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Topic: A Second American Revolution ... ?
Kings_Knight Joined Sat 01/31/09 Posts: 3718	Sat 07/31/10 08:12 AM Edited by Kings_Knight on Sat 07/31/10 08:14 AM
We can hope. C'mon, November ... this nation can't take any more of these people - or this 'president'. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/542171/201007301830/Will-Washingtons-Failures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution? By ERNEST S. CHRISTIAN AND GARY A ROBBINS \| Posted 07/30/2010 06:30 PM ET The Internet is a large-scale version of the "Committees of Correspondence" that led to the first American Revolution — and with Washington's failings now so obvious and awful, it may lead to another. People are asking, "Is the government doing us more harm than good? Should we change what it does and the way it does it?" Pruning the power of government begins with the imperial presidency. Too many overreaching laws give the president too much discretion to make too many open-ended rules controlling too many aspects of our lives. There's no end to the harm an out-of-control president can do. Bill Clinton lowered the culture, moral tone and strength of the nation — and left America vulnerable to attack. When it came, George W. Bush stood up for America, albeit sometimes clumsily. Barack Obama, however, has pulled off the ultimate switcheroo: *He's diminishing America from within* — so far, successfully. He may soon bankrupt us** and replace our big merit-based capitalist economy with a small government-directed one of his own design. He is undermining our constitutional traditions: The rule of law and our Anglo-Saxon concepts of private property hang in the balance. Obama may be the most "consequential" president ever. The Wall Street Journal's steadfast Dorothy Rabinowitz wrote that *Barack Obama is "an alien in the White House."* His bullying and offenses against the economy and job creation are so outrageous that CEOs in the Business Roundtable finally mustered the courage to call him "anti-business." Veteran Democrat Sen. Max Baucus blurted out that *Obama is engineering the biggest government-forced "redistribution of income" in history. Fear and uncertainty stalk the land. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke says America's financial future is "unusually uncertain." A Wall Street "fear gauge" based on predicted market volatility is flashing long-term panic. New data on the federal budget confirm that record-setting deficits in the $1.4 trillion range are now endemic. Obama is building an imperium of public debt and crushing taxes, contrary to George Washington's wise farewell admonition: "cherish public credit ... use it as sparingly as possible ... avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt ... bear in mind, that towards the payment of debts there must be Revenue, that to have Revenue there must be taxes; that no taxes can be devised, which are not ... inconvenient and unpleasant ... ." Opinion polls suggest that in the November mid-term elections, voters will replace the present Democratic majority in Congress with opposition Republicans* — but that will not necessarily stop Obama.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 08:14 AM Edited by Dragoness on Sat 07/31/10 08:22 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Sat 07/31/10 08:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viYdHvYM6ao A revolution never come with a warning A revolution never sends you an omen A revolution just arrived like the morning Ring the alarm we come to wake up the snoring They tellin' you to never worry about the future They tellin' you to never worry about the torture They tellin' you that you'll never see the horror Spend it all today and we will bill you tomorrow Three piece suits and bank accounts in Bahamas Wall street crime will never send you to the slammer Tell all the children in the arms of their mammas The F-15 is a homicide bomber TV commercials for a pop a pill culture Drug companies circling like a vulture Amer-iraqi babies with a G.I. Joe father Ten years from now is anybody gonna bother? Yell Fire, yo, yo, yo Here we come here we come Fire, yo, yo , yo, yo Revolution a comin' Fire, yo, yo, yo, yo Fire, yo, yo, yo, yo Everyone addicted to the same nicotine Everyone addicted to the same gasoline Everyone addicted to a technicolor screen Everybody tryin' to get their hands on the same green From the banks of the river to the banks of the greedy All of the riches taken back by the needy We come from the country and we come from the city You play us on the record, you can play us on the CD All the **** you've given us is fertilizer The seeds that we planted you can never brutalize them Tell the corporation they can never globalize it Like Peter Tosh said Legalize it Girls and boys hear the bass and treble Rumble in the speakers and it make you wanna rebel Throw your hands up, take it to another level And you can never, ever, ever make a deal with the devil Yell Fire, yo, yo, yo

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 08:23 AM


Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Sat 07/31/10 08:28 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 08:30 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades. Bush's administration and influence did nothing to help nor prevent it. He did have 8 years to do something about it all.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sat 07/31/10 08:37 AM
well we already got the teaparty...

oldsage Joined Thu 09/14/06 Posts: 18043	Sat 07/31/10 08:41 AM
These problems can not be blamed on ANY ONE admin. It is the fault of the people trusting the govt. to much & NOT holding our elected personal to account for their actions. We all want someone else to make the hard decisions & "take care of us". weall wanted the high life & easy money, MYSELF included. Well, the "time to pay the piper" is coming. LIFE has/is/never wil be EASY. EVERYTHING takes WORK & attention to detail. Hold you elected officials accountable, pay attention to what they do & how they vote. I don't think any one party is any better than the other, right now. Causes me great concern as to what it will take to turn things around. Not for me, but my grandkids MONEY & POWER, goes to people's heads; ALWAYS & FOREVER. OPINION.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 08:42 AM
The British are coming, the British are coming. One if by land and two if by sea. Throw all the tea into the sea to protest the taxes from the King of England.

Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Sat 07/31/10 09:19 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades. Bush's administration and influence did nothing to help nor prevent it. He did have 8 years to do something about it all. So did Clinton from 1993 to 2001. Democrats seem to forget this fact. Both parties are responsible in my opimion.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 09:22 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades. Bush's administration and influence did nothing to help nor prevent it. He did have 8 years to do something about it all. So did Clinton from 1993 to 2001. Democrats seem to forget this fact. Both parties are responsible in my opimion. But if voting out Democrats is the fix this November, then we shouldn't have had any problems in the first place since we had 8 years of the great fixit Repubs, right?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/31/10 09:24 AM
We can hope. C'mon, November ... this nation can't take any more of these people - or this 'president'. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/542171/201007301830/Will-Washingtons-Failures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution? By ERNEST S. CHRISTIAN AND GARY A ROBBINS \| Posted 07/30/2010 06:30 PM ET The Internet is a large-scale version of the "Committees of Correspondence" that led to the first American Revolution — and with Washington's failings now so obvious and awful, it may lead to another. People are asking, "Is the government doing us more harm than good? Should we change what it does and the way it does it?" Pruning the power of government begins with the imperial presidency. Too many overreaching laws give the president too much discretion to make too many open-ended rules controlling too many aspects of our lives. There's no end to the harm an out-of-control president can do. Bill Clinton lowered the culture, moral tone and strength of the nation — and left America vulnerable to attack. When it came, George W. Bush stood up for America, albeit sometimes clumsily. Barack Obama, however, has pulled off the ultimate switcheroo: *He's diminishing America from within* — so far, successfully. He may soon bankrupt us** and replace our big merit-based capitalist economy with a small government-directed one of his own design. He is undermining our constitutional traditions: The rule of law and our Anglo-Saxon concepts of private property hang in the balance. Obama may be the most "consequential" president ever. The Wall Street Journal's steadfast Dorothy Rabinowitz wrote that *Barack Obama is "an alien in the White House."* His bullying and offenses against the economy and job creation are so outrageous that CEOs in the Business Roundtable finally mustered the courage to call him "anti-business." Veteran Democrat Sen. Max Baucus blurted out that *Obama is engineering the biggest government-forced "redistribution of income" in history. Fear and uncertainty stalk the land. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke says America's financial future is "unusually uncertain." A Wall Street "fear gauge" based on predicted market volatility is flashing long-term panic. New data on the federal budget confirm that record-setting deficits in the $1.4 trillion range are now endemic. Obama is building an imperium of public debt and crushing taxes, contrary to George Washington's wise farewell admonition: "cherish public credit ... use it as sparingly as possible ... avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt ... bear in mind, that towards the payment of debts there must be Revenue, that to have Revenue there must be taxes; that no taxes can be devised, which are not ... inconvenient and unpleasant ... ." Opinion polls suggest that in the November mid-term elections, voters will replace the present Democratic majority in Congress with opposition Republicans* — but that will not necessarily stop Obama. but is he going to kill the prime minister of malaysia?? 'polls' also suggest incumbents will be replaced whether repub or dem and that the President is more popular than both most people calm down with time, I think there will be a minority who refuse to let go of their paranoia,,,but most will be going on with their lives,,,

