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Topic: Sabbath?
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Tue 12/27/11 10:02 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 10:04 PM
Ok since you want to talk about names how they change from different languages.



Miles..the NAME does NOT change ,just because it is

translated into different languages.



Same goes with translating ALL OF GOD'S WORD into different

languages :

TRANSLATING the WORD OF GOD into DIFFERENT LANGUAGES , does NOT

CHANGE the WORD OF GOD !!!



GOD IS A BIG ENOUGH GOD TO KEEP WATCH OVER HIS HOLY WORD .

GOD'S WORD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER.

GODS WORD DOES NOT CHANGE....GOD'S WORD STANDS TRUE FOREVER.



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Tue 12/27/11 10:29 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 11:28 PM
Here is the NAME of JESUS...TRANSLATED into just

SOME of the MANY different LANGUAGES of the world:


Yeshua - which is Anglicized to "Joshua" in Hebrew

Ježiš Kristus -Jesus Christ in Slovak...

耶穌 -Traditional Chinese

or 耶稣 -Simplified Chinese

예수 -Korean

Yesu- Twi

Greek - Ιησούς Χριστός, "yee-SOOS khrisTOS" = Jesus Christ

Jesus in Greek = Ιησούς, "yee-SOOS".

Gesù Cristo-Italian

Íosa - Irish

Jésus - French

Jezus - Polish

यीशु (yīśu) - Hindi

Հիսուս ,Քրիստոս - Jesus Christ in Armenian

Иисус, Христос - Jesus Christ in Russian

İsa -Turkish

イエス or イイスス-Japanese

Ісус -UKrainian

Iesu (Grist)- Jesus Christ in Welsh

Jesucristo - Jesus Christ in Spanish


SAME NAME OF JESUS....JUST TRANSLATED INTO DIFFERENT

LANGUAGES !!!




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Tue 12/27/11 10:34 PM

Ok since you want to talk about names how they change from different languages.



Miles..the NAME does NOT change ,just because it is

translated into different languages.



Same goes with translating ALL OF GOD'S WORD into different

languages :

TRANSLATING the WORD OF GOD into DIFFERENT LANGUAGES , does NOT

CHANGE the WORD OF GOD !!!



GOD IS A BIG ENOUGH GOD TO KEEP WATCH OVER HIS HOLY WORD .

GOD'S WORD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER.

GODS WORD DOES NOT CHANGE....GOD'S WORD STANDS TRUE FOREVER.



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We understand.. sabbath change , names well whatever.

Ok I get it.

lets get to the Heart of the matter.

Jim Jones, Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson.. All Crazy chr-stians.. everyone would agree.

Why do so many of these people have the same name Jim?

Funny huh?

Must be the j sound..

None of them still do not live up to the Millerites the crown jewel of I'm taken away.. The Rapture.

How are we to live our lives? Taken Away?

While we look down on others even your own kind.

What kinda g-d do you worship?

I'll Take You Away to that beautiful Skies. Where Heaven alone waits.

no,no no

Nothing waits.. It's here and now..

2 Cor 6:2

"In an acceptable time I have heard you,
And in the day of salvation I have helped you."

Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation .
NKJV

With what without?

What is your Salvation. To know mans mind, His Heart?

Oh. Yea Today is the day of Salvation.. So live it.

Not postering by in open rebuke.

Saying Cowboy your not all right.

a patron of the Faith, a Babe in the Word. Looking deep for wisdom growing in knowledge. Your willing to put down. and he's one of your Faith.

Learn in piety sumble and grace.Salvation is LIFE It's not words on a page. You live to serve. at your own disgrace.

Let salvation be scene. the words come to Life.

May YAH show salvation not in a bitter light.

Humble and meek.willing to try.

Let my brother be a friend, good night. Blessings of Yahshalom...Miles


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Tue 12/27/11 10:46 PM


Goodnite to you too, Miles.....flowerforyou



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Tue 12/27/11 11:54 PM
Actually, Benjamin Netanyahu IS the ENGLISH

translation of Binyamin Netanyahu's name...

And

בִּנְיָמִין "בִּיבִּי" נְתַנְיָהוּ is the HEBREW translation of Binyamin

Netanyahu's name. :wink:



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Wed 12/28/11 12:31 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Wed 12/28/11 12:36 AM

Actually, Benjamin Netanyahu IS the ENGLISH

translation of Binyamin Netanyahu's name...

And

בִּנְיָמִין "בִּיבִּי" נְתַנְיָהוּ is the HEBREW translation of Binyamin

Netanyahu's name. :wink:



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How about a good laughlaugh laugh :banana: drool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Hfe5G_wdE

well crap.. i am 2 stupid to make it red.. copy and paste it u will be glad u did..laugh

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Wed 12/28/11 12:41 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 12/28/11 12:43 AM
Now, if we wanted to get real technical and stuff :


in Hebrew,


Yahweh is הוה

and

Yeshua is יֵשׁוּעַ



But then again,

Jesus and His Apostles spoke Aramaic, instead of Hebrew.

And So, we could go on and on and on....


But Thank God, God ain't too concerned with all this technical

stuff...He is much more concerned as to whether or not we

have invited Him to live in our heart.

Amen?

Amen.


It is good that we can all can laugh together though.......:wink:

Laughter is good medicine....flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


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Wed 12/28/11 12:48 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 12/28/11 12:55 AM


Actually, Benjamin Netanyahu IS the ENGLISH

translation of Binyamin Netanyahu's name...

