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Topic: A brief history of False Flags
Bestinshow's photo
Thu 12/15/11 01:21 PM
short list of all the false flag events used to justify wars, remove civil liberties, and bolster police states throughout human history.

47 BC: Julius Caesar used a series of riots and arson attacks that he paid for and commanded to destabilise the Roman Republic before marching his Legions across the Rubicon and into Rome, where he took power and declared himself Emperor.

64 AD: The Emperor Nero deliberately allowed Rome to be burned in a series of arson attacks in order to blame them upon the emerging Christian sects in order to set them up for persecution as enemies of the state, thus enabling their bloody persecution.
P. Brennan: There is a gap in my historical knowledge here. I am sure that there were many other False Flag events between 64 AD and 1898 AD that I have yet to research.
1898 AD: The sinking of the USS Maine, even though it was a tragic accident and not an act of war by Spain, it was used as a False Flag by the American Administration to justify the Spanish-American War.
1914 AD: The Assassination of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo was blamed on the Bosnians and sparked off the First World War. The Assassins were actually working under the orders of the British Secret Service.
1914-1918 AD: Various riots broke out in Italy during the First World War by factions that were in favour of Italy’s role with the Allies in order to silence dissent against Italy’s continuing participation in military actions against Austria. What is little known is that it was Benito Mussolini’s faction of thugs that sparked off these riots as at this time he was working for MI5 as a British secret service agent.
1933 AD: Rohm’s SA set fire to the Reichstag in order for Hitler to be able to blame it on the Communists, thus enabling him to crack down on his main political rivals with devastating effect, as well as construct his police state in post Weimar Republic Germany. The Reichstag Fire is so infamous in modern history that false flags are often referred to as “Reichstag Events”.
1939 AD: The SS mounted a False Flag event on the border of Poland and Germany so that Hitler could claim that Poland had attacked Germany first in order to justify his invasion of Poland to the German People. This event led directly to the Declaration of War by the United Kingdom and France on Germany, and the start of the Second World War.
1942 AD: After failing to goad Germany into declaring war on America by sinking German U-Boats in the North Atlantic, the American Administration had to find another way to drag an isolationist America into the Second World War. Fortunately for President Roosevelt, the Empire of Japan had just declared that they were joining the Axis Powers and had started their Imperial expansions into the Far East and were therefore already at hot war with both the People’s Republic of China and the Allies. The American Navy moved to harassing Japanese merchant shipping in the Pacific, using their submarines to sink numerous Japanese fuel tankers. Of course, Japan had to react to this covert act of war, and made plans to attack the Americans. Knowing this, the American Navy moved a proportion of their vessels to Hawaii, and due to their having already broken Japanese codes and cyphers, knew full well that the Japanese were planning to attack Pearl Harbour. All they had to do was make sure that the commanders at Pearl Harbour had no idea that an attack by Japan was coming and to let it happen, and a formerly isolationist America would be braying for blood, thus enabling President Roosevelt to lead America into the Second World War. All of the above was declassified in July 2010 and reported in the New York Times of that month.
1964 AD: The Gulf of Tonkin attack that led to America’s involvement in the Vietnam War never actually happened. It was a False Flag in order to get the American People to accept a war in Vietnam. This was declassified in August 2010 and reported in the New York Times of that month.
