Topic: Admit It, Ladies, You Don't Want "Smart"
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Tue 08/10/10 08:36 PM
There is a difference in being smart and making other people feel inferior...not talking about you Lex. Just my experience. I have met some men I know are very intelligent, and I consider myself to be of average intelligence. But after a while, the man starts correcting my every sentence or what have you. THAT is where the problem comes in. I'm not saying I want someone who is of the same intelligence as myself or less, I just don't want to be made to feel stupid every time we talk.

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Tue 08/10/10 08:38 PM




Well then the only psychological solution is that it is possibly true instituting variables for degrees in the differences of level of intelligence of each individual to determine how far intelligences have to be for one partner to feel intimidated enough that they may not be intelligent enough to keep and hold the said intelligent ones attention.......to other degrees of personality characteristics that may or may not conflict or compliment each other....too many variables to state women do not wish to date intelligent men.....


Hey, don't confuse the issue by using reason here, it messes up the whole thing....



Yes it does get quite complicated doesnt it.....and why not? whats wrong with reason?


Well, I'm trying to make a point here, and in order for it to work, I have to use something we writers call "suspension of disbelief." Reason and logic tend to get in the way of that sort of thing!



so I guess that would make this a science fiction conversation then....LOL....I get it though

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Tue 08/10/10 08:42 PM

There is a difference in being smart and making other people feel inferior...not talking about you Lex. Just my experience. I have met some men I know are very intelligent, and I consider myself to be of average intelligence. But after a while, the man starts correcting my every sentence or what have you. THAT is where the problem comes in. I'm not saying I want someone who is of the same intelligence as myself or less, I just don't want to be made to feel stupid every time we talk.


Absolutely, I agree with that -- and I think we have to see that, in a relationship context, both people have their own strengths and weaknesses. I mean, I may be better at spelling than my exes were, but I can't cook at all, and most of them were really good at it.

As far as intelligence goes, I'm really not interested in sitting around matching IQ scores. I just want hers to be above 160.

That's hyperbole in action....


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Tue 08/10/10 08:42 PM





Well then the only psychological solution is that it is possibly true instituting variables for degrees in the differences of level of intelligence of each individual to determine how far intelligences have to be for one partner to feel intimidated enough that they may not be intelligent enough to keep and hold the said intelligent ones attention.......to other degrees of personality characteristics that may or may not conflict or compliment each other....too many variables to state women do not wish to date intelligent men.....


Hey, don't confuse the issue by using reason here, it messes up the whole thing....



Yes it does get quite complicated doesnt it.....and why not? whats wrong with reason?


Well, I'm trying to make a point here, and in order for it to work, I have to use something we writers call "suspension of disbelief." Reason and logic tend to get in the way of that sort of thing!



so I guess that would make this a science fiction conversation then....LOL....I get it though


On at least a couple of levels, yes!


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Tue 08/10/10 08:59 PM
Edited by LadyLovely1105 on Tue 08/10/10 09:00 PM

oops Oh my bad. I so got into answering your comments I forgot to answer the beginning OP ..

YES. I have to have an intelligent man. I graduated Summa Cum Laude from college for a reason.

I also got divorced for a reason. He could not keep up with me in stimulating convo.

My philosphy is to need a man who can challenge and satisfy me both in bed and in banter. Now THAT'S sexy smokin




I don't NEED a man for anything, however I want him for a few....lol!

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Tue 08/10/10 09:00 PM
since we're "playing on words".....I will NEVER "NEED" a man period!!

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Tue 08/10/10 09:14 PM
I could even settle for slightly less intelligent as long as they're extremely witty. Unfortunately witty and smart usually come hand in hand. I cannot handle conceited, egotistical or snobby though. YUCK!

As long as we can go off on tangents together making fun of the most ridiculous and inappropriate things.

