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Topic: the minute you say you need me...
msharmony's photo
Sun 09/18/11 10:52 AM


I'm gone...thoughts?


I think it's a little too "blanket statement," but I'd agree with the overall premise, if we're talking "I need you in order to function."

There's a difference between "I really need to talk to you about something" and "I can't live without you."



THIS.


and the
'need you because I love you' thing,,lol




I think its a turn off for someone to not be able to FUNCTION without another person,


ITs not a turn off though, for someone to appreciate the significance of someone else that is in their life


Perhaps, it makes it easier to understand when we clarify. INstead of 'I need you.'

'I need you because,,,,,' (if it ends with I Cant live without you,, run but if it ends in something like how important you are, or how much of a difference you make,, take it as a compliment)

no photo
Sun 09/18/11 11:08 AM


well, yes

a difference between I need you (because I want your luvin)

and being needy....


if it's a long term partner tho - even then we're all needy sometimes, I guess. Even if we don;t "look " needy - being too independent can leave emotional needs unmet, I think
I agree...Most people probably view me as a "rock" and a super strong person. But this isn't true at all times...I go through internal conflicts and feel "lost" when I can't find "easy answers" to problems...I'm human! I need help and a shoulder to lean on at times too!...My husband understood me when he was alive. He knew when I was becoming "flustered." He had a way of comforting me and lending support without making me feel stupid! (And vica-versa! I helped him get through "rough patches" too.)...Now that my husband is gone everyone around me expects me to be strong all the time. I have to keep reminding family members and friends that I am not "super woman." I am not made of "steel!" I'm a human being just like they are and I get "stumped" and "down" at times too!


u could have taken these words right from my mouth. I am proud that I can be resourceful, but I do not to be needy to need love help and time w/ friends, loved ones

indianadave4's photo
Sun 09/18/11 09:57 PM

well, yes

a difference between I need you (because I want your luvin)

and being needy....


if it's a long term partner tho - even then we're all needy sometimes, I guess. Even if we don;t "look " needy - being too independent can leave emotional needs unmet, I think


Before saying "I don't need anyone" we need to define the term NEED

kelp1961's photo
Sun 09/18/11 10:15 PM


Oh there is no doubt, to a certain level it is me....after having raised four kids on my own, one more person (a grown person at that) needing me is just not something I want or need to hear...further, to me it is a signal or warning sign of a potentially unhealthy attachment....no?
It took me quite awhile to realize that my husband wasn't out to "drain me." We were just friends at first so I had time to get to know him and trust him...Being married to him made my life easier and happier...We both took turns cooking and cleaning and everything wasn't just on my shoulders anymore. We "shared" everything together and he was my best friend...After 2 "failed" marriages earlier in life I didn't plan on getting married again. I was pretty "burnt out." It was hard for me to trust anyone and I didn't want to get involved with anyone anymore...But down the road I met my "last" husband and we were happily married for nearly 25 years. (Until he passed away last year.)...All men are not the same!! This is what I learned anyway! Good luck finding your "needle in a haystack" someday too!


thank you Greeneyes and thank you for sharing..I'm so sorry for your loss...sounds like you had exactly what we all dream of..what a great testament to a balanced relationship.smile2

GreenEyes48's photo
Mon 09/19/11 07:12 AM
kelp1961...Thanks for your post! I took time out after my first 2 failed marriages to "find myself" and "change my script!"...If I would have continued on the "same old path" I'm sure I would have kept meeting the same type of men over and over again! During my "recovery" I wrote down all of the qualities I wanted and needed in a man...."Traditional men" aren't usually a good match for me because I don't like to play out strict gender roles...I don't like to play "little woman" in the kitchen and be stuck with all of the cooking and clean-up everyday or housework etc...I enjoy cooking and inventing new recipes but I wanted a partner in the kitchen and a partner when it comes to all aspects of life!...My "last" husband loved to invent new recipes too. And he grew veggies in his garden and "canned" tomato sauce etc. He loved to bake too!...We shared everything together and I didn't have to "play maid!" Plus we started new businesses together and had daily discussions about "everything under the sun!"....He loved to dance and I did too! We kept "romance alive" in our relationship by going out dancing a lot and singing and "playing" together! We took fun vacations when we could....He was "open" to anything and everything! Neither one of us wanted to become "stuck in ruts!" Sad that he is gone now. But he will always be with me "in spirit!"

indianadave4's photo
Wed 09/21/11 07:39 PM

co dependent..that is such a catch phrase...I tend to think of the extreme needy person when using that....


Why do some women make the following equation: need = needy. Men and women have a natural "need" of opposite sex companionship. It's natural and build in. "Needy" people are codependent. Huge difference.

Need does not equal needy!

miko1960's photo
Wed 09/21/11 08:41 PM
I need a sandwich:banana: :banana:

no photo
Wed 09/21/11 09:14 PM


co dependent..that is such a catch phrase...I tend to think of the extreme needy person when using that....