1969-1996 AD: The Northern Irish Troubles was a Forty Year False Flag operation against the British People by their own government for various geopolitical reasons, not least least of all, the government’s desire to lead the British People into the European Union illegally and against their constitution. MI6 ran the Provisional IRA (PIRA) from its inception, using primary assets within the ruling council of the PIRA to conduct the phony, but bloody, war against the British People. One such asset was Martin McGuinness, formerly the Quartermaster of the Bogside Brigade of the PIRA in Londonderry. Meanwhile, MI5 ran the UDA, UVF, and UFF on the other side of the Sectarian Divide. It is believed by the Alternative Intelligence Community that the Real IRA are currently being run by MI5.
1993 AD: The first attack against the World Trade Centre was run by the FBI as a false flag operation. The bomb was cooked by an Arabic Agent under the direct orders of the FBI and handed to the bombers. Fortunately, the bombers did not park their truck bomb right against the wall of the World Trade Centre, thus minimising damage in relation to how much could have been caused if they had actually followed instructions. The Arabic Agent knew that he was being set up and recorded several conversations with FBI agents.
1995 AD: The Oklahoma Bombing could not have been done by a lone bomber with a truck bomb. For a start, they found several explosive devices within the Alfred P. Murrah building after the initial attack which failed to go off. A lone nut could not have managed to plant such sophisticated, military grade, explosives in a government building on his own. There had to be a group of agents with the relevant security clearances to get into the building and rig it with explosives. The truck bomb itself could not have done anywhere near the damage that the actual explosion caused to the building. Local seismic data shows at least three distinct explosions at the Alfred P. Murrah building. Eye witness accounts give witness to strange workmen in the building in the two weeks leading up to the explosion. Eye witnesses also give testimony that Timothy McVeigh was not working alone on that day. Several of the key eye witnesses met with very suspicious ends shortly after the Oklahoma Bombings.
2001 AD: The 9/11 attacks against the United States at the Pentagon and World Trade Centre was a false flag terrorism event by the CIA and Mossad. The body of evidence supporting this is very large indeed, especially with the recent release of 5 tetrabytes of video data from these events by NIST after being sued through an FOIR for it. Testimony on the day from these videos have eye witnesses talking about explosive devices going off throughout the twin towers even before the planes hit, from people inside the buildings at the time, and from First Responders who went in shortly after the planes hit. For further details please refer to my 9/11 Truth section, “Nineteen Eighty-Four Redux: Section One – WAR IS PEACE Part One: The War in Afghanistan“, and WhatReallyHappened.com. The reasons for this False Flag Terrorism Event was to drag America into two illegal wars in the Middle East, as well as severely restrict the civil liberties of the American People.
2005 AD: The 7/7 bombings in London was done by MI5 in order to silence the growing public dissent against the United Kingdom’s continuing role in the illegal Iraq War. The so called bombers were set up as patsies and the three tube bombers were shot some distance from the sites of the attacks at Canary Wharf by government agents. Here is an account of the actual events of the day by a former MI5 agent. WhatReallyHappened has other evidence of 7/7 being a False Flag Terrorism Event, as does this video.
http://www.setyoufreenews.com/2011/01/09/a-brief-history-of-false-flags/

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 12/15/11 01:30 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 12/15/11 01:31 PM
:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 12/15/11 01:49 PM

:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?

s1owhand's photo
Thu 12/15/11 06:04 PM


:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


laugh

Well for one, Al-Qaida was responsible for the WTC 911 attacks.
There is no evidence whatsoever that anyone else had anything
to do with it.

laugh


metalwing's photo
Thu 12/15/11 06:10 PM


:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 12/16/11 01:44 AM



:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.
seriously? they never investigated 911, the cause of two wars four trillion dollars of tax payer money forever gone due to them.

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49d_1190054204
I wonder why

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:29 AM




:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.
seriously? they never investigated 911, the cause of two wars four trillion dollars of tax payer money forever gone due to them.

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49d_1190054204
I wonder why
keep on wondering and use conjecture!:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:35 AM
I, Left Gatekeeper
Why the "9/11 Truth" movement makes the "Left Behind" sci-fi series read like Shakespeare
Matt Taibbi

A few weeks ago I wrote a column on the anniversary of 9/11 that offhandedly dismissed 9/11 conspiracy theorists as "clinically insane." I expected a little bit of heat in response, but nothing could have prepared me for the deluge of ****-you mail that I actually got. Apparently every third person in the United States thinks George Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.

"You're just another MSM-whore left gatekeeper paid off by corporate America," said one writer. "What you do isn't journalism at all, you dick," said another. "You're the one who's clinically insane," barked a third, before educating me on the supposed anomalies of physics involved with the collapse of WTC-7.

I have two basic gripes with the 9/11 Truth movement. The first is that it gives supporters of Bush an excuse to dismiss critics of this administration. I have no doubt that every time one of those Loose Change dickwads opens his mouth, a Republican somewhere picks up five votes. In fact, if there were any conspiracy here, I'd be far more inclined to believe that this whole movement was cooked up by Karl Rove as a kind of mass cyber-provocation, along the lines of Gordon Liddy hiring hippie peace protesters to piss in the lobbies of hotels where campaign reporters were staying.

Secondly, it's bad enough that people in this country think Tim LaHaye is a prophet and Sean Hannity is an objective newsman. But if large numbers of people in this country can swallow 9/11 conspiracy theory without puking, all hope is lost. Our best hope is that the Japanese take pity on us and allow us to serve as industrial slaves in their future empire, farming sushi rice and assembling robot toys.

I don't have the space here to address every single reason why 9/11 conspiracy theory is so shamefully stupid, so I'll have to be content with just one point: 9/11 Truth is the lowest form of conspiracy theory, because it doesn't offer an affirmative theory of the crime.

Forget for a minute all those Internet tales about inexplicable skyscraper fires, strange holes in the ground at Shanksville and mysterious flight manifestoes. What is the theory of the crime, according to the 9/11 Truth movement?

Strikingly, there is no obvious answer to that question, since for all the many articles about "Able Danger" and the witnesses who heard explosions at Ground Zero, there is not -- at least not that I could find -- a single document anywhere that lays out a single, concrete theory of what happened, who ordered what and when they ordered it, and why. There obviously is such a theory, but it has to be pieced together by implication, by paying attention to the various assertions of 9/11 lore (the towers were mined, the Pentagon was really hit by a cruise missile, etc.) and then assembling them later on into one single story. But the funny thing is, when you put together all of those disparate theories, you get the dumbest story since Roman Polanski's Pirates.

The specifics vary, but the basic gist of what They Say Happened goes something like this:

A group of power-hungry neocons, led by Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Bush and others and organizationally represented by groups like the Project for the New American Century, seeks to bring about a "Pearl-Harbor-like event" that would accelerate a rightist revolution, laying the political foundation for invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Your basic Reichstag fire scenario, logical enough so far. Except in this story, the Reichstag fire is an immensely complicated media hoax; the conspirators plot to topple the World Trade Center and pin a series of hijackings on a group of Sunni extremists with alleged ties to Al Qaeda. How do they topple the Trade Center? Well, they make use of NORAD's expertise in flying remote-control aircraft and actually fly two such remote-control aircraft into the Towers (in another version of the story, they conspire with Al Qaeda terrorists to actually hijack the planes), then pass the planes off as commercial jetliners in the media. But it isn't the plane crashes that topple the buildings, but bombs planted in the Towers that do the trick.

For good measure -- apparently to lend credence to the hijacking story -- they then fake another hijacking/crash in the Pentagon, where there actually is no plane crash at all but instead a hole created by a cruise missile attack, fired by a mysterious "white jet" that after the attack circles the White House for some time, inspiring the attention of Secret Service agents who point at it curiously from the ground (apparently these White House Secret Service agents were not in on the plot, although FBI agents on scene at Ground Zero and in Shanksville and elsewhere were).

Lastly, again apparently to lend weight to the whole hijacking cover story, they burn a big hole in the ground in Pennsylvania and claim that a jet went down there, crashed by a bunch of brave fictional civilians who fictionally storm the fictional plane cabin. The real-life wife of one of the fictional heroes, Lisa Beamer, then writes a convincingly self-serving paean/memoir to her dead husband, again lending tremendous verisimilitude to the hijacking story. These guys are good!


Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:35 AM
Just imagine how this planning session between Bush, Rummy and Cheney must have gone:

BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Dick, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers Al Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Dick. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of ****ing nowhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of ****ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, OK.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington, D.C., fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? ****, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:36 AM
You get the idea. None of this stuff makes any sense at all. If you just need an excuse to assume authoritarian powers, why fake a plane crash in Shanksville? What the hell does that accomplish? If you're using bombs, why fake a hijacking, why use remote-control planes? If the entire government apparatus is in on the scam, then why bother going to all this murderous trouble at all -- only to go to war a year later with a country no one even bothered to falsely blame for the attacks? You won't see any of this explored in 9/11 Truth lore, because the "conspiracy" they're describing is impossible everywhere outside a Zucker brothers movie -- unbelievably stupid in its conception, pointlessly baroque and excessive in its particulars, but flawless in its execution, with no concrete evidence left behind and tens of thousands keeping their roles a secret forever.

We are to imagine that not one of Bush's zillions of murderous confederates would slip and leave real incriminating evidence anywhere along the way, forcing us to deduce this massive crime via things like the shaking of a documentary filmmaker's tripod before the Towers' collapse (aha, see that shaking -- it must have been a bomb planted by the president and his ten thousand allies!). Richard Nixon was a hundred times smarter than Bush, and he couldn't prevent leaks and cries of anguished pseudo-conscience from sprouting among a dozen intimately involved conspirators -- but under the 9/11 conspiracy theory, even the lowest FBI agent used to seal off the crime scene never squeaks. It's absurd.

I challenge a 9/11 Truth leader like Loose Change writer Dylan Avery to come up with a detailed, complete summary of the alleged plot -- not the bits and pieces, but the whole story, put together -- that would not make any fifth grader anywhere burst out in convulsive laughter. And without that, all the rest of it is bosh and bunkum, on the order of the "sonar evidence" proving the existence of the Loch Ness monster. If you can't put all of these alleged scientific impossibilities together into a story that makes sense, then all you're doing is jerking off -- and it's not like no one's ever done that on the Internet before.

Whenever anyone chooses to dismiss 9/11 conspiracy theorists, accusations fly; the Internet screams that you've aided and abetted George Bush. I disagree. To me, the 9/11 Truth movement is, itself, a classic example of the pathology of George Bush's America. Bush has presided over a country that has become hopelessly divided into insoluble, paranoid tribes, one of which happens to be Bush's own government. All of these tribes have things in common; they're insular movements that construct their own reality by cherry-picking the evidence they like from the vast information marketplace, violently disbelieve in the humanity of those outside their ranks, and lavishly praise their own movement mediocrities as great thinkers and achievers. There are as many Thomas Paines in the 9/11 Truth movement as there are Isaac Newtons among the Intelligent Design crowd.

There's not a whole lot of difference, psychologically, between Sean Hannity's followers believing liberals to be the same as terrorists, and 9/11 Truthers believing even the lowest soldier or rank-and-file FAA or NORAD official to be a cold-blooded mass murderer. In both cases you have to be far gone enough into your private world of silly tribal ******** that the concept of "your fellow citizen" has ceased to have any meaning whatsoever. It may be that America has become too big and complicated for most people to deal with being part of. People are longing for a smaller, stupider reality. Some, like Bush, sell a prepackaged version. Others just make theirs up out of thin air. God help us.

laugh laugh laugh

InvictusV's photo
Fri 12/16/11 10:27 AM
You left one out..

Nov 2008.. World elite fund young inexperienced black man to be President of USA. The NWO use new President as pawn to get their communist agenda past arrogant Americans that have refused to accept such things as International Criminal Court and Kyoto Treaty on Climate Change. New President ordered to expand debt and drive America into bankruptcy.


Bestinshow's photo
Fri 12/16/11 01:07 PM





:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.
seriously? they never investigated 911, the cause of two wars four trillion dollars of tax payer money forever gone due to them.

