awh...

indeed cowboy, but one 'took the guideline', or the bait, for what be of "sin"?

but recall, did it not say, "what be sin for one be not sin for another"?

so, than even with just this one statement adhered to, no one human could use the "book", to define what was sin for another human being to do?

but, self did not listen to the cd, to find out for itself what the singer was "feeling", or had to say, because at the first brains conclusion such was sin, it offically closed it's mind, so again, it did not deduct this for itself, with any open mind, but with a closed mind to it's fellow man?

and, since it deemed said cd as "sin", then it hath as well no choice but to deem cd maker, singer, and other buyer's as "sinful"?

hence, even using less deducting for itself, but rather basing them on what itself first heard was as "sin", from another mortal, as indeed, the good book never mentioned cd's, and which were of sin, and which were not?

cowboy?

your words...

"it would only be logical to listen to our father in hopes to receive the gift of heaven."
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your own statement says you "follow a guideline", or "listen" to "our father", to "get the gift of heaven"

and the reason you "follow this guideline", that you believe be the purpose of the book?

TO GET SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF?

for you?

is not that a total "self motive"?

or motive for self good most?

so your motive for yourself, and your own gain most, is going to determine how you define EVERYTHING YOU HEAR AND READ, within the brain itself.

so what you read into these things, could indeed be because you are reading as thru that filter, or motive?

do as you wish of course, but it would behoove you to at least consider "yourself" as your own father, rather than to believe "something else" is your father in a figmented way?

why?

your gonna fall prey to many "other's leading you", or telling you "how to get to heaven", and since we know you wish to logically deduct things for yourself, than this would not allow you to do so?

in other words, YOU THINK ABOUT HEAVEN, and use your OWN BRAIN, with no ouside words, to decide what YOU THINK IT IS, and use your own brain to figure out what YOU THINK "GOD" IS, and use your own brain to decide what YOU THINK COULD GET A PERSON A ADMITTANCE TICKET?

see, if heaven could be bought or sold, then it would be no different than any other commodity of earth, such as food, concert tickets, viagra...

to buy something, is no different than PAYING FOR IT?

now, i could say to my neighbor, i will work for you, for so many days, for your concert tickets?

so, i have paid no "money", but i still purchased the concert tickets, even though i worked for them?

so, do you think that some place called "heaven" could be "purchased"?

whether with money or deeds, it would still be a purchase?

but indeed, you called heaven a "gift"?

and indeed, text declared heaven a gift.

so, how doth one propose that it need to do any specific thing, to get a "gift"?

if i hold out my hand, and say this watch is my gift to you, but you must do this for me, then it was not a "gift", but rather a purchase?

does it not say, that no man can earn his way to heaven?

so it seems as though "somebody" as your guide is not giving you the full scoop, but rather wishes to have a follower of themself, by creating the notion that you need guidence from the "father"?

that no different than a mob boss, dangling a carrot before his minion's to get what he wants for himself?

and you propose the creator of the cosmos doth the same?

even who you profess to be your leader, declared "i and the father are one"....

and, any that follow christ are to do as he did aren't they?

so, if "i and the father are one", that would mean the human self is it's OWN BOOS?

indeed you are doing exactely what you say you are not doing, by trying to say you do not follow a guideline, as any that "follow the book", have to follow a guideline, MORE than one that follow's no book?

Yes for me, you, and everyone else in the world. The relation with the father is a personal relationship. It's not a you and I, you and him, her and I, not it's you and the father.

Heaven is a reward, not a given. So of course people will do things not in vein but do them in hopes to receive this gift. Regardless if it's for possibly getting the gift of heaven it is still nevertheless done out of love and compassion for this person.