And

בִּנְיָמִין "בִּיבִּי" נְתַנְיָהוּ is the HEBREW translation of Binyamin

Netanyahu's name. :wink:



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How about a good laughlaugh laugh :banana: drool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Hfe5G_wdE

well crap.. i am 2 stupid to make it red.. copy and paste it u will be glad u did..laugh



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Hfe5G_wdE




Fixed it.....flowerforyou





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Wed 12/28/11 02:14 AM
I believe your rite Peter, it has happened

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Wed 12/28/11 01:31 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Wed 12/28/11 01:32 PM
According to those who read and uphold the Old Testament (or other sacred texts from which the Christian Testament evolved) the whole point of Sabbath is that God rested from 6 days of labor.

What did God do before It created the universe and for how long was It so occupied with pre-human history?

Did God ever rest befor that?

Another question that comes to mind: Do humans give God a day of rest or do they expect that God has been and always will be attentative to us and our universe continuously since that last day of rest he took after creating it?

These are questions that make me wonder why humans need a Sabboth day at all?

One more question - Regardless of when you think Sabboth should be, is there anyone here who has NEVER ever made a purchase on the Sabboth?

I only questions that because if you've taken the role of 'consumer' to the market place EVER on that day, have you not considered the fact the you EXPECT to find people working? Do you really think all those people are atheists or pagans?




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Wed 12/28/11 08:19 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 12/28/11 08:24 PM




Scriptures on the Eternality of God:


Genesis 21:33

Abraham planted a tamarisk tree in Beersheba, and there he called

upon the Name of the LORD, the Eternal God.



Psalm 90:1-4

Lord, you have been our dwelling place

throughout all generations.


Before the mountains were born

or you brought forth the earth and the world,

from everlasting to everlasting you are God.


You turn men back to dust,

saying, “Return to dust, O sons of men.”


For a thousand years in your sight

are like a day that has just gone by,

or like a watch in the night.




Exodus 3:13-14

Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to

them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask

me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” God said to

Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the

Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’




Psalm 100:5

For the LORD is good and his love endures forever;

his faithfulness continues through all generations.



Ephesians 3:10-11

His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of

God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the

heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose which he

accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.



John 8:58

I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I

AM!




Revelation 1:8

I Am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who

was, and who is to come, the Almighty.




Isaiah 57:15

For this is what the high and lofty One says—

he who lives forever, whose name is holy:

“I live in a high and holy place,

but also with him who is contrite and lowly in spirit,

to revive the spirit of the lowly

and to revive the heart of the contrite.”



Deuteronomy 33:27

The eternal God is your refuge



1 Timothy 1:17

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor

and glory for ever and ever. Amen.



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Wed 12/28/11 08:20 PM

According to those who read and uphold the Old Testament (or other sacred texts from which the Christian Testament evolved) the whole point of Sabbath is that God rested from 6 days of labor.


Actually that is completely false about the reasoning behind the
Sabbath.

The whole point of the Sabbath is NOT that God rested after 6 days
of labor. The Sabbath is said to be a time which God suggests that
people set aside for introspection and rest because it is good for
us and improves us.

An example is given that God rested but you can't take it to be
anything more than allegorical. Obviously a day according to God
does not have to be the same as a day according to us and also
God does not need to rest for any reason anyway...that much is just
a story. An all powerful eternal being has no need for a concept of
time or any need for rest and labor is effortless. So it is merely
a nice story to make you think.

If you like you may think that God rested even though such a rest
was not at all needed to set an example of how humans might work in
a concentrated fashion towards an ambitious goal and having
accomplished the goal take a time to reflect on the work done and
how things might be improved in general. One might also go so far
as to say that the story suggests that a good ratio of concentrated
work time to rest time is 6/7 work time and 1/7 rest time as related
in the story.

laugh


What did God do before It created the universe and for how long was It so occupied with pre-human history?

Did God ever rest befor that?


The Bible is completely silent regarding what God did before.
The Bible only says what the Bible says - the rest is conjecture.

So there is no point to these two questions. No one knows.
Of course the whole Bible itself is subject to interpretation so
there is a limit to what one knows about even the part that is
written down. But the part which is unwritten is completely
pointless to even discuss. At least the Bible has nothing to say
about it.

laugh


Another question that comes to mind: Do humans give God a day of rest or do they expect that God has been and always will be attentative to us and our universe continuously since that last day of rest he took after creating it?

These are questions that make me wonder why humans need a Sabboth day at all?


God does not need rest - even though the Bible says God did rest.
Humans do not need to give God any rest. God is omnipotent and
omniscient and ubiquitous so we are all a part of God.

Humans need a Sabbath day because we are not God and we tire.
It is helpful to us to have some time set aside without workday
responsibilities for self analysis and to acknowledge our smallness
in the world, to become more aware of the vast beauty of the world
that is the beauty of God, and to plan and visualize a better world.

:smile:


One more question - Regardless of when you think Sabboth should be, is there anyone here who has NEVER ever made a purchase on the Sabboth?

I only questions that because if you've taken the role of 'consumer' to the market place EVER on that day, have you not considered the fact the you EXPECT to find people working? Do you really think all those people are atheists or pagans?


I would not be surprised if there were many people who never made
any purchase on the Sabbath. There have been many communities where
they strictly observed the Sabbath locally and there was no
commerce on those days. The whole communities participated as I
understand it and all shops were closed so it was impossible for
anyone in the community to do business on such days.

Of course there were always exceptions for illnesses and accidents
and services could always be rendered and paid for at a later date.

Such practices of course have never been universal.

People who do not observe the Sabbath in such a way are hardly
atheists or pagans. They are simply people who did not always
strictly observe the Sabbath or observed in differing ways. Not
a big deal.

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