Topic: Divorce
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Thu 03/29/12 05:22 AM
Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".

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Thu 03/29/12 05:58 AM
different reasons.....
1. American women have freedom to initiate a divorce in comparison to some cultures in the other countries
2. American women might jump into marriage too soon and then find out that it is going no where and choose to get out of the marriage
3. Men cheat, women leave. Women cheat, men leave. When boredome sets in, he or she leaves.

Death to us part?......death of what?.......me personally feels that if death of the marriage is of no more, then move forward with the divorce. For example, if my husband cheats on me and gets a girl pregnant, then my marriage to him is dead and a divorce is in the works.

Pretty much a lot of women in other countries tend to stay married for reasons such as: they are homemakers and do not bring any income in, so they stay married for security (financial).
Some cultures, men have more than one wives and divorce is not an option for that woman.

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Thu 03/29/12 07:06 AM

different reasons.....
1. American women have freedom to initiate a divorce in comparison to some cultures in the other countries
2. American women might jump into marriage too soon and then find out that it is going no where and choose to get out of the marriage
3. Men cheat, women leave. Women cheat, men leave. When boredome sets in, he or she leaves.

Death to us part?......death of what?.......me personally feels that if death of the marriage is of no more, then move forward with the divorce. For example, if my husband cheats on me and gets a girl pregnant, then my marriage to him is dead and a divorce is in the works.

Pretty much a lot of women in other countries tend to stay married for reasons such as: they are homemakers and do not bring any income in, so they stay married for security (financial).
Some cultures, men have more than one wives and divorce is not an option for that woman.


I believe it's mainly because people don't know exactly what they are getting into when they get married. Outside of religious beliefs and all, when two are married, they no longer live for just themselves. They are living for the other as well. People don't see that originally and don't see the responsibility they are taking under them. They don't fully realize when they are married, there is no longer one woman/man this week then another man/woman the next, and so forth... maybe not just a week, but hope you are seeing where I'm going with that. People don't realize they are laying down their life for another and possibly giving up something they want in order to please the other. More or less again it's the responsibility towards the other they don't realize when they take on a marriage.

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Thu 03/29/12 09:49 AM

Ephesians 5:

Be Imitators of God


1, "Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2, And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering
and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3, But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you,
as becometh saints;

4, Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5, For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater,
hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6, Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God
upon the children of disobedience.

7, Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

8, For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9, (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

10, Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

11, And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12, For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13, But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14, Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

15, See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

16, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17, Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

18, And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

19, Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing
and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

20, Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

21, Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:


22, Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23, For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church:
and he is the saviour of the body.

24, Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25, Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26, That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle,
or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28, So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29, For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it,
even as the Lord the church:

30, For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife,
and they two shall be one flesh.

32, This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

33, Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself;
and the wife see that she reverence her husband.'


:heart: :heart: :heart: blushing flowerforyou :heart: :heart: :heart:




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Thu 03/29/12 12:19 PM

Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

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Thu 03/29/12 01:27 PM


Ephesians 5:

Be Imitators of God


1, "Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2, And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering
and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3, But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you,
as becometh saints;

4, Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5, For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater,
hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6, Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God
upon the children of disobedience.

7, Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

8, For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9, (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

10, Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

11, And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12, For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13, But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14, Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

15, See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

16, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17, Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

18, And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

19, Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing
and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

20, Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

21, Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:


22, Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23, For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church:
and he is the saviour of the body.

24, Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25, Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26, That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle,
or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28, So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29, For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it,
even as the Lord the church:

30, For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife,
and they two shall be one flesh.

32, This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

33, Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself;
and the wife see that she reverence her husband.'


:heart: :heart: :heart: blushing flowerforyou :heart: :heart: :heart:




Amen...

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Fri 03/30/12 10:20 AM


Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

basically its not about the stigma aspect. I believe many Western women just foot wanna stay back and sort out issues with their men. Marriage is about fully understanding your partner before you commit so that when he starts acting funny, its not gonna be a suprise to you. Please ladies. Learn your man fully before you agree to spend the rest of your life with him. I also see the financial gains many ladies stand to gain from a divorce. Is that a factor too?

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Fri 03/30/12 12:28 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Fri 03/30/12 12:48 PM



Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

basically its not about the stigma aspect. I believe many Western women just foot wanna stay back and sort out issues with their men. Marriage is about fully understanding your partner before you commit so that when he starts acting funny, its not gonna be a suprise to you. Please ladies. Learn your man fully before you agree to spend the rest of your life with him. I also see the financial gains many ladies stand to gain from a divorce. Is that a factor too?


Divorce is meant to carry a stimga.

Marriage is a familial committment and not just a private affair.

Divorce is the breaching of a contract; legal, mental, and emotional.

Part of the reason we have witnesses at our wedding is to vow
or swear to God and those people we will remain with one another.

