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Edited by
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I feel for any victim of a crime. So even though I know I do not hear of all of them across the country. This couple was not killed because of their skin color or hoodie though so the similarity isn't really there. Now if the criminal said they were threatening him and jumped on him before this crime would OK have still arrested him? |
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it's only when white's kill blacks, not when a black kills whites... i think i do see a pattern... justice statistics dont quite back that up,,,, really? how come i never hear of a black man charged with a hate crime? |
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what makes MArtin stand out is that the person who is DEAD is not receiving the same benefit of the doubt that he was KILLED,,,and the killer is given the benefit of being a 'victim'
what makes MArtin stand out is he was not armed and the killer was,,, ,, its a HUGE Difference between cases where people have been killed and they are looking for 'suspects' Innocent until proven guilty. Is this not still being investigated? I don't see Zimmerman being givin the benifits of the doubt. If the investigators had enough to charge him with they would. With all the media and people demanding justice, a million dollar bounty being placed on Zimmerman doesn't help the investigation. All it does is hamper it. And taint the witnesses. |
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it's only when white's kill blacks, not when a black kills whites... i think i do see a pattern... That's not true. With the Martin case, Zimmerman is Hispanic. But for some reason the media and the likes of Al Sharpton And Jesse Jackson have made up a completely new race of "white Hispanic" Just trying to divide the country further. And Obama making a statement that he did just goes along with the divide. its not made up,, his mother is WHITE, his dad is hispanic,,,, ah... so you agree with someone calling Obama a white african.. I knew you would come around.. it wouldnt seem as logical to me asthetically but it wouldnt exactly raise my blood pressure either in Zimmermans case, he could be white or hispanic harder to make the grasp asthetically that Barack Obama is a white man if you saw him at a crime scene,,,,just saying its not made up,, his mother is WHITE, his dad is hispanic,,,, I don't see aesthetics being applied to this quote I replied to.. Based on this a white mother and an african father would be considered a white african.. |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Tue 03/27/12 11:34 AM
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its not made up,, his mother is WHITE, his dad is hispanic,,,, I don't see aesthetics being applied to this quote I replied to.. Based on this a white mother and an african father would be considered a white african.. Your color is a description. Your nationality is a description. Where your group of people came from is not, this might matter to genealogy, but as a description its just stoopid. The black people in my neighborhood are no more African than I am. HOWEVER, I do have a friend from South Africa, he does not like being called African American . . . yep, he is white. Although he is actually African American, he has dual citizenship. Any time someone wants to use regional lineage as a way to describe people I cringe. How far back are we allowed to go? By what time constraints are we working? None of that matters, its all political anyways, which means its referent does not matter so long as the portrayal hits the mark for the desired bias. |
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it's only when white's kill blacks, not when a black kills whites... i think i do see a pattern... justice statistics dont quite back that up,,,, really? how come i never hear of a black man charged with a hate crime? I dont know, maybe because they are only 18 percent of hate crime offenders,,,,, and victims can probably be assured of prosecution,,,, |
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what makes MArtin stand out is that the person who is DEAD is not receiving the same benefit of the doubt that he was KILLED,,,and the killer is given the benefit of being a 'victim'
what makes MArtin stand out is he was not armed and the killer was,,, ,, its a HUGE Difference between cases where people have been killed and they are looking for 'suspects' Innocent until proven guilty. Is this not still being investigated? I don't see Zimmerman being givin the benifits of the doubt. If the investigators had enough to charge him with they would. With all the media and people demanding justice, a million dollar bounty being placed on Zimmerman doesn't help the investigation. All it does is hamper it. And taint the witnesses. yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest or else we wouldnt need courts,,,,, |
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it's only when white's kill blacks, not when a black kills whites... i think i do see a pattern... That's not true. With the Martin case, Zimmerman is Hispanic. But for some reason the media and the likes of Al Sharpton And Jesse Jackson have made up a completely new race of "white Hispanic" Just trying to divide the country further. And Obama making a statement that he did just goes along with the divide. its not made up,, his mother is WHITE, his dad is hispanic,,,, ah... so you agree with someone calling Obama a white african.. I knew you would come around.. it wouldnt seem as logical to me asthetically but it wouldnt exactly raise my blood pressure either in Zimmermans case, he could be white or hispanic harder to make the grasp asthetically that Barack Obama is a white man if you saw him at a crime scene,,,,just saying its not made up,, his mother is WHITE, his dad is hispanic,,,, I don't see aesthetics being applied to this quote I replied to.. Based on this a white mother and an african father would be considered a white african.. the officers arrived and saw a white hispanic,, not likely they would have thought him to be black or black hispanic if officers arrived at a scene with obama, its not likely they would have cause to believe he was a 'white' anything,,,, |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Tue 03/27/12 11:36 AM
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None of this matters, becuase racism is in the mind, and minds dont have color.
