Topic: Israel Bars Entry To Nobel-Prize Author
Optomistic69's photo
Mon 04/09/12 12:52 AM
Not sure but I think Norman Finkelstein isn't allowed into Israel and both his parents were in concentration camps. Norman Finkelstein is a Jew.

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Mon 04/09/12 02:34 AM

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Not sure but I think Norman Finkelstein isn't allowed into Israel and both his parents were in concentration camps. Norman Finkelstein is a Jew.



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Norman Finkelstein is another rabid Israel-hating ideologue who has
cynically exploited the tragedy of his parents in a publicity stunt
career trading in Israel-bashing!

drinker

No wonder you love Finkelstein! Have you ever read his nonsense?
It is laughably ridiculous! He's been kicked out everywhere he has
tried to shamefully peddle it! His only supporters are the Israel
haters!

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I don't know if Israel would let Norman in either but I've read his
ignorant propaganda and it has no merit except as a mechanism to
bring pornographic attention to Norman Finkelstein!

He's made a career out of being controversial and coming up with
cockamamie anti-Israel conspiracy theories and discredited innuendo.

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He's been kicked out of every college, coffee shop and street
corner where he has tried to peddle Finkelstein-inanity. The man
is a joke - in poor taste at that.

I don't think he should be allowed into dog-catcher remedial
training class much less a civilized free country he hates like
Israel.

From the New York Times article on his latest rejection of
academic tenure at DePaul:

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Norman Finkelstein, the political scientist whose bid for a permanent position at DePaul University stirred up charges of anti-Semitism, personal vendettas and outside interference in the hiring process, was informed Friday that he had been denied tenure by the university....

In a letter to Mr. Finkelstein, Father Holtschneider wrote that Mr. Finkelstein is an excellent teacher and a nationally recognized public intellectual but does not “honor the obligation” to “respect and defend the free inquiry of associates.”

In a statement Father Holtschneider said the outside attention paid to Mr. Finkelstein’s bid for tenure “was unwelcome and inappropriate and had no impact on either the process or the outcome of this case.” He added: “Some will consider this decision in the context of academic freedom. In fact academic freedom is alive and well at DePaul.”

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In other words, Finkelstein is an amusing lecturer but writes Pro-Palestian and Anti-Israel propaganda rather than real material of scholarship that is based on factual analysis and objective investigation. All Finkelstein's work appears to be
biased anti-Israel propaganda.

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Do two of you on here really think its some sort of crime that Israel does not want to let a Nazi into their country?


Obviously some are appalled that the Israelis would be so outrageous as to try to prevent access to a former Nazi who writes
anti-Israel literature and advocates against the destruction of
Israel...

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Mon 04/09/12 03:29 AM

so they don't want a Jew hating nazi in Israel...noway
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Mon 04/09/12 03:30 AM

Not sure but I think Norman Finkelstein isn't allowed into Israel and both his parents were in concentration camps. Norman Finkelstein is a Jew.

Stinkelsteen,the Selfhating Jew!laugh

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Mon 04/09/12 03:32 AM

JERUSALEM — Israel on Sunday declared Guenter Grass persona non grata, deepening a spat with the Nobel-winning author over a poem that deeply criticized the Jewish state and suggested it was as much a danger as Iran.

The dispute with Grass, who only late in life admitted to a Nazi past, has drawn new attention to strains in Germany's complicated relationship with the Jewish state – and also focused unwelcome light on Israel's own secretive nuclear program.

In a poem called "What Must Be Said" published last Wednesday, Grass, 84, criticized what he described as Western hypocrisy over Israel's nuclear program and labeled the country a threat to "already fragile world peace" over its belligerent stance on Iran.

The poem has touched a raw nerve in Israel, where officials have rejected any moral equivalence with Iran and been quick to note that Grass admitted only in a 2006 autobiography that he was drafted into the Waffen-SS Nazi paramilitary organization at age 17 in the final months of World War II.

Grass' subsequent clarification that his criticism was directed at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, not the country as a whole, did little to calm the outcry.

On Sunday, Israel's interior minister, Eli Yishai, announced that Grass would be barred from Israel, citing an Israeli law that allows him to prevent entry to ex-Nazis. But Yishai made clear the decision was related more to the recent poem than Grass' actions nearly 70 years ago.

"If Guenter wants to spread his twisted and lying works, I suggest he does this from Iran, where he can find a supportive audience," Yishai said.

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman accused Grass of anti-Semitism.

The uproar has touched upon some of the most sensitive issues in modern-day Israel: the Holocaust, Iran's alleged pursuit of nuclear weapons and Israel's own illicit nuclear program that is widely believed to have produced an arsenal of bombs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/08/gunter-grass-israel_n_1410979.html
Grass is a Piece of Trash,who has hidden his Nazi-Past for years behind his Leftism!
Trash!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 04/09/12 03:35 AM


so they don't want a Jew hating nazi in Israel...noway


And where does it state that?
so now,you decide?
Any other Country has the right to decide who can enter,yet you beleive,and some here believe that Israel doesn't!
Now how is that for a Double-Standard?

