Topic: Dollars from thin air & your mortgage
smo's photo
Sun 07/15/07 02:53 PM
Why is this money system such a mystery, it should be totally in the open, some one should claim responsibility, a chain of command , etc. Why ,I understand that even the irs has its main office in Puerto Rico, and is a private collection agency for the International Monetary Fund , and that none of your income tax money goes for govt expenses, but goes straight to the fund??? More good stuff to check on!!!How come UNITED STATES of AMERICA, instead of: united States in America ???? We have been HAD, all part of a bigger picture!!! But we will get it all figured out ,if we keep working together, and don't get too mad at each other.we are brothers and sisters and are in this together. Let us keep digging, I am working on it too.

xootbx's photo
Sun 07/15/07 03:16 PM
Smo,
You really crack me up with your ignorant statements.
The Federal Reserve Board is located in DC.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/virtualtour/tour.cfm

The IRS is located at:
1111 Constitution Avenue DC.

Even if it were located in PR, it would not matter as PR is a commonwealth of the US. People born in PR are US citizens, they have congressional representation etc...

There is really nothing to figure out, other than the fact you are duped by those that make stuff up an try to make other believe it to be the truth.

This purpose of this topic is clear, to propogate lies hoping that a small percentage will take it at face value.

More liberal spin with no evidence.

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 03:49 PM
well there are enough sites listed here

those that want to know or need more info

can find whatever they want

don't take my word for it and don't take anyone else's

word for it

dig a little and come up with your own educated thought
on the subject

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 03:53 PM
when did Puerto Rico become a commonwealth

last i remember they were still a territory

could you provide info plz

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 03:57 PM
they may be a self-governing commonwealth

but they are not a common wealth with-in the united states

or there would be 51 stars on the flag

as PA and several commonwealths that are in the united states

are represented by a star

xootbx's photo
Mon 07/16/07 05:04 PM
adj4u a commonwealth does not have to be a state. Thanks for showing your ignorance of the topic.
You guys really should study up, this is not new news, it is 50+ years... You are really showing you lack of education which really makes you other claims more fantasy than anything else.

Keep digging, maybe you will find the pot of gold some day.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rq.html

xootbx's photo
Mon 07/16/07 05:08 PM
adj4u,
In case you only believe not governmental sites..
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/3684/history.html

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 05:33 PM
http://topuertorico.org/government.shtml


and from
http://encarta.msn.com/media_461543626/United_States_Territories.html

United States Territories


Name
Status
Location
Area Year Acquired

American Samoa Unorganized and unincorporated territory under the authority of the Department of the Interior. Central Pacific Ocean; about 3,700 km (about 2,300 mi) southwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 200 sq km
(77 sq mi) In stages between 1900 and 1925.

Baker Island Unincorporated territory under the authority of the Fish and Wildlife Service. Central Pacific Ocean; about 2,655 km (about 1,650 mi) southwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 2.6 sq km
(1 sq mi) 1856

Guam Self-governing organized and unincorporated territory. Western Pacific Ocean; about 5,955 km (about 3,700 mi) west of
Honolulu, Hawaii. 541 sq km
(209 sq mi) 1898

Howland Island Unincorporated territory under the authority of the Fish and Wildlife Service. Central Pacific Ocean; about 2,600 km (about 1,620 mi) southwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 1.89 sq km
(.73 sq mi) 1856

Jarvis Island Unincorporated territory under the authority of the Fish and Wildlife Service. Central Pacific Ocean; about 2,000 km (about 1,300 mi) south of Honolulu, Hawaii. 4.4 sq km
(1.8 sq mi) 1856

Johnston Atoll Unincorporated territory managed by the Fish and Wildlife Service. Central Pacific Ocean; about 1,100 km (about 700 mi) southwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 2.8 sq km
(1.1 sq mi) 1858