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49d_1190054204
I wonder why
keep on wondering and use conjecture!:laughing:
Seriously one would have to be a rube to except the official explanation of 911, it was never researched properly for the main event it was and the changes it created in our country and the world, changes that are worse for just about everyone, dare I say the 99%?

It was a crime scene, the biggest crime of the century and it was investigated with less money that Monicas blue dress, this alone should raise som eyebrows, unfortunatly most americans are so propagandized as to be allmost clueless.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/16/11 01:14 PM






:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.
seriously? they never investigated 911, the cause of two wars four trillion dollars of tax payer money forever gone due to them.

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49d_1190054204
I wonder why
keep on wondering and use conjecture!:laughing:
Seriously one would have to be a rube to except the official explanation of 911, it was never researched properly for the main event it was and the changes it created in our country and the world, changes that are worse for just about everyone, dare I say the 99%?

It was a crime scene, the biggest crime of the century and it was investigated with less money that Monicas blue dress, this alone should raise som eyebrows, unfortunatly most americans are so propagandized as to be allmost clueless.
But you,of Course,have all the inside dope on it?:laughing:
Yet you are still alive and kicking!:laughing:

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 12/16/11 01:22 PM







:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.
seriously? they never investigated 911, the cause of two wars four trillion dollars of tax payer money forever gone due to them.

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49d_1190054204
I wonder why
keep on wondering and use conjecture!:laughing:
Seriously one would have to be a rube to except the official explanation of 911, it was never researched properly for the main event it was and the changes it created in our country and the world, changes that are worse for just about everyone, dare I say the 99%?

It was a crime scene, the biggest crime of the century and it was investigated with less money that Monicas blue dress, this alone should raise som eyebrows, unfortunatly most americans are so propagandized as to be allmost clueless.
But you,of Course,have all the inside dope on it?:laughing:
Yet you are still alive and kicking!:laughing:
Not at all Mr. conrad I was not charged with investigateing 911. John farmer was and this is what he had to say.

"The report revealed how the 10-member commission deeply suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.

“We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us,” said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. “It was just so far from the truth. . . . It’s one of those loose ends that never got tied.”

Farmer himself is quoted in the Post article, stating, “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/04/14/911-commissions-senior-council-claims-we-were-lied-to-about-norad-response/
Why do people choose to stay so willfully uninformed?

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:07 PM
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons:laughing:

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:44 PM
Not many people seem to be able to discuss these things in a rational logical manner Mr Conrad I suggest you use your logic and the evidence that is available and try to form a real opinion you can defend in an adult manner.

andrewzooms's photo
Fri 12/16/11 02:54 PM
You forgot Operation Northwoods! One of the reasons Kennedy was killed.

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 12/16/11 05:28 PM


On 28 June 1914, Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian-Serb student and member of Young Bosnia, assassinated the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in Sarajevo, Bosnia. This is a fact, and if you want to get right down to it Kaiser Wilhelm II was the real catalyst for WWI by refusing to renew the reinsurance treaty with Russia and this happened in 1890.

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 12/16/11 05:30 PM



We should call this "Fallace in La La Land"

MariahsFantasy's photo
Fri 12/16/11 11:28 PM



:laughing: rofl rofl
You really out-did yerself this time!
Mr Conrad as usual your comments are not informative or educated.

Can you please be specific?


Many of these false flag events are a historical fact.

I knew some would take issue with some current ones just as many have suspicions that 911 was a false flag event.

This has been done for centuries so why cant we speculate?


Any real analysis of 9/11 shows that explosives were not used. When you mix garbage with your list, your list becomes garbage.


Where are you getting this information? And how long have you been a loyal O'Reilly Factor watcher?

WTC Building #7 was never in the commission. Silverstein was even on record on 60 minutes saying to "pull it" which is cue to blow a building. Science has proved that flames do not cause a building to collapse. Only a controlled demolition has capability of causing such damage. DO some research.

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