out)
*IE8 crashes on a regular basis since I did that last security update
*Even in My Computer it crashes!

Not to mention that I am occasionally getting the BLACK screen of death where it does not load my desktop and I have to ghetto my way to getting one and load it all manually.

I'm so done with all this crap. I never had any of these issues on XP and I'm going back as soon as all my assignments are done and I can find my external CD drive... unless someone knows how to install XP from a usb stick or external hd. i'm all ears.

Jill298's photo
Sun 12/06/09 08:05 PM
<---- paid EXTRA for my "downgrade" to get XP put on my new laptop laugh so worth it.

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Sun 12/06/09 08:21 PM
Honestly, i actually like windows 7. It works really well, boots really quick. I used windows 2000, xp , vista, linux and windows 7 has been very stable, and suprisingly its very compatible with all my old hardware, unlike vista, which didnt had drivers for my printers, motherboard etc. I do feel you tho, maybe is a hard ware problem, maybe its heating up? or a resistor on your motherboard blew, and its acting up, try re-seating your ram and unplugging your cables inside the computer. After you do that, save all your work and re-install windows. Is easy to bash an O/S , but its better to sit down and look at the issue, and check one by one what the issue is. If you need further help, just let me know, i can research with you, and get this problem fix.

Miguel

AndrewAV's photo
Sun 12/06/09 09:03 PM

Honestly, i actually like windows 7. It works really well, boots really quick. I used windows 2000, xp , vista, linux and windows 7 has been very stable, and suprisingly its very compatible with all my old hardware, unlike vista, which didnt had drivers for my printers, motherboard etc. I do feel you tho, maybe is a hard ware problem, maybe its heating up? or a resistor on your motherboard blew, and its acting up, try re-seating your ram and unplugging your cables inside the computer. After you do that, save all your work and re-install windows. Is easy to bash an O/S , but its better to sit down and look at the issue, and check one by one what the issue is. If you need further help, just let me know, i can research with you, and get this problem fix.

Miguel


This is on two systems and one is a very capable system that I use for nothing but photo editing and maintenance. I figured, what the hell because I know the system is up for it. The other is my netbook. both ran XP like a champ and now I have to backup a terabyte of data and reload my photo editing desktop because it's crashing photoshop all the time. I really need to update my server, but it's only got 500MB of space and it's setup for LAMP stuff. When I get around to it, I'll have a 4TB server that is setup to do both web and file storage.

centered's photo
Sun 12/06/09 09:03 PM
Edited by centered on Sun 12/06/09 09:20 PM
Failed so far...


I'm not surprised.

I don't own/use a M$ operating system - My laptop
is a Macbook Pro and my desktops/servers run Linux.

I gave up on any M$ operating system loooong ago.

AndrewAV's photo
Sun 12/06/09 09:28 PM

Failed so far...


I'm not surprised.

I don't own/use a M$ operating system - My laptop
is a Macbook Pro and my desktops/servers run Linux.

I gave up on any M$ operating system loooong ago.


XP was great and 7 looked promising, but it's just not ready yet. i guess i shouldn't be that surprised. I waited until SP1 before I got onto the XP bandwagon.

My next computer will be Mac through no choice of my own. I get one through school and I'll actually get a chance to use one daily now - before it was just fixing them when they break. Who knows, maybe I'll convert lol.

PacificStar48's photo
Sun 12/06/09 11:56 PM
Sorry you are having hard time with Windows 7 but kind of glad that I am not the only one that thinks it is way harder than XP.

BonnyMiss's photo
Mon 12/07/09 07:55 AM
Oooooops!! I just acquired Windows 7 this past week and was looking forward to exploring it. I swapped Vista for W7 because I was tired of Vista and because my Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro,Photoimpact and other programmes did not work. Please do not tell me I just bought a pig in a poke! grumble

AndrewAV's photo
Mon 12/07/09 09:14 AM

Oooooops!! I just acquired Windows 7 this past week and was looking forward to exploring it. I swapped Vista for W7 because I was tired of Vista and because my Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro,Photoimpact and other programmes did not work. Please do not tell me I just bought a pig in a poke! grumble


It's far better than Vista ever was so if you're coming from there, it may not seem so bad. I just don't need all the frills and crap that they put in to make it more "user friendly" and visually pleasing - I prefer the solid base that was XP. I mean, XP was the first version of windows I never found myself reloading every six months. Once I added Deep Freeze and started putting all my files on a server or portable drive, it was always rediculous fast, even on my netbook running AI, Photoshop, and Dreamweaver at the same time.... with a 1.6 processor and 1GB ram.

