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Topic: Ground Zero Mosque
AlphaRebel's photo
Tue 10/26/10 02:39 PM
This is perhaps the most historically accurate and morally correct statement I've heard on the mosque issue! :thumbsup:

There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia . The time for
double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.


The proposed "Cordoba House" overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks - is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example,
most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba , Spain – the capital of Muslim
conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.


Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith cooperation" when, in fact, every Islamist in
the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our
historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way. Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City . Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia . In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca . And they lecture us about tolerance.


If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to
immediately open up Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign.


We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13 story, $100 million mega mosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating surprise attack in American history.


Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources. America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.
No mosque.
No self deception.
No surrender.
The time to take a stand is now - at this site on this issue.

willing2's photo
Tue 10/26/10 02:50 PM
I'll endorse this topic.drinker

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 02:54 PM
saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion , period

which makes the comparison less than intellectually honest

but saudi arabia also isnt synonymous with mosques, which are in islamic cultures ALL over the world,,,and not the exclusive domain of saudis

willing2's photo
Tue 10/26/10 02:59 PM

saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion

If, that is true, it makes perfect sense.
Build the GZ Tower to Terror when Saudi Arabia allows churches and synagogues

AlphaRebel's photo
Tue 10/26/10 02:59 PM

saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion , period

which makes the comparison less than intellectually honest

but saudi arabia also isnt synonymous with mosques, which are in islamic cultures ALL over the world,,,and not the exclusive domain of saudis


Pick any Islamic dominated culture and apply the same comparison. Do the Muslims invite Judaic or Christian centers of worship near their homes or mosques?

willing2's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:02 PM


saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion , period

which makes the comparison less than intellectually honest

but saudi arabia also isnt synonymous with mosques, which are in islamic cultures ALL over the world,,,and not the exclusive domain of saudis


Pick any Islamic dominated culture and apply the same comparison. Do the Muslims invite Judaic or Christian centers of worship near their homes or mosques?

I'd say, allow a GZ Tower to Terror be built as soon as we could replace the mosque in Mecca with a Southern Baptist Cultural Center. :wink:

Etrain's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:03 PM
Very interestingsmokin

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:04 PM


saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion

If, that is true, it makes perfect sense.
Build the GZ Tower to Terror when Saudi Arabia allows churches and synagogues



it makes no sense, as we are talking about america and not saudi arabia,,,


and in AMERICA, where we are supposed to support freedom of religion,

we cannot start denying it based upon what other countries choose to do(or not do)

willing2's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:09 PM



saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion

If, that is true, it makes perfect sense.
Build the GZ Tower to Terror when Saudi Arabia allows churches and synagogues



it makes no sense, as we are talking about america and not saudi arabia,,,


and in AMERICA, where we are supposed to support freedom of religion,

we cannot start denying it based upon what other countries choose to do(or not do)

Not!
If it's terrorist funded, all rules are null and void.
On the other thread, it was shown where the builders were linked to terrorists.

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:10 PM




saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion

If, that is true, it makes perfect sense.
Build the GZ Tower to Terror when Saudi Arabia allows churches and synagogues



it makes no sense, as we are talking about america and not saudi arabia,,,


and in AMERICA, where we are supposed to support freedom of religion,

we cannot start denying it based upon what other countries choose to do(or not do)

Not!
If it's terrorist funded, all rules are null and void.
On the other thread, it was shown where the builders were linked to terrorists.


yeah, 'links' can be found between just about any two people you want them to in this day and age

and any organization

AlphaRebel's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:16 PM
Edited by AlphaRebel on Tue 10/26/10 03:18 PM
"links' can be found between just about any two people you want them to in this day and age and any organization"


I have to disagree. What kind of logic is that? Relativity? If all truth is relative there is relatively NO truth. "Mean what you say and say what you mean." There's a novel idea!

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:18 PM


saudi arabia allows no freedom of religion , period

which makes the comparison less than intellectually honest

but saudi arabia also isnt synonymous with mosques, which are in islamic cultures ALL over the world,,,and not the exclusive domain of saudis


Pick any Islamic dominated culture and apply the same comparison. Do the Muslims invite Judaic or Christian centers of worship near their homes or mosques?


but AMERICA has FREEDOM OF RELIGION , so all that about what others do is a MUTE point,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:20 PM

"links' can be found between just about any two people you want them to in this day and age and any organization"


I have to disagree. What kind of logic is that? Relativity? If all truth is relative there is relatively NO truth. "Mean what you say and say what you mean." There's a novel idea!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation


give me unlimited web and resources and some information and I could LINK everyone here to someone less than reputable,,,,



willing2's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:23 PM


"links' can be found between just about any two people you want them to in this day and age and any organization"


I have to disagree. What kind of logic is that? Relativity? If all truth is relative there is relatively NO truth. "Mean what you say and say what you mean." There's a novel idea!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation


give me unlimited web and resources and some information and I could LINK everyone here to someone less than reputable,,,,




Gotcha'!
I leave on witnesses!!laugh laugh laugh

AlphaRebel's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:26 PM
Now THAT is funny ****

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 03:26 PM
laugh laugh laugh

if only it were that easy,,,,

TonkaTruck3's photo
Tue 10/26/10 09:10 PM
This is why religion should be banned.

kc0003's photo
Tue 10/26/10 09:33 PM
Edited by kc0003 on Tue 10/26/10 09:34 PM







it makes no sense, as we are talking about america and not saudi arabia,,,


and in AMERICA, where we are supposed to support freedom of religion,

we cannot start denying it based upon what other countries choose to do(or not do)



This should have ended the discussion....

you can’t condemn the ideology one minute and adopt it the next. If you want to lead, you have to do it by other means than replication.



“if I am right, then [religious fundamentalist] will not go to Heaven, because there is no Heaven. If they are right, then they will not go to Heaven, because they are hypocrites.”

-Isaac Asimov


Chazster's photo
Tue 10/26/10 09:54 PM
Sure there is freedom of religion, no one is stopping them from having their religion. They just don't want a religious center built over a place where such a tragedy occurred by extremists of that very religion.

I think if they were decent people they would understand this and find a new location. To me it seems they have some kind of agenda to build it there. Maybe they don't but it does look that way.


damnitscloudy's photo
Tue 10/26/10 10:18 PM
This again? I'm tired of it all ready.

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