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Topic: Probation for killing after dog pees on prize lawn
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Tue 01/04/11 11:39 AM


And if all the THINGS that are most important to you are inside your home and the house is on fire; what THINGS would be worth risking your own life for or the life of others?

What if there was company staying in your home at the time, would you worry most about the THINGS or would you make sure the PEOPLE and your loved pets take priority?

If there were homes nearby and the wind seems to carry the flames in their direction - would you first worry about what THINGS you could save from you own home?

The point is, human life IS more important than THINGS. Just because you don't know someone does not make that person's life any less valuable.

We all have bad days, we all cop an attitude for different reasons, and as Msharmony said, we take a risk when we annoy those we don't know. If a person believes they are in a life-threatening situation, then deadly force is a reasonable responce.

In the case being discussed, there are several stories being told besides the one in the OP. There were witnesses who say the man with the dog left after the assulting the lawn man. The lawn man followed him, pulled his gun and shot him in the gut.

That is not reasonable - that is anger whose objective is to get even, but getting even would be a punch - not a bullet.

If the THINGS we own are more important to us than human life, then perhaps we should better safegard them. An open lawn divided by a public sidewalk next to a public street is not well protected.

If the choice is to put up a fense or shoot whoever threatens your lawn, what clear thinking person would consider taking another person's life as a cheaper alternative to putting up a fense?

Of course we don't know the whole story, and I can only hope there is more to it because I just can't believe that any judge would excuse the behavior of the lawn man as outlined by the OP.





Working this backward... We don't know what kind of homeowner's situation there was where that man lived. A lot of HOA's have specific rules and regulations about IF fences can even be put up on a front yard, and have restrictions about types and sizes of fences in backyards. There have been several posts from Mingle2 folks about not even being allowed to fly flags off houses due to local HOA regulations.

I haven't seen any updates about the man walking away. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like they were still fighting on the guys yard. I do agree with your thought and Msharmony's about it being wrong if indeed the man walked away. That certainly changes the story and whether it is self-defense or not. But a person has the right to defend themselves, by whatever means they feel necessary if they are immediately being attacked. The guy was very obviously warned, and if he did not leave, as was mentioned in the articles posted here, then that was his fault.

I certainly agree about bad days and attitudes. A lot of it boils down to self-control. Throwing a punch is not self-control, especially after the other person showed he had a gun.

In the case of random fire, then the first thing out would be the animals and who was in it. I probably would go back in for various items if there was time. But I also know, no matter how devastating it was, everything is insured and can be taken care of.

If the fire was coming down the block, then I would be fighting it to protect my place. I really don't care about another person's place. Been there, done that. Tired of the stupidity of the local yokels around here, and the one neighbor was a fireman, which is even more idiotic.

And if it was deliberately set, then there would be Hel to pay, and the person would pay, one way or another.

People don't stay at my home. I've learned my lesson with broken objects, hurt animals, and "guests" who don't know how to behave themselves or take care of their kids and make sure they behave.

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