PacificStar48's photo
Mon 12/07/09 03:22 PM

Oooooops!! I just acquired Windows 7 this past week and was looking forward to exploring it. I swapped Vista for W7 because I was tired of Vista and because my Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro,Photoimpact and other programmes did not work. Please do not tell me I just bought a pig in a poke! grumble


I think that is what I did buying my Acer. The screen is so hard to read it is ridiculous. Put and "eye" to make it look like there is a camera and there isn't. I am really bummed.

Atlantis75's photo
Mon 12/07/09 09:46 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Mon 12/07/09 10:09 PM
I was a tester for both Vista and Win 7.

for Vista ~ and I had a fairly brand new system, all put together by me but at that time it was top of the line..talking about 3 gigs of memory..core 2 quad Intel and 300 dollar graphics card and Audigy 4 XiFi sound card...

So I had (still have)3 hard drives set up and one was dedicated only for Vista..and from the first go..it was crap.

Nothing was recognized..no sound..crap graphics..but of course beta versions don't have a good support and so on, but I was still dissatisfied with the amount of hard drive space it uses and the amount of time it accesses and the running services tripled since XP for not much of reason at all..

I used it like maybe 3 times a week I booted into..but I already wrote back to Bill Gates Empire that they are taking the wroooong way with this..it's crap..and not because of the hardware support, but just way up from the foundation.the source code, the core engine sux balls.....you will be outmatched by Linux or OSX if you don't watch it..keep making this overloaded, over bloated, heavy overhead clunker speed Vista.


So anyway, I also tested Win 7. My first impression was like...crap..this can't be it.these people are kidding me..they gave me the wrong beta or something...this is pretty much a stripped down version of Vista, and it does run faster, but still..it's a stripped down Vista with some additions..to make it more appealing and more hardware support.
Used it for a year...I said "It is better than Vista, yes. " Is it an improvement?
Security - yes.. more idiot proof - yes. better hardware support - yes. Better software support - NO. I can't even get adobe acrobat work right sometimes and my Sony Vegas video editor just stops working on me..don't know why..but it has to do with incompatibility with Win7..even though it worked in Vista..but still not as good as XP.

So is Win7 better than Vista? Yes. Better than XP..at some places.

The Main point is:

going from xp to vista and to win7 is like 3 steps backward, and then 1 step forward.

Basically Micro$oft went the wrong direction after XP...why do they always try to copy OSX, like they did with Win95..I don't know, no original ideas...Win7 is a strange mix of Vista and Linux wannabe..but only on the outside....didn't really correct the change beside patched the Vista up and we basically do not have a new operating system, but a repaired Vista.

We are finally have arrived to 2006 (in 2009!!) with Win7 after being lost in a weird dimension with Vista.

We are still behind 3 years...where we should be by now..all that wasted money on these mediocre operating systems.. hell I'm still saying that MS-DOS was the best and fastest one out there.

I figure, some understand what I'm saying...others might not.

And yes I got them all free...they were beta, but to tell you the truth..having Vista now..it's only inches better than the Beta I tested and seeing the full release Win7 and comparing it to what I tested a year ago, it's the same damn thing. Basically they improved the hardware support (but that's NOT for microsoft's credit) and everything else stayed the same in it (like the Beta versions, which are supposed to be skeletons/unfinished products). I'm not kidding.

Atlantis75's photo
Mon 12/07/09 10:18 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Mon 12/07/09 10:40 PM


Failed so far...


I'm not surprised.

I don't own/use a M$ operating system - My laptop
is a Macbook Pro and my desktops/servers run Linux.

I gave up on any M$ operating system loooong ago.


XP was great and 7 looked promising, but it's just not ready yet. i guess i shouldn't be that surprised. I waited until SP1 before I got onto the XP bandwagon.

My next computer will be Mac through no choice of my own. I get one through school and I'll actually get a chance to use one daily now - before it was just fixing them when they break. Who knows, maybe I'll convert lol.


I learned pretty much everything on Mac OS9. That's all they had in my school..pretty liberal lol...but hey it's New England...

They made a good choice back then.. In 1994 I was doing my essays on an "Apple"...on my floppy disk..and then of course I bought a Mac Magazine and I was flying Super Hornet Mac , when they didn't see me..

