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I think he denied while he was still in the open and easily found to avoid repurcussion, once he went safely underground, more of the truth came out
there is no definitive proof you are wrong or I am right,,but it is all very interesting I didnt sense the kindness you did, I sensed someone who loved whom he loved, like most humans, but who hated who he hated very passionately and Im pretty good at judging as well usually,,,, oh well, I guess it will be like JFK , and if anything else did happen, the statute of whistleblowers has probably passed |
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Like I said, I do face readings. He had a kind face. I can also see sadness, anger, etc. in faces. You can just about assess a person's personality by studying their face. But I also had some other instincts and dreams concerning him, so I started reading up on him long before 9-11 and long before he was ever called a "terrorist."
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I have a feeling that the following video expresses Bin Laden's true opinions and is a confession of responsibility and guilt in the killing of thousands of innocent Americans on 911.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU |
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you're kidding right?
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The above was just one of the videos where Bin Laden praises the terrorist attacks.
Here is a longer history of how he took credit for the attacks: In late October 2001, Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Allouni conducted an interview with Osama bin Laden which was videotaped. Al-Jazeera refused to broadcast it[64] and terminated its affiliation agreement with CNN[65] due to CNN's broadcasting of the interview on January 31, 2002.[66] In the interview, bin Laden addressed the September 11 attacks, saying If inciting people to do that is terrorism, and if killing those who kill our sons is terrorism, then let history be witness that we are terrorists ... We will work to continue this battle, God permitting, until victory or until we meet God before that occurs.[67] In November 2001, US forces recovered a videotape from a bombed house in Jalalabad, Afghanistan which showed a man purported to be Osama bin Laden talking to Khaled al-Harbi. In the tape, bin Laden talks of planning the attacks. Translations from the tape include the following lines: ...we calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all...We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on...Muhammad (Atta) from the Egyptian family (meaning the al-Qaeda Egyptian group), was in charge of the group...The brothers, who conducted the operation, all they knew was that they have a martyrdom operation and we asked each of them to go to America but they didn't know anything about the operation, not even one letter. But they were trained and we did not reveal the operation to them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes.[68] In late November 2002, a letter attributed to Osama bin Laden and translated by British Islamists surfaced, often called bin Laden's 'letter to America'. It states the motive behind the September 11 attacks as being: "because you attacked us and continue to attack us" and justifies the selection of a civilian target. Itemizing a list of perceived Western wrongdoings, the letter concludes that "the oppressed have a right to return the aggression" and hinted at further attacks. Also included are a list of demands, advice, and a statement of grievances against the American government and its people.[69] On February 11, 2003, Al Jazeera broadcast an audio tape purportedly from bin Laden.[70] Shortly before the US presidential election in 2004, in a taped statement, bin Laden publicly acknowledged al-Qaeda's involvement in the attacks on the US, and admitted his direct link to the attacks. He said that the attacks were carried out because "we are a free people who do not accept injustice, and we want to regain the freedom of our nation."[71] In an audio message that surfaced on the Internet in May 2006 the speaker, who is alleged to be Osama bin Laden, defends Zacarias Moussaoui, who was undergoing a trial for his participation in the September 11 attacks. The voice in the audio message says "I begin by talking about the honorable brother Zacarias Moussaoui. The truth is that he has no connection whatsoever with the events of September 11th, and I am certain of what I say, because I was responsible for entrusting the 19 brothers—Allah have mercy upon them—with those raids, and I did not assign brother Zacarias to be with them on that mission."[72] 66. "Bin Laden's sole post-September 11 TV interview aired". CNN. February 5, 2002. Retrieved September 28, 2006. 67. "Transcript of bin Laden's October interview". CNN. February 5, 2002. Retrieved September 28, 2006. 68. "TRANSCRIPT OF USAMA BIN LADEN VIDEO TAPE" (PDF). September 13, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2006. 69. "Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'". London: Guardian Unlimited. November 2002. Retrieved January 6, 2007. 70. "Bin Laden tape: Text". BBC. February 12, 2003. Retrieved October 16, 2006. 71. "Transcript: Translation of Bin Laden's Videotaped Message". The Washington Post. November 1, 2004. 72. "http://abcnews.go.com/International/Terrorism/story?id=1995630&page=1". May 23, 2006. Retrieved September 12, 2006. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks#Osama_bin_Laden_statements_after_9.2F11 For even more discussion. It is not a matter for conjecture and has not been for almost 10 years now. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 12/23/11 02:28 AM
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If you feel better by believing all that contrived propaganda and sleep better at night, then that is fine. I am happy for you. I personally just don't believe it in the slightest. I am unconvinced. Taking credit for "inciting people" to violence and some obscure video is not proof that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with the attack on 9-11.
