Topic: Everlasting permanence
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Fri 02/03/12 08:28 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 02/03/12 08:51 AM
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/02/everlasting-permanence/#more-15709
By this point you have probably read about Jonathan Franzen’s comments about digital books. For example: “I think, for serious readers, a sense of permanence has always been part of the experience. Everything else in your life is fluid, but here is this text that doesn’t change.” This seems to be a recapitulation of the Lee Siegel’s attack on the internet from a few years back. I don’t think Franzen was copying Siegel, rather, he’s channeling a meme which seems to be prevalent in a certain cultural milieu. Carl Zimmer does a excellent job dispatching Franzen’s assertions on the merits. But I think we might benefit from a little historical perspective when evaluating these sorts of claims. After all, the book as we know it is the last in a long line of vessels for literacy.

Five to three thousand years ago cuneiform was state of the art. And if you want permanence, look no further. The tablet to the left dates to 2400 BC! With the decline in cuneiform there is something of a lacunae in our understanding and memory of the literary production of ancient societies. Scrolls of papyrus can certainly keep, but only under ideal conditions (e.g., very dry climates, such as Egypt). The codex, the technology which we know as the book, is more recent than the scroll. But it too relies on relatively perishable materials in comparison to cuneiform.

How is it that we have so much of ancient literature then? First, we don’t. There are constant mentions of great works of Greek and Roman antiquity which were obviously widely circulated judging by the references to them in the works we do have. These background elements of the ancient canon were never copied down to our present era. Why is the copying so important? Shouldn’t we have the originals? The Epic of Gilgamesh was retrieved from the remains of the library of the Assyrians (later literature mentions Gilgamesh, but for these earlier cuneiform copies we wouldn’t have the full work from what I know). This is where the perishable aspect comes in. There are classical-era works whose original production dates back to late antiquity, but from what I have read our modern distillation of the ancient canon is almost entirely filtered through three great bursts of copying at the nexus of late antiquity and the early medieval period:.



- The Arab effort during the early years of the Abbasid Caliphs in the 9th century.

- The Carolingian Renaissance of the late 8th and early 9th centuries.

- And a burst of activity as Byzantium recovered from its assaults by the Arabs in the 9th and 10th century, in particular under the patronage of Constantine VII.

These endeavors were somewhat complementary. The Islamic transmission of great philosophical works is well known, but there was little interest from them in preserving the corpus of ancient Greek humanism, such as the works of the great playwrights. Rather, we have the Byzantines to thank for this. From this, combined with the Carolingian preservation of many Latin works, a reasonable picture of antiquity comes down to us today because of these three independent efforts. But only through the grace of contingency do we have this continuity. The literature of pre-Islamic Persia is lost to us. Why? Perhaps it never was. Or perhaps unlike the Greeks and Romans they did not generate cultural heirs who would patronize the perpetuation of their great works.

Franzen’s concern about the lack of permanence of digital formats has a real basis. But it’s not a vague one predicated on some sapping of the Weltgeist. Rather, there is a chance technological civilization will collapse or retrench at some point in the future. Old fashioned concrete physical mediums not reliant on the “grid” may be necessary backups in that case to preserve memory of the past. Instead of fixating on the death of print, people who worry genuinely about the potentially ephemeral aspect of digital medium should start thinking like the Long Now foundation. Shakespeare on platinum cuneiform anyone?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_now

This particular topic sparks all kinds of interesting ideas for me myself. I always enjoy the sci-fi, or post apocalyptic fiction novels, I even wrote one myself. It looks like some people are taking the threat of loosing our technological base seriously.

Rosetta Project
Main article: Rosetta Project

The Rosetta Project is an effort to preserve all languages that have a high likelihood of extinction over the period from 2000 to 2100.[6] These include many languages whose native speakers number in the thousands or fewer. Other languages with many more speakers are considered by the project to be endangered due to the increasing importance of English as an international language of commerce and culture. Samples of such languages are to be inscribed onto a disc of nickel alloy two inches (5.08 cm) across. A Version 1.0 of the disc was completed on November 3, 2008.[7]
Pretty cool, hey who says we never learn from history! At least some of us seem to be looking ahead and not assuming anything!

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Sun 02/05/12 08:50 AM
Not sure where you're going with this. But as someone who just lost her entire collection of poems due to a crashed computer, having STUPIDLY destroyed the hard copies first, I agree strongly on not putting all one's eggs into one basket. Now.

I was surprised not to see the Alexandria library fire mentioned in the list of reasons for missing literature of antiquity.

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Sun 02/05/12 09:07 AM
I was surprised not to see the Alexandria library fire mentioned in the list of reasons for missing literature of antiquity.
That surprised me as well, I think it is a notable example.

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Sun 02/05/12 09:19 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Sun 02/05/12 09:22 PM
Two sci-fi stories immediately came to mind.

"The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells, published in 1895.

There were no books, everything was placed on 'discs'. When the disc was set in motion on its base, holographic images and sound were the result. But the poeple (the Elans, I think they were called) did not even know how to use them. No books existed, so they never learned to read or write and all past knowledge had been lost to them.

"George Orwell: 1984" Published in 1949. So many books were lost and more being banned and destroyed all the time. People began to memorize their favorite books including publication information, forwards, page numbers and punctuation.

Two amazing writers, their foresight was chilling. As for me, I LIKE my books. I like the new technology that allows us to read at low cost, and read a lot. But there's nothing like going to a great library and feeling totally in awe of the many great minds whose thoughts, ideas and creative talents have moved the world. It's as if by holding those books and reading the words, you are touching all those people.

Here, in this book, is someone worth knowing, there in that book, are ideas that changed agriculture forever, and that one whose author spent many years researching in order to write the history of a nation. And in the science fiction section, the authors whose chilling foresight are idea in wait of a more distant future.

I would never give up my books.

When I was young my heros were all authors.