Why do some women make the following equation: need = needy. Men and women have a natural "need" of opposite sex companionship. It's natural and build in. "Needy" people are codependent. Huge difference.

Need does not equal needy!

I have to comment here, I by nature, am somewhat co-dependent. BUT I am far from needy. I think you have to be careful when someone says they need you. WHY do they need you? I used to tell my now ex husband I don;t need you I want you here.
Some people need a partner for strength, stability, guidance.
I understand that, but some people just need a partner because they are not good alone.

navygirl's photo
Wed 09/21/11 09:50 PM



co dependent..that is such a catch phrase...I tend to think of the extreme needy person when using that....


Why do some women make the following equation: need = needy. Men and women have a natural "need" of opposite sex companionship. It's natural and build in. "Needy" people are codependent. Huge difference.

Need does not equal needy!

I have to comment here, I by nature, am somewhat co-dependent. BUT I am far from needy. I think you have to be careful when someone says they need you. WHY do they need you? I used to tell my now ex husband I don;t need you I want you here.
Some people need a partner for strength, stability, guidance.
I understand that, but some people just need a partner because they are not good alone.



Well said. I have some friends that just can't go it alone and they can't figure out how I can do it. I think with me; I have been alone for so long; that I am set in my ways so I just don't see me needing anyone in my life; but I certainly do enjoy the company of my friends and family.

no photo
Thu 09/22/11 11:55 AM
I think that I am too independent and self reliant to say to anyone (outside of my immediate family), that “I need you”.

Although I am a very supportive person, I would be concerned if my partner told me that he needed me because in my mind, it would suggest dependency. I wouldn’t want my own children to be dependent on me once they’d adulthood but I would continue to support them and want the best for them for the rest of my life.

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Thu 09/22/11 12:07 PM
Edited by indianadave4 on Thu 09/22/11 12:08 PM

I think that I am too independent and self reliant to say to anyone (outside of my immediate family), that “I need you”.

Although I am a very supportive person, I would be concerned if my partner told me that he needed me because in my mind, it would suggest dependency. I wouldn’t want my own children to be dependent on me once they’d adulthood but I would continue to support them and want the best for them for the rest of my life.



Question:

If one, truly, found someone and over time love really developed would we find ourselves in need of continuing to experience the joy of that love?

no photo
Thu 09/22/11 12:26 PM
I don't equate love with dependency. They are like ying and yang in my mind.

navygirl's photo
Fri 09/23/11 08:34 PM

I think that I am too independent and self reliant to say to anyone (outside of my immediate family), that “I need you”.

Although I am a very supportive person, I would be concerned if my partner told me that he needed me because in my mind, it would suggest dependency. I wouldn’t want my own children to be dependent on me once they’d adulthood but I would continue to support them and want the best for them for the rest of my life.



Yep, I agree 100% about someone being dependent if they said they needed you. Need comes from the word needy and that is never a good thing in a relationship. :thumbsup:

kelp1961's photo
Fri 09/23/11 09:56 PM


I think that I am too independent and self reliant to say to anyone (outside of my immediate family), that “I need you”.

Although I am a very supportive person, I would be concerned if my partner told me that he needed me because in my mind, it would suggest dependency. I wouldn’t want my own children to be dependent on me once they’d adulthood but I would continue to support them and want the best for them for the rest of my life.



Question:

If one, truly, found someone and over time love really developed would we find ourselves in need of continuing to experience the joy of that love?

I do think, based on my own experience, the emotions can be so intense we can become quite unwell from the thought alone of losing that joy (or is it just what we have grown accustomed to?)...the strong desire to maintain that existence can manifest into something that feels very much like a need...but it is not truly a need and if you don't keep your head about ya, go thru the proper grieving stages and remind yourself, this too shall pass,...you end up doing some crazy sh**! ohwell

mightymoe's photo
Fri 09/23/11 10:07 PM

what if i just couldnt reach the soap?

never drop the soap...

kelp1961's photo
Fri 09/23/11 10:08 PM



I'm gone...thoughts?


I think it's a little too "blanket statement," but I'd agree with the overall premise, if we're talking "I need you in order to function."

There's a difference between "I really need to talk to you about something" and "I can't live without you."



THIS.


and the
'need you because I love you' thing,,lol




I think its a turn off for someone to not be able to FUNCTION without another person,


ITs not a turn off though, for someone to appreciate the significance of someone else that is in their life


Perhaps, it makes it easier to understand when we clarify. INstead of 'I need you.'

'I need you because,,,,,' (if it ends with I Cant live without you,, run but if it ends in something like how important you are, or how much of a difference you make,, take it as a compliment)

I hear ya. I do get that it is often just something that is said to express the deep feelings one has for another...and I do have my wits enough(or I hope I do) about me to be able to ascertain the difference...so maybe I wouldn't run...but I would not be entralled by the statement and would do some serious evaluation of the situation.

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