i wasn't talking to you there....

yea joy im thinking we think alike ... i know what u meant!

not sure what that means but...

it's CERTAINLNY about YOU.

you want a guy that CARES ABOUT YOU.

well, THAN HE WILL CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT.

so, how can any women go wrong, saying what SHE WANTS.

if he is not the one that CARES, then he runs away.

good for you again.

you still won.

it is only women that conceal, trying to induce or create feelings in a man, that shall always lose.

if you say what YOU WANT, YOU WILL BE THE ONE HAVING THE HARD DECISION OF "WHICH ONE".

believe me, women try to bait, to entice, to enduce, to seduct, to see if their wanted, but then can't tell when they really are.

because you tried to create it in a man.

YOU ARE THE ONE IN CHARGE.

any man that truly cares about you, will love supporting WHAT YOU WANT, FORSAKING HIS OWN WANTS REDILY AS SECOND.

but, how will one find such, lest it speaks WHAT IT WANTS WHEN IT WANTS IT.

fucck rejection.

it dosen't exist.

JUST ANOTHER ONE THAT DOSEN'T WANT WHAT """YOU WANT""".

all your looking for is what "WANTS WHAT YOU WANT RIGHT NOW"r.

not plannning for the future.

you might be dead next week.

then what?

the future YOU create EXPERTLY, BY SAYING WHAT YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT IT, as you wants come to you, for what is the future but now.

to plan or try to surmize how some other will feel, be, want, in the future, for any "future", IS STILL CONTROLLED BY...

TWO PEOPLE WANTING WHAT EACH OTHER WANTS.

SO, THE WANTS STILL.

are those gonna change.

hell yea.

but there is a constant.

the WANT alwasy leads then WAY.

because IT BE THE CONSISTENT THING THAT GUIDES ONESELF OR ANOTHER.

so, your not going to be successful at anything as much as you WANT to be, UNTIL YOU SAY WHAT YOU WANT, WHEN YOU WANT IT.

you'll be amazed at THE DIFFERENT RESULTS you'll get.

it is people staring at their own self agenda, that blindly plan for reality of some "future", that can't see what exist NOW.

so, fail at creating the future they want.

WHAT ONE WANTS IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN CREATING IT TOTAL REALITY.

if the reality self got left with, was not what it wanted, THAN IT DIDN'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO SAY WHAT IT WANTED, and then work out the details.

the words of what you want, control ALL that happens to you.

speak me!

or do not live yet.

yea...

women are afraid of getting hurt.

but how can a women be hurt, from a man, if she says what she wants, when she wants it?

yes, with each want, the wants change and morph, of course, self is evolving...

hence, the only NOW words that can apply at ALL TIMES, FOREVER...

say what you want, when you want it.

in reality, a women is scared of a no, for as children, the word came to mean disappointment for self.

a NO in adult life, HELPS YOU "FIND" BETTER ""WHO"" YOU WANT.

and indeed, the adult should have taught a child that before it could even speak, for surely it could understand long before it busted thru the frustration of not being able to speak.

just one idiots thougths.

I knew you would

sweet!
it says up there that rejection does not exist...

i think the world will be pleased to hear this.

how can one be strung along?

only if one did not say what it wanted?

not sure how one is strung along, IF THEY ARE SAYING WHAT THEY WANT AT ALL TIMES.

those that get strung along, are hinting, hoping, certainnly not saying what they want.

and certainly not requiring a yes or no with each one.

if one takes ambiguous answers, hoping for some solid reality, well, perhaps.

but anything that gives ambiguous answers is NOT SURE.

if it is what a man wants HE IS SURE.

if he is NOT SURE.

he does not CARE.

he can't care, or REALLY TOTALLY WANT, AND NOT BE SURE.

oh yea, every pore in the body will be FOR SURE.

anyhow....

just thinkin out loud.

and i am not saying IN ANY of these words WHAT YOU ARE NOW, OR WHAT YOU DO NOW or have done.

they are in no way based UPON WHAT YOUR DOING NOW AT THIS MOMENT or have done with men in any of your relationships.

not missed, if you were actually doing what i wrote in these words, what you wrote in your first post could not exist, lol...

it is much more common than you make it sound. people can say yes to you, but really their true intentions remain hidden.

seriously, you cannot be so naive as think people cannot be strung along.

lol...

i hear ya...

if one thinks of it as rejection, REJECTION SHALL CONTINUE.

if it's but a matter of finding what another wants when you want it, than how is a NO some rejection?

it sends you closer to who and what DOES WANT WHAT YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT IT?

not missed, many suffer with "rejection", but there is a way to conquer it isin't there?

are we to believe that is just the "curse of life"?

no, it is because of HOW SELF IS THINKING ABOUT IT.

so, then how self is reacting to it.

