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Topic: Unconditional Love versus
Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 06/10/07 11:55 AM
Unconditional Love versus Unconditional relationships:

Are they two separate entities or are we talkin synonymous?

Also, are these supposed to be taken literally?

no photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:00 PM
What do you mean with unconditional relationship?
I'm not sure that I understand the therm properly.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:01 PM
P.S. Feel free to give your definition.

itslaughable16's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:04 PM
hmm, unconditional love.....i guess u would take it literally, depends
in what context its used and who says it.

huh unconditional relationshipshuh ??, thts a hard one

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:05 PM
Okay, here's where my confusion is stemming from.

Unconditional Love to me means you love with no restrictions placed on
the loved one. No if you do this or that, I will no longer love you.
My point being you can unconditionally love someone, but can you still
live with them if they continue certain behaviors thereby causing
condition to relationship.

Relationships - even though you still may love that person tend to if
taken literally have restrictions.

So, hence my question.

Sorry, if I'm being redundant.

itslaughable16's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:13 PM
sure, u can, i mean, if ur really tolerable and patient with this
person....

relationships: sure they do, but its up to u to put them there

ArtGurl's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:23 PM
I am struggling a little with this ...will have to return to this once I
have gained a little clarity for myself.

When is it a conditional relationship and when is it setting boundaries
for your own wellbeing...


hmmm, thinking on it...

no photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:28 PM
I'm struggling with it as well, because in an unconditional
relationship, shouldn't things work both ways there?

iceprincess's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:34 PM
It is possible to love unconditionally you don't have to like someone to
love them. as for the realationship no it's not possible to have one
unconditionally there will always be lines on both sides which can not
be crossed no one person is so tolerant of another that they are going
to be willing to let them get away with absolutely anything they want
just to maintain a relationship.

daleray1606's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:35 PM


Different,

Unconditional Love is when you love someone no matter what.. You
forgive them, you help them, you grow with them, you but their needs
before your own, their happiness is what makes you happy.

Unconditional Relationships... Because we are Human. we all have
expectations in a relationship. If we are a couple, then neither I nor
you should be dating anyone else. We will expect to be loved in return.
There would be no commitment on either side.

Yet you can reasonably expect Unconditional Love while in a
relationship... If both sides strive toward that Goal of loving,
Forgiving, and wanting the other one to be happy, with respect for one
another.. Then I believe one will find happiness...

Oh yeah.. I also believe that God should be in the center of any
relationship... For He is the Father & Meaning of Unconditional Love...

Just my thoughts...

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:36 PM
To me that would be reciprocal, conditions are still technically
present, but they are agreed to by both either by mutual consent or
opinion.

iceprincess's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:39 PM
if conditions are present then by it's own definition it is a
conditional realtionship for if those conditions are broken by either
party then the relationship would be technically broken or new
conditions set in place. there is no such thing as an uncoditional
relationship.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:42 PM
Sorry, that reciprocal reply was to Invisible.

ArtGirl - Yey, I was hoping you would.

Mostly, I'm just wondering if I'm the only one that thinks about these
kinds of things. Maybe I'm just anal regarding definitions or fairness
or whatever you want to call it.

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:50 PM
Iceprinces wrote:
“It is possible to love unconditionally you don't have to like someone
to love them.”

I tend to agree with this as well. There can be quite a large blanket
of semantics associate with the word ‘love’. In fact, one person on
these forum once defined love as simply the absence of hate. In that
context, if you are indifferent to someone that would still qualify as
‘love’ simply because it’s not hate.

Based on these kinds of broad definitions I think I love most everyone.
It’s hard for me to actually hate someone, but it certainly is possible,
especially if they are purposefully harming someone.

I find it seriously difficult to imagine any human being truly loving
other human being with genuine unconditional love. It just seems to me
that there are things that other person could do that could potentially
cause feelings of hate to arise. Most people who say that they love
someone unconditionally, are actually assuming that the person they love
is not going to change their behavior drastically barring serious
disease or mental illness.

In any case, when it comes to an unconditional relationship, that too
seems like a pretty vague idea. I prefer a very ‘undemanding’
relationship myself. But that’s certainly not the same as
unconditional. For one thing I’m very monogamous and prefer to have a
monogamous partner. So this would be a ‘condition’ that I would like to
see placed on our relationship. Although, if both partners are totally
in agreement that this is the way things should be then perhaps neither
of them actually views this as being a ‘condition’ because in a very
real sense they just take it for granted.

I think it would be pretty hard to imagine a relationship that has
absolutely no conditions or expectations at all. I think this would be
true of all types of relationship, not just male/female bonds, but all
people have certain expectations even of friends, and family.

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:53 PM
Just for the record, I quoted Iceprincess as a 'take-off' thought in my
last post, but my post was just general thoughts and not aimed at
Iceprincess.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sun 06/10/07 12:57 PM
Ice I see your point. By the way, again out of curiosity regarding
proper forum etiquet. When I start a thread, am I supposed to act the
hostess with the mostess and respond to every response or can I just let
the thing roll on its own?

daleray1606's photo
Sun 06/10/07 01:06 PM
You could let things roll on and answer the ones you want to....

iceprincess's photo
Sun 06/10/07 01:09 PM
you can allow them to roll on their own darling.LOL as for the post in
regards to my response i take no offense. I have never loved another
adult uncoditionally up to this point in my life. I find as humans we
all have a breaking point no matter what we'd like to believe you can
only take so much pain or hurt before you break. But the people i have
loved be it family, lovers or freinds there have been many a time in
which i really didn't like them.LOL

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 06/10/07 01:17 PM
Are we allowed to hate people unconditionally?

Woudn't that be a lot easier?

iceprincess's photo
Sun 06/10/07 01:24 PM
hell yeah i hate at least three people in my life unconditionally it'
will never matter what they do or say to me as far as i'm concerned the
most horrible death you can imagine is too good for them

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