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 07/31/10 09:28 AM
We can hope. C'mon, November ... this nation can't take any more of these people - or this 'president'. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/542171/201007301830/Will-Washingtons-Failures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution? By ERNEST S. CHRISTIAN AND GARY A ROBBINS \| Posted 07/30/2010 06:30 PM ET The Internet is a large-scale version of the "Committees of Correspondence" that led to the first American Revolution — and with Washington's failings now so obvious and awful, it may lead to another. People are asking, "Is the government doing us more harm than good? Should we change what it does and the way it does it?" Pruning the power of government begins with the imperial presidency. Too many overreaching laws give the president too much discretion to make too many open-ended rules controlling too many aspects of our lives. There's no end to the harm an out-of-control president can do. Bill Clinton lowered the culture, moral tone and strength of the nation — and left America vulnerable to attack. When it came, George W. Bush stood up for America, albeit sometimes clumsily. Barack Obama, however, has pulled off the ultimate switcheroo: *He's diminishing America from within* — so far, successfully. He may soon bankrupt us** and replace our big merit-based capitalist economy with a small government-directed one of his own design. He is undermining our constitutional traditions: The rule of law and our Anglo-Saxon concepts of private property hang in the balance. Obama may be the most "consequential" president ever. The Wall Street Journal's steadfast Dorothy Rabinowitz wrote that *Barack Obama is "an alien in the White House."* His bullying and offenses against the economy and job creation are so outrageous that CEOs in the Business Roundtable finally mustered the courage to call him "anti-business." Veteran Democrat Sen. Max Baucus blurted out that *Obama is engineering the biggest government-forced "redistribution of income" in history. Fear and uncertainty stalk the land. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke says America's financial future is "unusually uncertain." A Wall Street "fear gauge" based on predicted market volatility is flashing long-term panic. New data on the federal budget confirm that record-setting deficits in the $1.4 trillion range are now endemic. Obama is building an imperium of public debt and crushing taxes, contrary to George Washington's wise farewell admonition: "cherish public credit ... use it as sparingly as possible ... avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt ... bear in mind, that towards the payment of debts there must be Revenue, that to have Revenue there must be taxes; that no taxes can be devised, which are not ... inconvenient and unpleasant ... ." Opinion polls suggest that in the November mid-term elections, voters will replace the present Democratic majority in Congress with opposition Republicans* — but that will not necessarily stop Obama. In addition I believe our Senator's and Congressmen need to have term limits placed on them. Power corrupts, and after a long time in the house or Senate anyone and go crooked. First we gotts kick the Dems out of the House and Senate, hopefully replace them with candidates who favor term limits who can vote that in. Then in 2012 we take out the Liberal's Messiah.(Still waiting to him to walk on water.)

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 07/31/10 09:30 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades. Bush's administration and influence did nothing to help nor prevent it. He did have 8 years to do something about it all. Actually the Dems were in control the last half of his Presidency and President Bush did a lot for our country.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 09:30 AM
But if voting out Democrats is the fix this November, then we shouldn't have had any problems in the first place since we had 8 years of the great fixit Repubs, right?

Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Sat 07/31/10 09:37 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades. Bush's administration and influence did nothing to help nor prevent it. He did have 8 years to do something about it all. So did Clinton from 1993 to 2001. Democrats seem to forget this fact. Both parties are responsible in my opimion. But if voting out Democrats is the fix this November, then we shouldn't have had any problems in the first place since we had 8 years of the great fixit Repubs, right? And 8 years prior to that we had the tree hugging Dems, but this goes way deeper than 2 administrations. I never said anything about voting out Dems being the solution. People have you so defensive, you're jumping on everyone.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 09:47 AM
Considering the people who were in power before "these people" were, are the reason for all of our woes. I think there are enough informed folks out there who can remember who caused it. Informed enough to think that one president has caused all of this? You mean brainwashed enough. Surely you can't be so naive and think ONE administration caused this. This has been going on for decades. Bush's administration and influence did nothing to help nor prevent it. He did have 8 years to do something about it all. So did Clinton from 1993 to 2001. Democrats seem to forget this fact. Both parties are responsible in my opimion. But if voting out Democrats is the fix this November, then we shouldn't have had any problems in the first place since we had 8 years of the great fixit Repubs, right? And 8 years prior to that we had the tree hugging Dems, but this goes way deeper than 2 administrations. I never said anything about voting out Dems being the solution. People have you so defensive, you're jumping on everyone. Am I defensive? I think I assumed by your post...lol Sorry. I get frustrated because people gave Bush 8 years to try to do whatever and they can't give this man one year. This man isn't perfect by a long shot but he isn't worse than Bush either. I just believe in attempting to be fair in this world.

_The_Sugar_Fire_ Joined Fri 04/09/10 Posts: 487	Sat 07/31/10 10:03 AM
"Bill Clinton lowered the culture, moral tone and strength of the nation — and left America vulnerable to attack. When it came, George W. Bush stood up for America, albeit sometimes clumsily." Yeah, Bush did a great job "standing up for America"... We only lost 4 airliners, 2 buildings of the WTC, and the the city of New Orleans... Not to mention the biggest surplus our country ever had. Funny no tea party sprung up then, huh?? I get so sick of this childish arguing over which party is better. THEY BOTH SUCK!! People act like if Republicans are voted in, then everything will be all better. If Republicans truly want the moderate vote, they're going to seriously need to consider Ron Paul. These George Bush's and Sarah Palin's morons they're offering us are even bigger parts of the problem. I realize Paul is a radical, but we need a third party in the worst way. And don't give me "The tea party". They're just the Republican base driven to hysteria by Fox news. When I think of leadership, I think of calm, clear headed, steely eyed realists. Not pee-your-pants paranoid crybabies...

Kings_Knight Joined Sat 01/31/09 Posts: 3718	Sat 07/31/10 10:17 AM
Wow. Agenda really DOES trump understanding ...

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/31/10 10:20 AM