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Topic: Choosing Our Battles
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Tue 12/22/09 09:02 PM
Taking into much helium can give one the rise into disreality and high pitched misnomers when it comes back out, as if a hot air balloon ... :tongue:

seamac's photo
Wed 12/23/09 12:16 PM


I have a rug outside my shower and a towel hung on the shower rod when wet and folded over the edge of shower when dry. I use the towel to keep the rug from getting wet! Maybe I need help....

Lady, Glad you gave up so long ago...the big bathroom battle with my son was trying to get him to stop leaving his wet towel in a heap on the floor...


when I was a kid, my mom had a technique for that

if I left a wet towel in the bathroom floor

she would put it in my bed so when I turned back the covers to go to bed there was a wet musty towel there and I had to sleep on damp smelly sheets

she only had to do that two times and I never left a towel in the floor again

if I left dirty dishes in the kitchen she did the same thing with them.



Well what I did was to take all towels away - he had to drip dry. Twice and the problem was solved! I did the dishes in the bed thing too...but then I was an evil step mom!!!

Anton_k's photo
Wed 12/23/09 03:27 PM



I have a rug outside my shower and a towel hung on the shower rod when wet and folded over the edge of shower when dry. I use the towel to keep the rug from getting wet! Maybe I need help....

Lady, Glad you gave up so long ago...the big bathroom battle with my son was trying to get him to stop leaving his wet towel in a heap on the floor...


when I was a kid, my mom had a technique for that

if I left a wet towel in the bathroom floor

she would put it in my bed so when I turned back the covers to go to bed there was a wet musty towel there and I had to sleep on damp smelly sheets

she only had to do that two times and I never left a towel in the floor again

if I left dirty dishes in the kitchen she did the same thing with them.



Well what I did was to take all towels away - he had to drip dry. Twice and the problem was solved! I did the dishes in the bed thing too...but then I was an evil step mom!!!


let's hear it for all the EVIL step parents..i can relatedrinker bigsmile :banana: :banana:

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/23/09 04:02 PM

Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.

Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 12/23/09 05:29 PM


Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...

seamac's photo
Wed 12/23/09 05:33 PM
Edited by seamac on Wed 12/23/09 05:35 PM




I have a rug outside my shower and a towel hung on the shower rod when wet and folded over the edge of shower when dry. I use the towel to keep the rug from getting wet! Maybe I need help....

Lady, Glad you gave up so long ago...the big bathroom battle with my son was trying to get him to stop leaving his wet towel in a heap on the floor...


when I was a kid, my mom had a technique for that

if I left a wet towel in the bathroom floor

she would put it in my bed so when I turned back the covers to go to bed there was a wet musty towel there and I had to sleep on damp smelly sheets

she only had to do that two times and I never left a towel in the floor again

if I left dirty dishes in the kitchen she did the same thing with them.



Well what I did was to take all towels away - he had to drip dry. Twice and the problem was solved! I did the dishes in the bed thing too...but then I was an evil step mom!!!


let's hear it for all the EVIL step parents..i can relatedrinker bigsmile :banana: :banana:



Oh in some minds I was soooo evil!!! Long story, often told!

seamac's photo
Wed 12/23/09 05:36 PM



Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????

Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 12/23/09 06:58 PM




Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????


Yeah, I am wondering myself..my dad use to use no dinner as punishment. That is pretty old school for sure...I think these days it would be child abuse...of course that is just my opinion, as far as the laws I don't know.

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Wed 12/23/09 07:00 PM





Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????


Yeah, I am wondering myself..my dad use to use no dinner as punishment. That is pretty old school for sure...I think these days it would be child abuse...of course that is just my opinion, as far as the laws I don't know.


Agreed ... if that be the content's import ... Im far past truly appalled!

Ladylid2012's photo
Wed 12/23/09 08:46 PM
yeah...I was hoping for some clarification on this...if not cooking for him as a means well....wouldn't affect my boys as they do most of the cooking anyway. I'm wanting to know if this is actually depriving food as a means of punishment.. gawd I hope not.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/24/09 01:52 AM



Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...



Absolutely, If I am gonna buy it and cook it, he is gonna contribute by cleaning it. We work as a unit in our family and everyone is expected to contribute. He doesnt hold up his end, I dont cook. He is free to cook for himself though(but at some point he will have to wash a dish to do it).

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/24/09 01:52 AM



Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...



Absolutely, If I am gonna buy it and cook it, he is gonna contribute by cleaning it. We work as a unit in our family and everyone is expected to contribute. He doesnt hold up his end, I dont cook. He is free to cook for himself though(but at some point he will have to wash a dish to do it).

