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Topic: Who Supports These Precious Values
Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 11:09 AM
Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 11/18/11 11:36 AM
I'm a firm believer as long as it does not offend others or causes problems with what another believes...

We all have the right to believe in what we wish as long as we don't believe that others should believe in what we do...whoa

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 11:44 AM

I'm a firm believer as long as it does not offend others or causes problems with what another believes...

We all have the right to believe in what we wish as long as we don't believe that others should believe in what we do...whoa


As i stated I am a firm believer in all four.

You or any individual can say what you like, I may not agree with you but I would defend your right to say it. As long as it is within the laws of the country.drinker

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/18/11 06:34 PM

Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four



I believe in all four, I think most people do. I just think some people have an issue when others 'express' their opinions of how those people 'express' themself....lol

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 11/18/11 08:22 PM


Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four



I believe in all four, I think most people do. I just think some people have an issue when others 'express' their opinions of how those people 'express' themself....lol


Yes msharmony, some don't like others opinions. They are intolerant of opinions divergent from their own.

I support

Freedom

Right to live your life the way you want

etc., as long as it doesn't step on rights of others.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 08:31 PM


Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four



I believe in all four, I think most people do. I just think some people have an issue when others 'express' their opinions of how those people 'express' themself....lol


Those people will just have to get a second opiniondrinker

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 08:36 PM



Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four



I believe in all four, I think most people do. I just think some people have an issue when others 'express' their opinions of how those people 'express' themself....lol




Yes msharmony, some don't like others opinions. They are intolerant of opinions divergent from their own.

I support

Freedom

Right to live your life the way you want

etc., as long as it doesn't step on rights of others.


The rights of others would be protected in the law of the land I presume.

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 11/18/11 08:52 PM




Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four



I believe in all four, I think most people do. I just think some people have an issue when others 'express' their opinions of how those people 'express' themself....lol




Yes msharmony, some don't like others opinions. They are intolerant of opinions divergent from their own.

I support

Freedom

Right to live your life the way you want

etc., as long as it doesn't step on rights of others.


The rights of others would be protected in the law of the land I presume.


Freedom of press comes to mind on that subject.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:31 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 11/18/11 09:32 PM



Freedom of press comes to mind on that subject.


Do we really have a free press??

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:34 PM
Generally these sound pretty good to me. I do think one person's freedom ends when it starts getting into another's. As an artist myself I like creative license but I think that has limits in public venues where people who might have other tastes could be upset.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:37 PM

Generally these sound pretty good to me. I do think one person's freedom ends when it starts getting into another's. As an artist myself I like creative license but I think that has limits in public venues where people who might have other tastes could be upset.


If people have freedom of movement then they have freedom of choice.

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:38 PM

Generally these sound pretty good to me. I do think one person's freedom ends when it starts getting into another's. As an artist myself I like creative license but I think that has limits in public venues where people who might have other tastes could be upset.


I was ticked at Robert Maplethorp (I think that's his name) photography being sponsored by the NEA. I, for one, found it disgusting. He's the one that took pics of a guy wizzing into someone's mouth as art. But, eh, artistic freedom you know?

no photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:46 PM
Good topic!!

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:50 PM

Good topic!!


Thank You

Jenknee's photo
Fri 11/18/11 09:57 PM
For artistic expression, I think some of it needs to be in an enclosed gallery in a privately owned place.

Not too long ago I saw a recent video that was of supposed art being performed, where the so-called artist was doing a lousy job of painting body art on nearly nude models on the very public, busy sidewalk in NYC with kids walking by. It was wrong in my opinion and I was disappointed that it was allowed.


Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 10:42 PM

For artistic expression, I think some of it needs to be in an enclosed gallery in a privately owned place.

Not too long ago I saw a recent video that was of supposed art being performed, where the so-called artist was doing a lousy job of painting body art on nearly nude models on the very public, busy sidewalk in NYC with kids walking by. It was wrong in my opinion and I was disappointed that it was allowed.



As long as it was within the law it's OK.

Are you objecting to the lousy job of the so-called artist?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 11/18/11 10:45 PM

I'm a firm believer as long as it does not offend others or causes problems with what another believes...

We all have the right to believe in what we wish as long as we don't believe that others should believe in what we do...whoa


that makes no sense... we are free to believe what we want, as long as it doesn't offend others? think about that for a while...

Jenknee's photo
Fri 11/18/11 11:00 PM


For artistic expression, I think some of it needs to be in an enclosed gallery in a privately owned place.

Not too long ago I saw a recent video that was of supposed art being performed, where the so-called artist was doing a lousy job of painting body art on nearly nude models on the very public, busy sidewalk in NYC with kids walking by. It was wrong in my opinion and I was disappointed that it was allowed.



As long as it was within the law it's OK.

Are you objecting to the lousy job of the so-called artist?


I don't have the time or inclination for a discussion. I dont know the laws for public nudity in NYC. My opinion was the art sucked and I also did not like what it was displayed on, which were mostly nude to nude models, got it? I thought I was pretty clear with my opinion but apparently not clear enough for you.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 11/18/11 11:17 PM



For artistic expression, I think some of it needs to be in an enclosed gallery in a privately owned place.

Not too long ago I saw a recent video that was of supposed art being performed, where the so-called artist was doing a lousy job of painting body art on nearly nude models on the very public, busy sidewalk in NYC with kids walking by. It was wrong in my opinion and I was disappointed that it was allowed.



As long as it was within the law it's OK.

Are you objecting to the lousy job of the so-called artist?


I don't have the time or inclination for a discussion. I dont know the laws for public nudity in NYC. My opinion was the art sucked and I also did not like what it was displayed on, which were mostly nude to nude models, got it? I thought I was pretty clear with my opinion but apparently not clear enough for you.


I have no desire to discuss either but you obviously were objecting to the nudity but decided to cloud your statement with a side issue.

Why should nudity upset children or anyone for that matter.?




ArtGurl's photo
Fri 11/18/11 11:25 PM
Edited by ArtGurl on Fri 11/18/11 11:25 PM

Openness

Pluralism

Freedom of expression

Artistic freedom


I am a firm Believer in All Four



Generally speaking I would wholeheartedly agree




If people have freedom of movement then they have freedom of choice.



I am very open about art and tend to like things that push people out of their comfort zones and make them explore new perspectives

however ...


Guillermo Vargas - it is way beyond a "freedom of movement and freedom of choice" when you starve a dog in the name of art...some things just go too far.




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