Topic: Being in Right and Sinless,Standing before God
imrare's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:45 PM
There are no step-children in God's family.

If you are in the family, you have equal access, to God the Father and all His hand has provided.

There are no levels of righteousness, it is an imparted gift; so
there is no such thind as lesser or second class righteousness.

There is on the Righteouness of God, a grace gift impartation to
those, who by the new birth, are in Him.

All true believers are righteous with Him, seated with Him and
heirs jointly with Him, of all the Father has put in play.

All believers are righteous, or in rightstanding with God the Father,
on the basis of their reception of, what God did for them in the
sacrificial offering of His Son.

Believers are "made" righteous, with Messiah's act of obedience,
His triumph opened the way for Believers to become an extension
of His ministry, seated with Him, covered in Him and reigning by
Him, Believers stand with Him on His level, not on a lower or
lesser level.

Right standing before God cannot be earned; it is not a reward,
but rather an award.

Derekkye's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:57 PM
as a God loving man I'd have to disagree...God expects us to keep His commandments...keeping His commandments is righteousness...the last chapter of the bible mentions something like blessed be those who doHis commandments.......I know you're going to reply with a Paul quote implying God's commandments dont have to be kept...isn't Paul the false apostle mentioned in revelation 2:2

righteousness is not an inherent quality of believers...righteousness is doing what God says to do period...tell God you love Him today and learn His commandments and keep them so that the road ahead will be blessed!

laughandlove4ever's photo
Mon 07/12/10 08:47 PM
"But now the righteousness of God apart from law has been revealed, being witnessed by the law and the prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ to all and upon all who believe, for there is no difference, for all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God, being declared righteous freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus." Romans 3

"...for we declare that a man is declared righteous by faith apart from observing the law... Romans 3

We indeed are declared righteous by God's grace, through faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Good word, my friend.

Even our obedience is rooted in the grace of God; it is through the indwelling of His spirit that we are empowered to obey. Obedience is not our gift to God, but God's gift to us. Amazing. It really is all about the grace of God.

suebilly's photo
Wed 07/14/10 10:56 AM
If one is to be obedience to god then he/she needs to obey the commandments cuz god says to follow his laws and so yes we can have the grace of god the obeying his laws as he has set for us all. The bottom line is he set the laws for us all to follow if we choose to and it is our choice you must try to obey them all there is no obey this one and that one, we can choose what ones we want to obey but a true believer and follower will do what gods laws say to do. There is no middle ground. He gave us his laws for a reason, they are for our salvation. We can have salvation by faith, love, etc but you still must go by his laws, as I stated they were given to all for a reason.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 07/14/10 03:41 PM

If one is to be obedience to god then he/she needs to obey the commandments cuz god says to follow his laws and so yes we can have the grace of god the obeying his laws as he has set for us all. The bottom line is he set the laws for us all to follow if we choose to and it is our choice you must try to obey them all there is no obey this one and that one, we can choose what ones we want to obey but a true believer and follower will do what gods laws say to do. There is no middle ground. He gave us his laws for a reason, they are for our salvation. We can have salvation by faith, love, etc but you still must go by his laws, as I stated they were given to all for a reason.


exactly and the word love is quite hollow and in vein if the actions don't follow. So when God tells to do or not to do something and we do the exact opposite, what kind of love is that showing from us towards God?

suebilly's photo
Wed 07/14/10 07:00 PM
Yeppers you got that right, Amen.