And Wikipedia is not proof of anything either.  Osman Bid Laden had nothing to do with the attack on the trade center. He was just as surprised as everyone else. He was delighted, but surprised none the less. He probably said... "Oh I bet they try to pin this one on me." |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth!
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Fri 12/23/11 03:24 AM
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. I would say 90% of my coworkers think 911 was an inside job. I remember sitting around bonfire in my backyard with my kids and their friends who are basicly young adults and they expressed real doubts about the event. At this point only rubes and shrills believe all those lies. |
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The above was just one of the videos where Bin Laden praises the terrorist attacks. Here is a longer history of how he took credit for the attacks: In late October 2001, Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Allouni conducted an interview with Osama bin Laden which was videotaped. Al-Jazeera refused to broadcast it[64] and terminated its affiliation agreement with CNN[65] due to CNN's broadcasting of the interview on January 31, 2002.[66] In the interview, bin Laden addressed the September 11 attacks, saying If inciting people to do that is terrorism, and if killing those who kill our sons is terrorism, then let history be witness that we are terrorists ... We will work to continue this battle, God permitting, until victory or until we meet God before that occurs.[67] In November 2001, US forces recovered a videotape from a bombed house in Jalalabad, Afghanistan which showed a man purported to be Osama bin Laden talking to Khaled al-Harbi. In the tape, bin Laden talks of planning the attacks. Translations from the tape include the following lines: ...we calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all...We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on...Muhammad (Atta) from the Egyptian family (meaning the al-Qaeda Egyptian group), was in charge of the group...The brothers, who conducted the operation, all they knew was that they have a martyrdom operation and we asked each of them to go to America but they didn't know anything about the operation, not even one letter. But they were trained and we did not reveal the operation to them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes.[68] In late November 2002, a letter attributed to Osama bin Laden and translated by British Islamists surfaced, often called bin Laden's 'letter to America'. It states the motive behind the September 11 attacks as being: "because you attacked us and continue to attack us" and justifies the selection of a civilian target. Itemizing a list of perceived Western wrongdoings, the letter concludes that "the oppressed have a right to return the aggression" and hinted at further attacks. Also included are a list of demands, advice, and a statement of grievances against the American government and its people.[69] On February 11, 2003, Al Jazeera broadcast an audio tape purportedly from bin Laden.[70] Shortly before the US presidential election in 2004, in a taped statement, bin Laden publicly acknowledged al-Qaeda's involvement in the attacks on the US, and admitted his direct link to the attacks. He said that the attacks were carried out because "we are a free people who do not accept injustice, and we want to regain the freedom of our nation."[71] In an audio message that surfaced on the Internet in May 2006 the speaker, who is alleged to be Osama bin Laden, defends Zacarias Moussaoui, who was undergoing a trial for his participation in the September 11 attacks. The voice in the audio message says "I begin by talking about the honorable brother Zacarias Moussaoui. The truth is that he has no connection whatsoever with the events of September 11th, and I am certain of what I say, because I was responsible for entrusting the 19 brothers—Allah have mercy upon them—with those raids, and I did not assign brother Zacarias to be with them on that mission."[72] 66. "Bin Laden's sole post-September 11 TV interview aired". CNN. February 5, 2002. Retrieved September 28, 2006. 67. "Transcript of bin Laden's October interview". CNN. February 5, 2002. Retrieved September 28, 2006. 68. "TRANSCRIPT OF USAMA BIN LADEN VIDEO TAPE" (PDF). September 13, 2001. Retrieved July 4, 2006. 69. "Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'". London: Guardian Unlimited. November 2002. Retrieved January 6, 2007. 70. "Bin Laden tape: Text". BBC. February 12, 2003. Retrieved October 16, 2006. 71. "Transcript: Translation of Bin Laden's Videotaped Message". The Washington Post. November 1, 2004. 72. "http://abcnews.go.com/International/Terrorism/story?id=1995630&page=1". May 23, 2006. Retrieved September 12, 2006. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks#Osama_bin_Laden_statements_after_9.2F11 For even more discussion. It is not a matter for conjecture and has not been for almost 10 years now. Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. I would say 90% of my coworkers think 911 was an inside job. I remember sitting around bonfire in my backyard with my kids and their friends who are basicly young adults and they expressed real doubts about the event. At this point only rubes and shrills believe all those lies. Struck a nerve with this one! 100% of ignoramuses also believe they are the Emperor of Pluto and doubt the existence of "facts".