Kingman Reef Unincorporated territory under the authority of the Department of the Navy. Central Pacific Ocean; about 1,730 km (about 1,075 mi) southwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 1 sq km
(.4 sq mi) 1922

Midway Islands Unincorporated territory managed by the Fish and Wildlife Service. Central Pacific Ocean; about 2,100 km (about 1,300 mi) northwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 5.2 sq km
(2.0 sq mi) 1867

Navassa Island Unincorporated territory under the authority of the Department of the Interior. Caribbean Ocean; about 56 km (about 35 mi) west of Haiti. 5.2 sq km
(2.0 sq mi) 1856

Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands Commonwealth associated with the United States. Western Pacific Ocean; about 160 km (about 100 mi) northeast of Guam. 464 sq km
(179 sq mi) 1947

Palmyra Atoll Privately owned unincorporated territory under the authority of the Department of the Interior. Central Pacific Ocean; about 1,700 km (about 1,100 mi) southwest of Honolulu, Hawaii. 5.2 sq km
(2.0 sq mi) 1898

Puerto Rico Commonwealth associated with the United States. West Indies; about 1,600 km (about 1,000 mi) southeast of Miami, Florida. 8,876 sq km
(3,427 sq mi) 1898

Virgin Islands of the United States Organized and unincorporated territory under the authority of the Department of the Interior. West Indies; about 64 km (about 40 mi) west of
Puerto Rico. 344 sq km
(133 sq mi) 1917

Wake Island Unincorporated territory under the authority of the Space and Strategic Defense Command. Central Pacific Ocean; about 3,700 km (about 2,300 mi) west of Honolulu, Hawaii. 8 sq km
(3 sq mi) 1898
Definitions of terms used in this table: 'Unincorporated' means that not all provisions of the United States Constitution apply to the territory. 'Unorganized' means that the United States government has not passed an act to organize a government for the territory.


note Puerto Rico is a territory but maybe encarta is wrong

and check the first link

is a commonwealth in assosation with the united states

not of the united states

for shame for shame

on you attacking and slandering me saying i am ignorant

plz refrain from personal attacks as they are against the rules






Fanta46's photo
Mon 07/16/07 05:59 PM
Puerto Rico is self governing, its residents are citizens of the US. However, they do not have the right to vote in presidential elections, nor do they pay Federal taxes.
Yhe chief of state in Puerto Rico is the President of the US, and we control all interstate trade, foreign relations, and pratically everything else, including immigration and emigration.
They do have a represenative in both houses of our government, but they are not allowed to vote on any legislation.

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 06:04 PM
Definitions of United States Territories on the Web:

* An insular area of the United States is a jurisdiction that is neither a part of one of the fifty states nor a part of the District of Columbia, the nation's federal district.

from

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=4Ib&defl=en&q=define:United+States+Territories&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Fanta46's photo
Mon 07/16/07 06:25 PM
The U.S. has twelve unincorporated territories, also known as possessions, and two commonwealths. The major possessions are American Samoa, Guam, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. The major commonwealths are Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana. The residents of all of these places are full U.S. citizens, with the exception of those on American Samoa who are U.S. nationals, but not citizens. (U.S. Commonwealths/Territories: American Samoa, Baker Island, Howland Island, Guam, Jarvis Island, Kingman Reef, Midway Islands, Navassa Island, Northern Mariana Islands, Palau, Palmyra Atoll, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands (St. Croix, St. John and St. Thomas), and Wake Island).


adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 07:08 PM
Geography of Puerto Rico
From Matt Rosenberg,
Your Guide to Geography.
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Dec 29 2005
A Brief Overview of the U.S. Island Territory
Puerto Rico is the easternmost island of the Greater Antilles in the Caribbean Sea, approximately a thousand miles southeast of Florida and just east of the Dominican Republic and west of the U.S. Virgin Islands. The island is approximately 90 miles wide in an east-west direction and 30 miles wide between the north and south coasts.

Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States but if it became a state, Puerto Rico's land area of 3,435 square miles (8,897 km2) would make it the 49th largest state (larger than Delaware and Rhode Island).

http://geography.about.com/od/specificplacesofinterest/a/puertorico.htm

adj4u's photo
Mon 07/16/07 07:08 PM
Matt Rosenberg is a professional geographer and the author of two books about geography. In October 2006, Matt was awarded the Excellence in Media Award from the National Council for Geographic Education for his contributions to the discipline of geography.

http://geography.about.com/mbiopage.htm

davinci1952's photo
Mon 07/16/07 08:56 PM
you have incredible patience adj4u....drinker

xootbx's photo
Tue 07/17/07 01:27 AM
adju4,
Nice of you to try and twist the words. In association or of the US does not make a difference. You are just trying to play on words.

Also nice of you to leave out thing... From your first link:

"The term "United States" when used in a geographical sense on official
documents, acts and/or laws; includes the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the
Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa."

"United States
controls: interstate trade, foreign relations and commerce, customs
administration, control of air, land and sea, immigration and emigration,
nationality and citizenship, currency, maritime laws, military service,
military bases, army, navy and air force, declaration of war,
constitutionality of laws, jurisdictions and legal procedures, treaties,
radio and television--communications, agriculture, mining and minerals,
highways, postal system; Social Security, and other areas generally
controlled by the federal government in the United States. Puerto Rican
institutions control internal affairs unless U.S. law is involved, as in
matters of public health and pollution. The major differences between
Puerto Rico and the 50 states are its local taxation system and exemption
from Internal Revenue Code, its lack of voting representation in either
house of the U.S. Congress, the ineligibility of Puerto Ricans to vote in
presidential elections, and its lack of assignation of some revenues
reserved for the states."

PR is not a state, I never said it was, it is a commonwealth of the US as the US governs it overall and it is bound by US Supreme court.
Just because the citizens do not pay federal income tax, does not change their status. They do not have the right to vote because of this, based on the foundation of our country, taxation without representation, however they are bound in all other aspects.
Again all people born in PR are also US citizens. They retain all rights of US citizens.

Thus PR is a commonwealth of the US, whether you like it or not.

Based on your logic DC is not part "of" the US because it is not a state or commonwealth.

Now, since you have nothing of substance to say about the original SMO post regarding the location of the IRS, I will assume your only purpose of these last few posts were to show you know something, just not anything relative.

"on you attacking and slandering me saying i am ignorant
plz refrain from personal attacks as they are against the rules"

Pointing out ones ignorance is hardly a personal attack, it is a logical observation based on the posts you have made and the lack of knowledge you poses on the subject. Your going and finding information that does not actually support your own statements does not show knowledge of the subject, just your ablility to find information afterwards.
Your lack of prior knowledge before your posts and making uneducated posts is ignorant.

davinci1952's photo
Tue 07/17/07 06:28 AM
maybe the use of a better word is in order xootbx...
instead of accusing everyone of being ignorant ...obviously
something that gives you perverse pleasure, maybe you should try
a word like uninformed....of course that would infer that you respect
the opinions of others..which is in serious doubt I'm afraid...

carry on in your little world...

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/17/07 07:11 AM
stores that sell name brand products

are in association with the company that manufactures said product

they are not of the comapany tha manufacters said product

i copy and pasted -- no twisting

you edited -- editing is possibly twisting

yes peurto rico is a common wealth on it own

and being a territory of the united states it comes under
federal jurisdiction


but then again maybe encata

and renowned geographer Matt Rosenburg

are also

IGNORANT as you say

bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile

kidatheart70's photo
Tue 07/17/07 07:40 AM
drinker Bill and Robindrinker

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/17/07 10:52 AM
drinker drinker

Fanta46's photo
Tue 07/17/07 11:57 AM
laugh laugh laugh
You missed the part that residents of Puerto Rico are US citizens!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh