Topic: Fahrenheit 9/11' The #1 Film of the decade
Atlantis75's photo
Sun 12/27/09 04:52 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sun 12/27/09 04:54 PM
* 1 Fahrenheit 9/11

Michael Moore, 2004, £8.80: It may not have been the best film of the decade. It may not have been the best film Moore has made (that honour still belongs to 1989’s Roger and Me). Nevertheless, it’s hard to overstate the importance of this film, a modestly funded political documentary that was shunned by its Disney backers but went on to win the Palme d’Or at Cannes, coin more than $220 million around the world, and boost the emergence of politically liberal, agenda-driven multiplex fare such as Supersize Me and An Inconvenient Truth.

A speculation: might the accessible and populist fashion in which it marshalled its denunciation of George Bush’s 2000 “electoral theft”, to say nothing of the scorn it poured on American neo-conservative support for the “War on Terror”, have helped create or at least re-identify a large chunk of the non-traditional constituencies who were later tapped successfully by the Obama campaign team?

Criticism that Moore played fast and loose with his facts misses the point. He’s an old-fashioned circus barker. He trades in passion not science. But these days, when Tony Blair gets dubbed a “war criminal” and when the US economy is still ailing after the trillions squandered in the Middle East, the questions he asks look like patriotism rather than treachery.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/6501160/Top-100-movies-defining-the-noughties-00s-in-film.html


I have this movie, if you never watched it, I feel sorry for you.

here is the preview of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zf2nCiBJLo

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 12/27/09 05:03 PM
eh, I like him...and all he's done. I haven't seen the newest one yet..
I will. People hate him...at least he gets us thinking. Instead of stupid a$$ end of the world movies..

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/27/09 05:05 PM
I like mike too

Atlantis75's photo
Sun 12/27/09 05:09 PM

eh, I like him...and all he's done. I haven't seen the newest one yet..
I will. People hate him...at least he gets us thinking. Instead of stupid a$$ end of the world movies..


“The first reaction to truth is hatred”

--Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus 220 AD.


“Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.”

--Albert Einstein





Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 12/27/09 05:40 PM
hatred + not thinking = fear

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Sun 12/27/09 05:44 PM



The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!

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Sun 12/27/09 05:47 PM




The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.

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Sun 12/27/09 06:00 PM





The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


The main problem with Moore is this.

He may be trying to " inform " people, but doing so by taking artistic license with the facts isn't really informing people.

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Sun 12/27/09 06:05 PM






The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


The main problem with Moore is this.

He may be trying to " inform " people, but doing so by taking artistic license with the facts isn't really informing people.


He gets a lot of attention..good and bad, someone is paying attention to him to stir up so much controversy...and if it gets us thinking then possibly they can be a positive out come.
All we can do individually is take it in, research, and decide for ourselves. Better to get us thinking than watching doomsday movies..where is the thinking in that...why care about anything if the world is ending.

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Sun 12/27/09 06:08 PM





The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


No No if Mike Moore disappeared then his hate mongerin fear slingin followers wouldn't have a preacher to follow and would shut up!

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Sun 12/27/09 06:22 PM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Sun 12/27/09 06:24 PM







The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


The main problem with Moore is this.

He may be trying to " inform " people, but doing so by taking artistic license with the facts isn't really informing people.


He gets a lot of attention..good and bad, someone is paying attention to him to stir up so much controversy...and if it gets us thinking then possibly they can be a positive out come.
All we can do individually is take it in, research, and decide for ourselves. Better to get us thinking than watching doomsday movies..where is the thinking in that...why care about anything if the world is ending.


But therein lies the problem, Lid.

He doesn't make people think. He knows damn well that there are an awful lot of people out there who want someone to tell them what they should think.

Take a look at all the people who rely on MSNBC or Fox for their " news " and information.

They are all too happy to let other folks do the thinking FOR them. They'll just follow along in lockstep. Oblivious to the real world.

As far as the " end of the world " movies.

There is a BIG difference between those and what Moore does.

Those movies are strictly entertainment. Moore goes far beyond entertainment and verges into politics. But, when he verges into that territory, he misinforms the people who pay to see his documentaries.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 12/27/09 06:24 PM






The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


No No if Mike Moore disappeared then his hate mongerin fear slingin followers wouldn't have a preacher to follow and would shut up!



You think he is a hate monger? So many out there that teach hate, like the baptist minister...I would call that preaching hate.
I watch Moore's films and I don't live in fear, I don't hate. I have been called pathetic and useless for being a pacifist..on this site. Sharing informtion and teaching hate are two different things...

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Sun 12/27/09 06:32 PM







The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


No No if Mike Moore disappeared then his hate mongerin fear slingin followers wouldn't have a preacher to follow and would shut up!



You think he is a hate monger? So many out there that teach hate, like the baptist minister...I would call that preaching hate.
I watch Moore's films and I don't live in fear, I don't hate. I have been called pathetic and useless for being a pacifist..on this site. Sharing informtion and teaching hate are two different things...


He's a bozo and not sharing anything, just some jack butt with a camera crew and an agenda that's all.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 12/27/09 06:35 PM








The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


No No if Mike Moore disappeared then his hate mongerin fear slingin followers wouldn't have a preacher to follow and would shut up!



You think he is a hate monger? So many out there that teach hate, like the baptist minister...I would call that preaching hate.
I watch Moore's films and I don't live in fear, I don't hate. I have been called pathetic and useless for being a pacifist..on this site. Sharing informtion and teaching hate are two different things...


He's a bozo and not sharing anything, just some jack butt with a camera crew and an agenda that's all.


Isn't it a beautiful thing that we all get to pick what we want to see and make out own judgments....we can name call, ponder, feel happy, get pissed off...life is good. :smile:

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Sun 12/27/09 07:13 PM








The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


No No if Mike Moore disappeared then his hate mongerin fear slingin followers wouldn't have a preacher to follow and would shut up!



You think he is a hate monger? So many out there that teach hate, like the baptist minister...I would call that preaching hate.
I watch Moore's films and I don't live in fear, I don't hate. I have been called pathetic and useless for being a pacifist..on this site. Sharing informtion and teaching hate are two different things...


He's a bozo and not sharing anything, just some jack butt with a camera crew and an agenda that's all.


Yes, he's out there with most of his BS.
Telling half-truths by either side is not helpful.
Moore needs to put the truth out not half-baked facts.

Atlantis75's photo
Sun 12/27/09 08:06 PM









The best thing Michael Moore has done so far was the fating contest with Peter Griffin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs9ApvpICw

The next best thing he can do is fade away!


then the non thinkers can keep not thinking, keep hating and live in fear..and spread their hating fearmonger non thoughts.


No No if Mike Moore disappeared then his hate mongerin fear slingin followers wouldn't have a preacher to follow and would shut up!



You think he is a hate monger? So many out there that teach hate, like the baptist minister...I would call that preaching hate.
I watch Moore's films and I don't live in fear, I don't hate. I have been called pathetic and useless for being a pacifist..on this site. Sharing informtion and teaching hate are two different things...


He's a bozo and not sharing anything, just some jack butt with a camera crew and an agenda that's all.


Yes, he's out there with most of his BS.
Telling half-truths by either side is not helpful.
Moore needs to put the truth out not half-baked facts.


Or you need to check on what you call facts.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 12/28/09 08:41 AM
I haven't seen you able to refute any of them.
lol