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Tue 08/10/10 10:45 PM
Edited by 28chacha on Tue 08/10/10 10:50 PM

Some women want to create man in their own image. Someone who was taught like they were to be a socialite and to look good in public. Someone they can take home to mother and be proud of. Watch this, mom, I have taught him to roll over and play dead. He is such a good dog. I am still trying to house break him. And mom says well that may time, dear. It took me a while to house break your dad but it was worth the effort because we have been married all these years. Does he go to work everyday? Oh, yes, mom. Can I keep him, mom? I don't know. do you think he will look good with your furniture? Has he had all his shots? Have you made a dog house for him, yet? Surely you don't want to keep him the house. Does he chase cats when you are not around? Have you had him neutered, yet? Will he make you look good in public? How have your girlfriends reacted to him? I tell you what. If you and him can along I will have the remote control device installed for him so you can know where he is at all times and it will allow you to control him better. Deal? Oh, thank you, mom. I know you would understand.:smile:


The five Man Laws:

1. Don't be a weenie.
2. Don't be a pushover.
3. Don't be a whiner.
4. Use your big head, not your little one.
5. Shock and awe, and you'd better not screw it up like Bush did.

(I'm saying this tongue-n-cheek but I'm also serious. :))

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Tue 08/10/10 10:57 PM
how bout MENSA Mingle!!!!!
rofl

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Tue 08/10/10 11:12 PM
only,,,i couldn`t join, dratz
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eileena9's photo
Tue 08/10/10 11:16 PM
Stupid Martians gave me a crushed melted WHATCHAMACALLIT......sad sad sad sad sad sad sad

Dsloths's photo
Wed 08/11/10 02:33 AM

So, here's the problem -- once I get comfortable in the relationship (or as close to "comfortable" as I can let myself get, at this point), there's always this sudden change where she wants me to TURN MY BRAIN OFF AND BECOME A CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF WARD CLEAVER IN A BUSINESS SUIT.



I'm going to help you translate this. "Turn my brain off and become a cardboard cutout of Ward Cleaver in a business suit" means "They realize you make little money writing and you should get a job"

The problem is you aren't attracted to smart women. You have so much self esteem tied up in your "intelligence" that if there was the possibility that someone around you was smarter than you it would destroy your self worth. In the words of Bo Diddly "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself."

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Wed 08/11/10 05:33 AM

I'm going to help you translate this. "Turn my brain off and become a cardboard cutout of Ward Cleaver in a business suit" means "They realize you make little money writing and you should get a job"


Wrong. I've only been a writer for a couple of years, and this scenario has been going on since my earliest relationships. I've had jobs making very good money, and it never made any difference.


The problem is you aren't attracted to smart women. You have so much self esteem tied up in your "intelligence" that if there was the possibility that someone around you was smarter than you it would destroy your self worth. In the words of Bo Diddly "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself."


Wrong again. The one ex I was (and still am) MOST attracted to is the one who is definitely much more intelligent than I am. It's true that I haven't found any others on her level; I wish I could.

I'm grateful that at least a few of the respondents here have grasped the underlying humor I'm trying to convey, and haven't felt the need to resort to childish sniping. The rest of you, well, like Dsloths says, "Take a look at yourself." I'm just trying to have a little fun here.


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Wed 08/11/10 05:56 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb here because, well, what the hell difference can it possibly make at this point?

(That's a rhetorical question, by the way. You don't have to answer that one. It won't be on the final.)

OK, here's the scenario. I read lots of women's profiles. I have to. That's where I get the material for OGP. And most of them say "I want to meet a guy who's intelligent" or something along those lines.

And most of the women I've been involved with have commented on my intellect, some of them almost non-stop. "Oh, you're the smartest person I've ever met!" they say with a tinge of admiration (or is that jealousy, or premeditated murder?) in their voices. Well, I don't know. Considering most of them have grown up in environments where a llama wearing a red hat would be considered a genius, I don't know how much stock to put in these assessments, but I guess they're still better than being married or having to eat broccoli.

