With your way of thinking no one knows anything.

YOU do not KNOW atoms exist for you haven't seen them
YOU do not KNOW the world is round, for you have not see the world
YOU do not KNOW there are other planets out there
And so on

Things are only facts to you if you wish to accept the facts on a personal level.

and the bottom line is that you do not "know" that God exist and why you can only claim that you "believe" he exist....and that is why it's called a "belief in God" and why "to believe is to doubt"

Not true. Those things i mentioned that you do not know is cause you have not witnessed such things yourself. If you allow our father into your heart you will feel him and you can feel the presence of our father when you are around someone that has done as such.

But on the things i said you do not know you have not done as such, nor witnessed any of it therefore you don't know those, when in fact i have felt the presence of God along with many other people that will tell you the same.

Cowboy you admitted to knowingly sinning...is that what happens when you let the father into your heart ....according to the belief believers knowingly sin because they have Satan in their heart...

anyone can make claims that they know God...but it's no getting around the fact that a belief in God is just that...a belief

I don't KNOWINGLY sin. As in i know it's a sin to steal, therefore i don't steal. I won't deny the fact that i probably do sin from time to time, but it is not a sin i'm aware of doing.

if God is in your heart then how is it possible for you to sin? ...

The flesh is sinful and sometimes i allow it to have the better hand over my heart soul and mind.

because the flesh is sinful doesn't mean you have to sin....didn't Jesus have flesh.......also to allow sin to have the better of you means you have Satan in your heart and not God....

No it doesn't mean i HAVE to sin, i'm just weak. Life is a growing process. No it doesn't mean i have satan in my heart instead of God, for i most usually don't sin. And in those breif occasional times i do sin, it is cause i fell victim to the charm of the flesh. I fall down *sin*, get up dust the dirt off my knees and move on *ask for forgiveness and repent from doing such an action again*

Meh, I don't necessarily agree with 5th grade show.

My dad learned basic algebra in high school. I got basic algebra in 8th grade. When I struggled with it in the 10th grade, he told me this was stuff they would have learned in 3rd year college.

As we find more things, the information drops down younger and younger to what the kids are taught.

I honestly can't say now as I could give a solid description on prepositional phrases, participles, etc., much less some of the science stuff that we were never taught, that they're getting at the fifth grade level. Heck, my first year in college, the English professor walked in and told us everything we had learned in school was BS, and we were free to write any way we liked, so long as it made sense.

Now, I do believe, if one is going to preach religion, they need to know all facts and history, good, bad, and ugly. Otherwise, they don't need to preach. After all, one can find tons of information on biblical stories that have been proven to have a scientific background, which changes the entire meaning and generally negates the woo-woo mysterious miracle.

you're making excuses...you are weak because you don't have God in your heart...with an omniscient God in your heart you shouldn't be weak you should be strong....that's why it's not him that is in your heart ....and that's why you shouldn't go around claiming that he is because that makes you a tool of Satan to claim that you have God in your heart while you are sinning

Oh so now you're judging me, speaking for our father, and making wild accusations?

Oh so now you're judging me, speaking for our father, and making wild accusations?

Why shouldn't he?

You don't seem to have any problem judging others, speaking for "our father", and making wild accusations.

What goes around comes around.

You judge everyone who refuses to accept that the ancient Hebrews speak for God to be "rejecting God".

You seem to be able to dish out the judgments to others but feel that you should somehow be "above" their judgments.

You continually refer to me as an "atheist".

You're constantly judging my relationship with God. You refuse to recognize that I acknowledge God in all Her splendor.

You're so hung up on judging everyone based on what the ancient Hebrews had to say, that you can't even begin to imagine a better picture of God. But better pictures definitely exist.

I personally choose the best picture I can possibly find for God.

Why insult Her by choosing anything less?

It is a very great pity that most adults think adulthood means the end of learning.

You continually refer to me as an "atheist".

You're constantly judging my relationship with God. You refuse to recognize that I acknowledge God in all Her splendor.

You're so hung up on judging everyone based on what the ancient Hebrews had to say, that you can't even begin to imagine a better picture of God. But better pictures definitely exist.

I personally

choose

the best picture

I can possibly

find

for God.

Why insult

Her

by choosing anything less?

Romans 1:16-26a

Gospel Exalted


16, For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17, For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18, For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19, Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20, For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21, Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22, Professing themselves to be wise,

they became fools,

23, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24, Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25, Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26, For this cause God gave them up
unto vile affections:

Bravo, you can quote scripture. Now, can you think and say stuff in your own words, with your own viewpoints?

I have a parrot, and it mimics what I've taught it. Personally, I know it can also say things out of context of how I taught it, so I do know that she thinks.

I see plenty of parroting going on, with your biblical quotes...

You think a parrot can think??? You think a parrot can talk???


By your own logic, so can CeriseRose, so what's your problem???


Proverbs 23:9
Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

So..by your own logic, aren't you breaking that rule? In fact, since none the religionists on here have convinced the nonrelgionists of much of anything having to do w/ your godthing, wouldn't that make us all fools, by your standards, and all the religionists rule breakers?
So, what's the penalty for "speaking" in the ears of fools anyway? Do you have to hit yourself with a stick or something?