Marriage creates family ties.

The stigma reminds us that we are breaking ties, hurting ourselves and others.

Divorce should never be taken lightly or casually.

Divorce disolves or loosens the family ties. It should not be thought of matter-of-factly.

We are not loosing a member to marriage, we are gaining a member to our family.

If a family has had closeness, divorce hurts everyone from the oldest to the youngest.

Marriage is also a community or social relationship.

You are now pronounced "Mr. & Mrs"....as the public must regard your union.

Marriage is honorable.



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Fri 03/30/12 09:07 PM



Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

basically its not about the stigma aspect. I believe many Western women just foot wanna stay back and sort out issues with their men. Marriage is about fully understanding your partner before you commit so that when he starts acting funny, its not gonna be a suprise to you. Please ladies. Learn your man fully before you agree to spend the rest of your life with him. I also see the financial gains many ladies stand to gain from a divorce. Is that a factor too?


And what if once the MAN realizes that he is supposed to 'leave his mother' and be responsible for his family so his entire personality changed. I tried to stay with my ex when he did this....until he started raising his hands to me and started screaming at our children so bad that they had to hide under a table in fear.

I was the one with the better paying job, so I did not get any financial gain from the divorce. I actually lost money because he always defaulted on child support payments.

Did I get married with the hopes of getting divorced??? NO WAY...

Did I want to stay married and get beat up all the time or get killed??? NO WAY.....so I kicked him out.

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Sat 03/31/12 02:56 AM



Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

basically its not about the stigma aspect. I believe many Western women just foot wanna stay back and sort out issues with their men. Marriage is about fully understanding your partner before you commit so that when he starts acting funny, its not gonna be a suprise to you. Please ladies. Learn your man fully before you agree to spend the rest of your life with him. I also see the financial gains many ladies stand to gain from a divorce. Is that a factor too?



I dont think we ever know anyone 'fully' because I believe people are continuing to learn and grow from their first breath to their last


I dont think most women or men get divorced because they are going to 'gain' money, they would certainly have as much or more money by sticking it out,,,

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Sat 03/31/12 03:07 PM




Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

basically its not about the stigma aspect. I believe many Western women just foot wanna stay back and sort out issues with their men. Marriage is about fully understanding your partner before you commit so that when he starts acting funny, its not gonna be a suprise to you. Please ladies. Learn your man fully before you agree to spend the rest of your life with him. I also see the financial gains many ladies stand to gain from a divorce. Is that a factor too?



I dont think we ever know anyone 'fully' because I believe people are continuing to learn and grow from their first breath to their last


I dont think most women or men get divorced because they are going to 'gain' money, they would certainly have as much or more money by sticking it out,,,


Yep, maybe not as in an accumulated amounted eg., at one time. But yeah they would have more money together in the long run throughtout time.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 03/31/12 03:07 PM





Why is the rate of divorce higher in the Western countries. Its quite lower in Africa, Asia and s.america. What has happened to "till death do us part".



In a word, stigma


I would think it is stigmatized more in Afircan culture than in western cultures where 'individual freedom' is so cherished,,,,


stigma does alot to discourage behaviors socially, as lack of stigma does alot to encourage and accept behaviors,,,

basically its not about the stigma aspect. I believe many Western women just foot wanna stay back and sort out issues with their men. Marriage is about fully understanding your partner before you commit so that when he starts acting funny, its not gonna be a suprise to you. Please ladies. Learn your man fully before you agree to spend the rest of your life with him. I also see the financial gains many ladies stand to gain from a divorce. Is that a factor too?



I dont think we ever know anyone 'fully' because I believe people are continuing to learn and grow from their first breath to their last


I dont think most women or men get divorced because they are going to 'gain' money, they would certainly have as much or more money by sticking it out,,,


Yep, maybe not as in an accumulated amounted eg., at one time. But yeah they would have more money together in the long run throughtout time.


But then that also plays into them not saving up, and is their own fault for not doing as such.

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Sat 03/31/12 03:11 PM
just mathemetically

divorce leaves one with HALF of the whole they were entitled to while married,,,,

so I dont really think money is as much a motivator to divorce as unhappiness or discontent in general

money is often a motivator to get married though,,,

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Sat 03/31/12 11:54 PM
Too often, we rush into marriage blinded by infatuation( not love). So when the mist clears, we ask ourselves 'how the hell did i get married to you' lol.

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Mon 04/09/12 09:58 AM
i want to meet my dream partner here.how can i find one?

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Mon 04/09/12 11:34 AM

i want to meet my dream partner here.how can i find one?


quite possible.

Love isn't something that is found, it is something that is made. Takes hard work from both sides to make it work. That to is another reason for so many divorces. People don't see the work and responsibility a marriage takes to be successful.