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/24/09 01:54 AM





Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????


Yeah, I am wondering myself..my dad use to use no dinner as punishment. That is pretty old school for sure...I think these days it would be child abuse...of course that is just my opinion, as far as the laws I don't know.


It is far from child abuse. I didnt say I didnt supply food in the house, I just said I didnt cook it. HE is well old enough to cook his own food if he gets hungry, and to clean his own dishes.

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 12/24/09 02:05 AM






Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????


Yeah, I am wondering myself..my dad use to use no dinner as punishment. That is pretty old school for sure...I think these days it would be child abuse...of course that is just my opinion, as far as the laws I don't know.


It is far from child abuse. I didnt say I didnt supply food in the house, I just said I didnt cook it. HE is well old enough to cook his own food if he gets hungry, and to clean his own dishes.


If you read the posts then you see that what I, we were asking is if you with held food..and that it would be considered abuse these days. No one said having him cook for himself was abuse...
My boys cook for themselves and clean up. Nothing wrong with that...
Thank you for the clarification..the verbiage you used left it unclear.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/24/09 02:08 AM







Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????


Yeah, I am wondering myself..my dad use to use no dinner as punishment. That is pretty old school for sure...I think these days it would be child abuse...of course that is just my opinion, as far as the laws I don't know.


It is far from child abuse. I didnt say I didnt supply food in the house, I just said I didnt cook it. HE is well old enough to cook his own food if he gets hungry, and to clean his own dishes.


If you read the posts then you see that what I, we were asking is if you with held food..and that it would be considered abuse these days. No one said having him cook for himself was abuse...
My boys cook for themselves and clean up. Nothing wrong with that...
Thank you for the clarification..the verbiage you used left it unclear.


Always a pleasure,, never a problem.

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 12/24/09 02:15 AM








Sorry, I am hard headed.
Can't follow my rules in my house, can't shower here.
My son agrees with this NOW, when he was young we had issues.
Now he tells his children same thing I told him.
"Do it, or you WILL regret it."
Never beat him, lots of ways to get people's attention & making them WANT to remember.


I agree, except that corporal punishment is a staple in my family. Basically, my house my rules. My son was the same way about dishes. Couldnt get him to do them. Is he a great kid with great grades?.yes

But I still feel he needs to follow the rules.He has a younger sister and she watches his example so for him to disregard a rule sets the wrong idea in her head. It was when we stopped cooking for my son that he finally started to wash dishes. I think the same method would apply to the bathroom, the smaller the rule , the simpler it is for him to do it and the less respect it would be showing for him not to do it. No clean the bathroom, including replacing the curtain in the shower,,,no showering. I think a few days of stinky would quickly change his mind

As to the original idea of the thread though, picking battles is definitely a part of parenting. I do it with my toddler because she is still learning and I dont expect nearly as much out of her as I do my teen.


You stopped cooking for your son..what do you mean by that? Did you use food as a way to get him to do the dishes, as in taking food from him? Just wondering if I'm understanding you correctly...




yes I am wondering the same thing - you with held food as a teaching method????


Yeah, I am wondering myself..my dad use to use no dinner as punishment. That is pretty old school for sure...I think these days it would be child abuse...of course that is just my opinion, as far as the laws I don't know.


It is far from child abuse. I didnt say I didnt supply food in the house, I just said I didnt cook it. HE is well old enough to cook his own food if he gets hungry, and to clean his own dishes.


If you read the posts then you see that what I, we were asking is if you with held food..and that it would be considered abuse these days. No one said having him cook for himself was abuse...
My boys cook for themselves and clean up. Nothing wrong with that...
Thank you for the clarification..the verbiage you used left it unclear.


Always a pleasure,, never a problem.


Well nice way to say it..it's never a problem on my end either, sometimes maybe not so pleasant..

flowerforyou flowerforyou


sparkey01's photo
Thu 12/24/09 02:47 AM
I had the same issue with my son at home with picking up. When he grew up and got his own place, I noticed everything was nice and neat. I asked how come he didn't do the same when he lived at home. His answer: didn't have to, you always did! frustrated All this time I thought what a mess he would be living in when he got his own place. :laughing:

Anton_k's photo
Thu 12/24/09 04:56 AM

I had the same issue with my son at home with picking up. When he grew up and got his own place, I noticed everything was nice and neat. I asked how come he didn't do the same when he lived at home. His answer: didn't have to, you always did! frustrated All this time I thought what a mess he would be living in when he got his own place. :laughing:


isn't it amazing how things change once they are on their own.. it seems the life lessons just kick in....sometimes ..bigsmile

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