Here is a critical look at the Ten Commandments that are touted as the Laws of God.
This thread is for discussion about the ten commandments and whether or not you think they are God's laws.


The Ten Commandments

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

6. Thou shalt not kill.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8. Thou shalt not steal.

9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

This command is from a jealous God who acknowledges that he is not the only God. So, the notion that there is only one God does not fly. The "God" that wrote this, was obviously not the Prime creator, but some alien impostor.

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.


Okay hold on here... this, if I were to take it as it stands means that God does not appreciate art at all.

I reject this so-called commandment completely.

I would replace it with something like:

2. Thou shalt not engage in sexual intercourse with children under the age of 16.


Of course a lot of the religious leaders who marry children would not like this as a commandment would they?

#2. Commandment has been replaced in my church.

#1. Commandment will also be changed to read:

1. God is all. Respect all life for all life is God.

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.


I'm not sure what #3 refers to. Most people believe it means not to say "God dammit" but I'm just not so sure.

I think it means that evangelic preachers and prophets should not claim that God speaks through them alone.

I think it means that people should not hide behind the pulpit pretending to be righteous and then in their secret life molest children or engage in deviant behavior and otherwise pretend to be holy men and yet are not.

I will change suggestion #3.

3. Speak kind and positive words and realize the power of the spoken word.

HAHAHAHAHA!

The Ten Commandments

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

(There is One God) Statement of fact.

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.

(Don't worship statues)

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.

(Don't minimize the concept of God with silly oaths)

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

(Make one special day of the week a day of rest and introspection)

5. Honour thy father and thy mother.

(Respect your parents)

6. Thou shalt not kill.

(Killing is wrong)

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

(Adultery is wrong)

8. Thou shalt not steal.

(Stealing is wrong)

9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

(Lying is wrong)

10. Thou shalt not covet.

(Jealousy is wrong)

Pretty simple - old-fashioned. Nice concise set of decent ethical
rules to live by. Not bad for a couple thousand years ago and
then some...

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth


I got the "graven image" part of the command but then it says that I can't make any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water...

I don't think this should be any concern of God if I paint portraits or make statues.

That is the stupidest commandment of all.

I could have thought up a better one.

Like how about not having sex with children.

This commandment is not about painting artwork or making
sculptures. It is about not worshipping them as gods!

That is NOT what it says.

That is just what you think it means.

The term "graven" was only applied to the first subject.

Take that out and you have:

Thou shalt not make unto thee any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth

Actually this first commandment clearly shows that these commandments were not written by any God at all.

These were clearly the made-up commandments of a society that was trying to build a religion that would trump the religion of their neighbors.

That's what these cultures in the Mediterranean region did.

The Greeks had Zeus as "The God of Gods".

So the Hebrews created Yahweh, and have him proclaiming that no other God's shall be placed before him.

This is what these people did back then. They were all trying to create a religion with a God that was more important than their neighbor's Gods.

That's precisely why this is written like this and tells us clearly that these things were indeed written by men.

No real God would have commanded such a foolish thing. Especially if it was the only God that existed. It would have been utterly stupid to demand that no other Gods be placed before it if there are no other Gods.

An all wise God would have just stated. I am the only God there is.

So we caught the mortal men in their lies right in the Ten Commandments themselves.

10. Thou shalt not covet.

(Jealousy is wrong)


And this coming from a jealous God.

6. Thou shalt not kill.

(Killing is wrong)


And this from Jehovah, known as the God of war who supposedly ordered the slaughter of men women and children in the promised land...

Don't worry, that story never really happened. Its just fiction.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

(Make one special day of the week a day of rest and introspection)


So will any day do or is it Sunday or Saturday...?

We are not to put any other gods before god our father... know ye not that ye are gods? It's not talking about some Zeus like set up. It's talking about putting other people, other gods before our father.

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.

(Don't minimize the concept of God with silly oaths)



Does that include the Pledge of Allegiance, and "in God we trust?"
What about oaths taken in secret societies and Free Masons?

God is supposed to have 'created' mankind, not given birth to him.
He can't be both "our father" and "our creator."

Did your mother and father "create" you or give birth to you?

Was God said to have "created" Jesus, or did he impregnate a woman who gave birth to him?

Is God Jesus's father or his creator?

You need to get these things strait.

Definition of covet is as follows


- To wish for earnestly
- To desire "what belongs to others" inordinately

It is not limited to being jealous. It is "lusting" after objects, physical things, a new car, a stereo system, ect. So, no this commandment is not limited to "Jealousy is wrong".

We are not to build statues of God, Jesus, or anything in heaven. That would be idol worship. We would then be worshipping the statue(s) not God our father.

If there is only one God then it isn't possible to worship other gods because other gods don't exist.

Therefore the Canaanites could not have been worshiping a 'false' God.

If they were sacrificing their babies to God it had to be this God.

Because according to you, there are no other Gods.

Clearly the Canaanites were attempting to worship "GOD".

So to claim that they refused to worship "GOD" is nonsense.

If they got it all wrong, that could only have been Gods's fault for not clarifying to them what he expected from them.

If they were sacrificing their babies to HIM (which they had to have been doing if he's the ONLY God), then it would be up to HIM to appear before them in person and say, "No, that's not what I want".

If he failed to do that, then he was allowing them to believe that they were worshiping HIM (i.e. their creator and the ONLY God that exists), and allowing them to go about it all wrong.

So that whole deal with the Canaanites would be entirely God's fault for not stepping up to the plate and making it known that he did not want babies to be sacrificed to him.

So the fables themselves are a gross contradiction concerning the behavior of this supposed single God who is jealous of himself.

If I attempt to worship the CREATOR of this universe and He FAILS to show up, then that's HIS FAULT and no one Else's.

He didn't fail to show up. You failed to believe the history of his appearance. You failed at believing God said "This is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased. It's not God's fault you do not believe the history of this happening.

I failed at nothing Cowboy.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that I should believe such nonsense.

Those ancient Hebrews did not conduct themselves in a way that merit belief. They were male-chauvinist pigs who proclaimed that God supported their male-chauvinism.

Today they would be viewed as the Taliban.

Would you TRUST the Taliban to speak for God?

I sure wouldn't.

There is absolutely no righteous reason why I should believe anything those ancient Hebrews had to say. They were clearly a sick demented society.

If you believe their hateful bigotry represents the "Word of God" then that's your naive failings.

Not mine.

Apparently you do believe that God is as sick and demented as those ancient Hebrews.

I see no reason to believe that the creator of humanity could be that sick and perverted.

Evidently you don't hold such high standards for what you expect God to be like. You'll apparently accept the claims of a sick perverted society like the Taliban, simply because they claim to speak for God.

How naive is that?

If Hitler claimed to be God's Son would you believe that too?

Apparently all he would need to tell you is that God confirmed this by speaking from a cloud and you'd be convinced.



I realize that some people are easily led, but gee whiz Cowboy there comes a time when you need to actually think for yourself once in a while and question these claims from perverts.