Topic: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
CatsLoveMe's photo
Wed 12/09/09 11:18 PM
Sun Tzu was once quoted for saying this.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."

What the frack does this mean? I have also heard "kill them with kindness." If someone is your enemy, why do they even deserve an ounce of kindness. The whole thing just doesn't make sense. I can understand knowing your enemy, but loving them, it just doesn't make any logical sense.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/09/09 11:39 PM

Sun Tzu was once quoted for saying this.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."

What the frack does this mean? I have also heard "kill them with kindness." If someone is your enemy, why do they even deserve an ounce of kindness. The whole thing just doesn't make sense. I can understand knowing your enemy, but loving them, it just doesn't make any logical sense.
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msharmony's photo
Wed 12/09/09 11:42 PM

Sun Tzu was once quoted for saying this.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."

What the frack does this mean? I have also heard "kill them with kindness." If someone is your enemy, why do they even deserve an ounce of kindness. The whole thing just doesn't make sense. I can understand knowing your enemy, but loving them, it just doesn't make any logical sense.



I dont always get the art of war type quotes but I do know about killing them with kindness. The point of it is that the 'enemy'(word which I dont care for but will use for the sake of argument) wants to engage you in some type of battle so they can win the battle. But if you choose not to engage in the battle with them,they dont get the opportunity to feel as if they won. The Battle I refer to is not one fought physically though. It is mostly meant to be used in verbal situations.

tjer1l's photo
Thu 12/10/09 05:33 AM
you need to study his whole philosophy, trying to grasp one saying without understanding it's roots won't work

TexasScoundrel's photo
Thu 12/10/09 08:17 AM
Edited by TexasScoundrel on Thu 12/10/09 08:18 AM
During WWII Patton read a book about tank strategy written by Rommel. George knew his enemy.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 12/10/09 08:21 AM

you need to study his whole philosophy, trying to grasp one saying without understanding it's roots won't work


exactly

its like people who lift sentences from the bible and use them out of context

CatsLoveMe's photo
Thu 12/10/09 12:06 PM
I'll put it in a context, the "social" aspect of it. Whether it be online, at work, or in your town. There are some people that have enemies. Often these ememies did it to themselves, or something you did intentionally or unintentionally turned them into one. I prefer to cut the B.S. and keep my distance rather then try to make friends with them or antagonize them further. We also heard this expression, "keep your friends close..." during the presidential campaign when news anchors were referring to Barack choosing Hillary to campaign for him and then selecting her as Sec of State after he won.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/10/09 12:23 PM

I'll put it in a context, the "social" aspect of it. Whether it be online, at work, or in your town. There are some people that have enemies. Often these ememies did it to themselves, or something you did intentionally or unintentionally turned them into one. I prefer to cut the B.S. and keep my distance rather then try to make friends with them or antagonize them further. We also heard this expression, "keep your friends close..." during the presidential campaign when news anchors were referring to Barack choosing Hillary to campaign for him and then selecting her as Sec of State after he won.



I perceive it as the difference in how we define 'enemy'. In politics , there are rarely true enemies so much as people with opposing views. WHen it comes to those with similar views,,they will naturally be close to you. Those with opposing views may need coaxing but they are just as valuable an ally in trying to make progress and come to some type of compromise.

TexasScoundrel's photo
Sat 12/12/09 03:33 PM
If you don't trust someone, but still have to deal with them, keep them near. Watch them and try to understand how they think.

Keep an eye on anyone that may want to hurt you.

CatsLoveMe's photo
Sun 12/13/09 01:41 AM
I see, if they pose a real threat to you, then it is better to observe and be vigilant, but if they are a nuisance or annoyance, it is better to ignore them and avoid them.