I mean, OK, I'm pretty smart, as these things go, and if that makes me sound like an Arrogant Narcissistic Conceited jerk, well, I'm OK with that. I don't believe in false modesty, and I'm not entirely convinced that true modesty is such a great idea, either.

So, here's the problem -- once I get comfortable in the relationship (or as close to "comfortable" as I can let myself get, at this point), there's always this sudden change where she wants me to TURN MY BRAIN OFF AND BECOME A CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF WARD CLEAVER IN A BUSINESS SUIT.

In other words, she wants me to become the very opposite of the person she was originally attracted to in the first place.

What's wrong with this picture?

(Rhetorical again. Not on final.)

Now, maybe there is a woman out there who really does want an intelligent guy.

And maybe all of the profiles that say "Looks don't matter, it's what's on the inside that counts" are being totally honest, too....

And maybe Martians will visit us tonight and give us all Snickers bars.

I also know that anytime I post anything that calls people's behaviors into question, 500 of them will immediately say "I'm not like that!" -- which is a nice, knee-jerk, reflexive response.

I'm calling BS here.

THAT will be on the final.


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Wed 08/11/10 05:59 AM


laugh

A$$ needs Smart like Exercise needs Pointless


I think you've discerned the essence of this thread!




Hmmmmmm ...

Mine definitely does ... ;-)

This olde adage bodes significantly here: Foreplay for a woman happens between her ears ...

Definitely true for this woman typing ... Lifetime subscription, please!

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Wed 08/11/10 06:01 AM
Goodness...I think youve been meeting the wrong women. spock

venusenvy's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:06 AM
I adore intellect, I also think arrogance is the worst human trait. huh

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Wed 08/11/10 06:12 AM



laugh

A$$ needs Smart like Exercise needs Pointless


I think you've discerned the essence of this thread!




Hmmmmmm ...

Mine definitely does ... ;-)

This olde adage bodes significantly here: Foreplay for a woman happens between her ears ...

Definitely true for this woman typing ... Lifetime subscription, please!


as one with a professional background in the assessment of intelligence, I find it telling that intelligence has not been defined here yet it seems to be the issue - or one of them. Hence Dancere I completely agree with you & thoroughly appreciate your observation

I also know quite a few Ward Cleavers who are quite bright and they are not, I repeat NOT, made of cardboard. Trust me on that.winking

There are different types of intellect, and it is controversial as to whether some are gender related, as in the way we understand sexuality, for example.

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Wed 08/11/10 06:32 AM
YES, Sweetest Girl ... There are SO many types of intelligence ...

As we explored in this thread; I'd love more input from other perspectives:


http://mingle2.com/topic/show/266936


My hat is off to every single variety, shape, flavour, type and shade thereof ...

As Howard Gardner called it: The Multiple Intelligence Types ...

Takes all the spectrum to make this world balance!

And? I find truly witty/funny, artistic and philosophical people to be some of the most intellectually attractive to me ...

I like a mind that can constructively challenge ...

Science geeks rock my universe ...

I marvel at those innately intelligent w/ their hands ...Builders, mechanics, inventors, etc ...

Etc, Etc, Etc ... Takes a full deck ...

I do know my romantic, take away order needs to also be replete w/ resounding integrity, kindness, insightfulness, tolerance, artistry, curiosity, humour, resiliency, perseverance, strength of character, common sense, wisdom and a childlike sense of wonder and adventure ... and then some ...

Those all represent types of intelligences to me, btw ...

Otherwise, I'd far prefer my own company and great friends, ta ...

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Wed 08/11/10 07:03 AM
Oh!

Computer-Techno geeks absolutely astound me w/ a type of intelligence I simply do NOT possess the ability to retain ...

I can learn it ... and ... It drops 5 minutes later ... Maybe cuz I never seem to really grasp it; I just don't get it!

Think it just might be the furtherest from my own type intelligence that exists ...