And then I bought an IBM for home...LOL.. trust me, when I saw Windows 3.1.sick ill .and that supposed to be an OS ...compared to OS9... Win 3.1 looked like puke on the screen.

Then I got used to it..then came Win 95..and I'm like..yeah..this is like OS9 I used back in the day, but worse. LOL.

rofl

I'm no big mac fan, but I do recognize that they come up with original ideas (and MS try to copy everything), although I do have a Powerbook G4 I got for free ..right behind me, but the poor thing has a line across the lcd screen and it's hard to read, but works like a charm with OSX 10.4 on it. I take it with me if I go to a long trip..use it to upload my pictures on it from my camera.

Kravin's photo
Mon 12/07/09 11:03 PM

Ok, I've been having pretty good luck with this OS over the last week. However, this weekend has not been so kind. I've so far crashed half a dozen apps on more than one occasion and received my second BSOD today. I'm raging pissed.

Failed so far...
*Photoshop CS (more times than I can count)
*Illustrator CS
*Adobe Lightroom
*Word 2007 (three times now... and autosave is not worth a damn I found out)
*IE8 crashes on a regular basis since I did that last security update
*Even in My Computer it crashes!

Not to mention that I am occasionally getting the BLACK screen of death where it does not load my desktop and I have to ghetto my way to getting one and load it all manually.

I'm so done with all this crap. I never had any of these issues on XP and I'm going back as soon as all my assignments are done and I can find my external CD drive... unless someone knows how to install XP from a usb stick or external hd. i'm all ears.


Adobe software has problems in 7. I had the same problem. Best thing to do is right click on the shortcut, click on "Troubleshoot compatibility" and go through the steps. I did that and now my programs run like a charm. The other problems I haven't experienced. I can suggest though to ditch IE and get Firefox.

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Mon 12/07/09 11:22 PM
I've had Windows 7 on my laptop for a little over a week now. There are a couple things I don't like on it that it does and it seems to feel more resource demanding, but it's holding it's own. Luckily I haven't installed any of those updates which one gives the black screen of death.

BonnyMiss's photo
Mon 12/07/09 11:57 PM
I give up!!!! It has now been 24 hours that I have tried to get Paint Shop Pro 7 - 11 to work on Windows 7.............. What a total waste of time!!! First, I loaded PSP7, when that did not work I uninstalled it and tried the others, same problems, but it intensified with each version, now that I have PSP 11 installed it is not running my scripts. I have saved my scripts on my hard drive but it isn't showing up in PSP! I've never had this problem with XP. I have come to a decision, I am going back to XP!

AndrewAV's photo
Tue 12/08/09 10:41 AM

I've had Windows 7 on my laptop for a little over a week now. There are a couple things I don't like on it that it does and it seems to feel more resource demanding, but it's holding it's own. Luckily I haven't installed any of those updates which one gives the black screen of death.



yeah, it's the most recent security update. avoid it until they fix the problem.

no photo
Tue 12/08/09 10:53 AM
Windows 7 is alright. One little thing bugs me, though. I can't seem to turn off the preview pane on the task bar.

no photo
Tue 12/08/09 12:40 PM


I've had Windows 7 on my laptop for a little over a week now. There are a couple things I don't like on it that it does and it seems to feel more resource demanding, but it's holding it's own. Luckily I haven't installed any of those updates which one gives the black screen of death.



yeah, it's the most recent security update. avoid it until they fix the problem.
From what I've gathered from reading threads from fellow members, don't touch any updates since all they do is waste hard drive space for the most part. I'm just glad you can disable Windows Updates.

no photo
Tue 12/08/09 08:25 PM
Thank you Linux-based operating systems!!!

Microsoft had us on a 'mandatory upgrade' cycle for over a decade (and intel loved it)... maybe two. Consumers and developers had little choice, they were forced to upgrade our ram, get faster processors, just to run a modern OS. The day that ASUS released a low powered linux laptop (later called a netbook) for mass consumption has really changed things. Without the netbook revolution, MS would not have taken the steps they've taken to optimize W7 for speed. Without the threat of Linux-based netbooks, MS would not have extended their support for XP.


no photo
Tue 12/08/09 08:28 PM
Personally, i think W7 will be the next XP. MS is under attack on several fronts, the must make W7 reliable and stable - and they will.


Any of the problems people are having in this thread which are truly due to the OS, will be fixed in the OS..... eventually.

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