and no man, stuck IN SELF REJECTION, will be very successful at ANYTHING.

not for long.

say what you want.

it doesn't matter how you say it, and how smart you try to make yourself sound.

say what you want, how you want to say it.

if one stops playin the self wise smart GOOD guy, and just says what it wants, and you won't be defending REJECTION MUST EXIST.

not if you await your answer, and DO NOT MOVE PAST THAT MOMENT, UNTIL TWO HAVE WHAT THEY WANT.

their INTENTIONS?

those are a YES AND A NO?

to what self wants?

the only thing that can get strung alone, is one that compromised IT'S OWN TRUE WANTS, HOPING FOR A DIFFERENT RESULT LATER.

so everyone you come in contact with in your entire lifetime will be 100% honest with you 100% of the time? no f-ing way!

by eluding to acceptance, you allow for rejection to exist. for one cannot exist without the other. much like up and down, hot and cold, on and off.

excellent point...

but...

how can there be eluding to acceptence, if oneself says, i wanna fuccck you right now?

how can there be eluding to the question, i want you to move in with me.

how can there be eluding to acceptence if one asks to take another to dinner?

if they say no, and self clings and waits and hopes that they might later, it lingers in INFINITY CHANCE.

there is no chance or luck to ANYTHING.

self acts on THEY DO NOT WANT TO GO TO DINNER.

and immediately forgets that, and moves to it's next want.

the only people that suffer rejection are what is TRYING TO MAKE ANOTHER WANT WHAT SELF WANTS.

instead of FINDING WHAT DOES.

then, you may be surprised just how many will come TO YOU, because all humans CAN FEEL ANOTHER TRYING, HOPING, WISHING, THEM TO WANT WHAT SELF WANTS...

let it go.

think of it as ZERO POSSIBLE IF A NO.

and move on to the next want and persure it.

a no.

move on.

if THERE WAS MORE, she will be back.

BUT NOT IF SELF IS TRYING TO "GET WHAT IT WANTS"....

it's just a matter of truly speaking it, and then CARING ABOUT A NO AS GOOD!

for indeed, if one actually cared about another person with anything close to LOVE, would not a NO be priceless words to hear, for would one ACTUALLY BE SATISFIED WITH SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER THEY DID NOT TOTALLY AND EMPHATICALLY WANT TO GIVE?

hell no.

such will just create souor for both.

sorry but there is no "but" to that. if you ask someone out and they say yes, they have accepted your offer. conversely, if the answer is no, your offer has been rejected, period.

it doesn't matter how one chooses to color it, it does exist. it is part of life and always will be. now, should we dwell on it? no, but to simply deny that rejection is part of the human experience would be lying to one's self.

i live in the human world, not the ostrich world.

lol...

it is only whining, crying, self sympathizing men, who cry because they were rejected, but indeed, it was BUT BECAUSE ALL OTHERS WERE SEEN AS BUT AN OBJECT, of IF THEY TWOULD GIVE SELF WHAT IT WANTED.

and when they don't?



BUT, IF A MAN ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT "HER", TWOULD MEAN HE WOULD CARE ABOUT WHAT "SHE" WANTED, AND SO TO HEAR A "NO" WOULD BE GRAND GOOD TO HEAR...

UNLESS IT WAS SO MUCH ABOUT HIMSELF, he seen and heard nothing but a yes and no, not any true caring about what "she" wanted AT ALL.



what emotion do you seek to envoke with your words?

lol...

some rejection, lol...

for the self as wise only.

beause a NO TELLS WHAT SHE WANTS.

the only thing that hates a no, and is rejected by it, is what does not care about that other person.

HELLO.

Why do you always ask that? “what emotion do you seek to envoke with your words?” what makes you think I am seeking anything? I thought we were sharing thoughts and discussing a difference of ideas.

I don’t see where I was “whining” about anything, sorry if you can’t tell the difference.

No matter how many times you repeat the same point; it doesn’t make it any more true. Having consideration for other peoples wants, needs or desires, is not the same thing as falsely convincing yourself that rejection does not exist. In fact, the latter seems to me to be a built-in protection mechanism, made to fortify a delicate ego and shield us from the harsh reality the sometimes comes to visit in this world. Hell, the very idea that we have the word to describe a given reaction, should be all the proof you need.

Next you’re going to tell me that all the kids in the league deserve trophies; that there is no reason to keep score, because there are really no winners or losers. Please, say it aint so!

It never really seems to click for me online for some reason......I don't know if being online itself is the barrier but I do enjoy the forums.....may just be I can't feel it....or its uncomfortable......I don't know....but if I have met someone in person and it feel no pressure then it fine....

If it feels like pulling teeth ... walk away

Hell I just give up I'm not given them my attention at all anymore.....

that'll teach'em!

If there were no chase.. what character would we build?... w/o the chase love would truly be meaningless..