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None of this matters, becuase racism is in the mind, and minds dont have color. racism is ingrained in the culture and the history,,,this is true,,, |
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 03/27/12 11:58 AM
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Tue 03/27/12 12:08 PM
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying My opinion is anyone who does that is dishonest. None of this matters, becuase racism is in the mind, and minds dont have color. racism is ingrained in the culture and the history,,,this is true,,, What would? |
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying My opinion is anyone who does that is dishonest. I guess we can cherry pick which witnesses account you choose to be valid considering Several witnesses not all saying the same thing,,, |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Tue 03/27/12 12:13 PM
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying My opinion is anyone who does that is dishonest. I guess we can cherry pick which witnesses account you choose to be valid considering Several witnesses not all saying the same thing,,, Later Mary Cruther decided she heard Trayvon crying, except she doesn't know him . .. at all. She wouldn't know his voice from Zimmerman's, so does that really amount to a valid conclusion? No its someone who is emotionally involved with the case trying to reach conclusions she cannot rationally make (sounds familiar). The little boy who was walking the dog, well his statement also backs up Zimmerman's account. Later he decided it was Trayvon crying . . . yea guess what, he didn't know Trayvon either . . . None of this amounts to what you want it to. |
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying My opinion is anyone who does that is dishonest. I guess we can cherry pick which witnesses account you choose to be valid considering Several witnesses not all saying the same thing,,, Later Mary Cruther decided she heard Trayvon crying, except she doesn't know him . .. at all. She wouldn't know his voice from Zimmerman's, so does that really amount to a witness? No its someone who is emotionally involved with the case trying to reach conclusions she cannot rationally make (sounds familiar). The little boy who was walking the dog, well his statement also backs up Zimmerman's account. Later he decided it was Trayvon crying . . . yea guess what, he didn't know Trayvon either . . . None of this amounts to what you want it to. this is conjecture the statements are that there was a FIGHT the statements have various(inconsistent) accounts of what clothes the attacker was wearing the woman hearing someone crying is evidence but not of WHO was crying, just that someone was crying the little boy verified someone was crying and someone was laying on the ground WHO WAS CRYING or WHO WAS LAYING on the ground was not verified by the little boy either so they verify there was a physical altercation but not that it STARTED as he claimed,,,, so all witnesses , so far, can validate is that the two were in a fight,,,,, |
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying My opinion is anyone who does that is dishonest. None of this matters, becuase racism is in the mind, and minds dont have color. racism is ingrained in the culture and the history,,,this is true,,, What would? Yes, but I consider myself a recovering racist racism is like overweight, there are various DEGREES,,,,, some are subconscious and some are blatant and intentional but MOST americans are,, in my opinion |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Tue 03/27/12 12:19 PM
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so all witnesses , so far, can validate is that the two were in a fight,,,,, Your ignoring the guy who saw the fight. He is the key witness who puts it all together.
Without someone who can call into question Zimmerman's statement on how the fight started then there really is no case. Regarding racism, speak for yourself, I am not racist. I grew up with an adopted Vietnamese brother in a bad neighborhood with more people who did not look like me, than did. |
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yes, we have a court system to prove guilt, however guilt doesnt have to be 'proven' to arrest
No but they do need probable cause to arrest. You can't just say he's guilty and arrest him. I know that's hard to comprehend because you have already found Zimmermann guilty. probable cause could be one unarmed person dead on the street and another having the gun which shot him,,,, just saying My opinion is anyone who does that is dishonest. I guess we can cherry pick which witnesses account you choose to be valid considering Several witnesses not all saying the same thing,,, I guess I would side with law enforcement. If they had enough they would arrest him. I'm pretty sure they have more information then the media is letting on. No one is unarmed. So what if Zimmerman had a gun. Did he pull it and threaten Martins life with it? What I he still had it holstered and concealed and Martin didn't know he was carrying, but during the altercation Martin saw the gun and went for it but Zimmerman got to it first? |
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so all witnesses , so far, can validate is that the two were in a fight,,,,, Your ignoring the guy who saw the fight. He is the key witness who puts it all together.
Without someone who can call into question Zimmerman's statement on how the fight started then there really is no case. Regarding racism, speak for yourself, I am not racist. I grew up with an adopted Vietnamese brother in a bad neighborhood with more people who did not look like me, than did. allegedly, no 911 tape released to validate he actually saw it or reported it that night,,, there is someone who can call into question the word of a shooter that the dead person 'started it',,,(so to speak)... the POLICE INVESTIGATION, and the parents and friends who know the deceased |
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