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Team America, and then Team America goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money. |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. I would say 90% of my coworkers think 911 was an inside job. I remember sitting around bonfire in my backyard with my kids and their friends who are basicly young adults and they expressed real doubts about the event. At this point only rubes and shrills believe all those lies. Or educated people who look at the numbers. I like how truthers complain that others "are sheep and just listen to what other people say", but then they just post stuff that other "truthers" say. But if you need to think it was an inside job to help you deal with a traumatic situation then thats fine. Whatever is best for your mental state. I can understand how people would feel more comfortable thinking the government had some huge master plan than that people from outside our country could so easily infiltrate and attack us in our own country. |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. the more people required for a successful conspiracy, the less likely it is true there are just too many sources , corporate and otherwise, for it to be likely that it wasnt just what it was said to be because we have a corporate political climate, does not mean EVERY ocuntry does, and it was not just american intelligence which cited his involvement,,, |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. I would say 90% of my coworkers think 911 was an inside job. I remember sitting around bonfire in my backyard with my kids and their friends who are basicly young adults and they expressed real doubts about the event. At this point only rubes and shrills believe all those lies. Or educated people who look at the numbers. I like how truthers complain that others "are sheep and just listen to what other people say", but then they just post stuff that other "truthers" say. But if you need to think it was an inside job to help you deal with a traumatic situation then thats fine. Whatever is best for your mental state. I can understand how people would feel more comfortable thinking the government had some huge master plan than that people from outside our country could so easily infiltrate and attack us in our own country. I dont quite get it either, how believing a preponderance of evidence makes one a sheep and believing the minority of evidence makes one enlightened its just a matter of which information touches us as the truth, I find it very unlikely such a large conspiracy (involving so many players INTERNATIONALLY) could be successfully pulled off,,,,, and I guess many believe all governments are capable and likely to mislead and lie the inconsistency , for me, is how some of the same ones who believe the government is incapable of doing anything successfully, seem to think it is capable of such huge conspiracies,,,,, |
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From the beginning I have always felt that he was completely innocent and an unfortunate pawn of the COMPANY. He fought against the ruthless leader of Afghanistan and set fire to their drug crops so he became a criminal for fighting against the drug trade. He was a religious man. I do face reading, and he has a kind face. I do not and never have ever believed any of that about him. Its almost like I have had a sixth sense about him. He worked with the CIA against the Afghan government. Then the CIA betrayed him and hanged him out to dry basically. I believe this also... Sadam was buddies with 'us' once upon a time to and was also thrown under the bus. Our government..the company, uses people then disposes them. |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. the more people required for a successful conspiracy, the less likely it is true there are just too many sources , corporate and otherwise, for it to be likely that it wasnt just what it was said to be because we have a corporate political climate, does not mean EVERY ocuntry does, and it was not just american intelligence which cited his involvement,,, Somehow they kept the atomic bomb a secret. When it was tested they told the few locals within the area that a weapons depot blew up they got an explanation and they excepted it, its an historical fact to look up. With all due respect to the OP. The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this… Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah… Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes… And hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defense system the slip… Unphased by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely… Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two… and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history. Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground… only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI… …Meanwhile down in Washington… Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing… Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little… Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world’s most heavily defended building… …all without a single shot being fired…. or ruining the nicely mowed lawn… and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video… …Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania… So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later… And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants… except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana… …Further south in Florida… President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read “My Pet Goat” [with] a class full of primary school children… shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger… …In New York… World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously… While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the ‘New Pearl Harbor’ catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination… And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/official-911-fairy-tale/ |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 12/23/11 10:00 AM
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no crazier than the idea that a major airline conspired with multiple governments, from multiple countries, and numerous new york 'witnesses' on the ground, and 'families' of lost loved ones, and employees in those buildings and the buildings around it,,,
to fabricate the whole thing,,, |
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. I would say 90% of my coworkers think 911 was an inside job. I remember sitting around bonfire in my backyard with my kids and their friends who are basicly young adults and they expressed real doubts about the event. At this point only rubes and shrills believe all those lies.  And only Conspiracy-Theorists ignore all the Laws of Probability an Physics!
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Take a few minutes and read the references and learn the real truth! Yeah and you know what they just about all have in common? They're all from corporate controlled media. That quite often equals lies and misinformation. You want truth? It's gonna be in the alternate sources, the ones NOT bought and paid for by the elite. the more people required for a successful conspiracy, the less likely it is true there are just too many sources , corporate and otherwise, for it to be likely that it wasnt just what it was said to be because we have a corporate political climate, does not mean EVERY ocuntry does, and it was not just american intelligence which cited his involvement,,, Somehow they kept the atomic bomb a secret. When it was tested they told the few locals within the area that a weapons depot blew up they got an explanation and they excepted it, its an historical fact to look up. With all due respect to the OP. The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this… Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah… Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes… And hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defense system the slip… Unphased by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely… Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two… and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history. Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground… only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI… …Meanwhile down in Washington… Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing… Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little… Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world’s most heavily defended building… …all without a single shot being fired…. or ruining the nicely mowed lawn… and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video… …Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania… So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later… And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants… except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana… …Further south in Florida… President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read “My Pet Goat” [with] a class full of primary school children… shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger… …In New York… World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously… While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the ‘New Pearl Harbor’ catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination… And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/official-911-fairy-tale/ So far you have tried to make us believe that Mercury has the specific Gravity of Hydrogen,and Water runs uphill on it's own Volition! And you call us absurd? But Happy Holidays anyway! 
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Edited by
actionlynx
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Fri 12/23/11 10:56 AM
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I'm not going to get bogged down in rehashing all this again. So I'll point out a few FACTS, that have been overlooked by this biased retelling of events, in relation to just one line.
…all without a single shot being fired…. or ruining the nicely mowed lawn… and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video… The cameras which filmed the impact shot only 1 frame per second. Scale measurement from maps places the distance across the Pentagon's lawn from road to building at about 500 ft at the widest point. Even if a Boeing 747 was flying at the minimum safe speed of 161 mph, it would still cover 236 ft in a single second, or between frames. At double that speed, or roughly half the normal cruising speed, a 747 would be able to cross the widest section of Pentagon lawn in just 1.06 seconds. So, it's not that the plane was moving too fast to be caught on video, but rather that the camera speed was slow. By comparison... Early silent movies were filmed at 12 to 14 frames per second. Modern movies and TV are filmed at 24 to 30 frames per second. Therefore, this line is leading people to believe that no camera could have captured the plane on video because it was moving too fast. In truth, the plane could have been moving at the slowest possible flight speed, and still not have been filmed clearly because the camera was just too slow even by standards from 100 years ago. A faster frame rate could have captured 6 to 60 images of the plane as it crossed the lawn, depending on both the speed of the camera and the speed of the plane, rather than the one image that was actually filmed. Why would the camera have such a slow speed? It was meant to film hours upon hours of footage. A slower frame rate saves space on the storage media, thereby increasing the number of hours that can be filmed. Think of an old VCR tape that could record 2 hours, 4 hours, or 6 hours depending on the VCR setting. When you changed the setting, you were changing the frame rate of the recording. |
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