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Mon 04/09/12 03:37 AM


so they don't want a Jew hating nazi in Israel...noway
Just be glad you were never drafted into the SS at age 17.......... I imagine if he didnt go he would have been shot eh? Its realy intelectualy retarded even to make a comment like that when it is evident by the article, if you took the time to read it clearly stated.....
Just following Orders,Ha?laugh

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Mon 04/09/12 04:06 AM


so they don't want a Jew hating nazi in Israel...noway
Just be glad you were never drafted into the SS at age 17.......... I imagine if he didnt go he would have been shot eh? Its realy intelectualy retarded even to make a comment like that when it is evident by the article, if you took the time to read it clearly stated.....


He said he volunteered for military service to get away from his parents..

He waited 60 years to tell the truth.. He had said he was in an anti aircraft battery..

He could have come clean when he was nominated for the nobel prize..

But he chose not to.. It says a lot about his character or lack thereof ..




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Mon 04/09/12 04:22 AM
Wonderful World we live in.
America and other. Countries had no problem recruiting nazis after the war and now Some Americans defend Israel for banning a guy who writes a poem about the war....weird

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Mon 04/09/12 04:34 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Mon 04/09/12 04:36 AM

Wonderful World we live in.
America and other. Countries had no problem recruiting nazis after the war and now Some Americans defend Israel for banning a guy who writes a poem about the war....weird


I turned 18 in June 1996..

I will be happy to denounce any Nazis that were brought to the US after that date..

As for Grass... He has lived a life of lies and deception.

I personally don't find the poem that awe inspiring or substantial.

Many have spoken out about Germany giving Israel submarines as part of the reparations for ww2..

It is not groundbreaking.. and it wouldn't have even been an issue if he wasn't a former member of the Waffen-SS and lied for 60 years about it..

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Mon 04/09/12 07:07 AM

Wonderful World we live in.
America and other. Countries had no problem recruiting nazis after the war and now Some Americans defend Israel for banning a guy who writes a poem about the war....weird
so you still want to tell me that Israel hasn't got the right to choose who to admit?

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Mon 04/09/12 07:08 AM

Not sure but I think Norman Finkelstein isn't allowed into Israel and both his parents were in concentration camps. Norman Finkelstein is a Jew.

and he hasn't learned a thing from all that!

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Mon 04/09/12 08:03 AM


I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?

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Mon 04/09/12 08:11 AM



I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?


i'm glad to here cheney instead of bush for once...but this post really belongs in the 911 thread, not here...

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 04/09/12 08:39 AM




I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?


i'm glad to here cheney instead of bush for once...but this post really belongs in the 911 thread, not here...


Yes Cheney is the evil one in my opinion.


As regards the post being in the wrong place...


The insinuation of this thread is that this man was involved in war crimes as such. Cheyney and Blair are modern day equivalents in my opinion so it sits well here i think

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/09/12 09:11 AM





I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?


i'm glad to here cheney instead of bush for once...but this post really belongs in the 911 thread, not here...


Yes Cheney is the evil one in my opinion.


As regards the post being in the wrong place...


The insinuation of this thread is that this man was involved in war crimes as such. Cheyney and Blair are modern day equivalents in my opinion so it sits well here i think



I disagree with your insinuation claim.

He lied about his service during the war.

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/09/12 09:11 AM





I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?


i'm glad to here cheney instead of bush for once...but this post really belongs in the 911 thread, not here...


Yes Cheney is the evil one in my opinion.


As regards the post being in the wrong place...


The insinuation of this thread is that this man was involved in war crimes as such. Cheyney and Blair are modern day equivalents in my opinion so it sits well here i think



I disagree with your insinuation claim.

He lied about his service during the war.

InvictusV's photo
Mon 04/09/12 09:15 AM





I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?


i'm glad to here cheney instead of bush for once...but this post really belongs in the 911 thread, not here...


Yes Cheney is the evil one in my opinion.


As regards the post being in the wrong place...


The insinuation of this thread is that this man was involved in war crimes as such. Cheyney and Blair are modern day equivalents in my opinion so it sits well here i think



I disagree with your insinuation claim.

He lied about his service during the war.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 04/09/12 09:34 AM





I wonder will my Great Great Grandchildren be talking about the atrocities of Cheney Blair and Company in 65 years time.

We could of course agree to put them on trial now and save all the speculation and conspiracy.

I say they and many others should be put in the dock...what say all of you?


i'm glad to here cheney instead of bush for once...but this post really belongs in the 911 thread, not here...


Yes Cheney is the evil one in my opinion.


As regards the post being in the wrong place...


The insinuation of this thread is that this man was involved in war crimes as such. Cheyney and Blair are modern day equivalents in my opinion so it sits well here i think

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Mon 04/09/12 10:35 AM



" Cheyney and Blair are modern day equivalents in my opinion so it sits well here i think "




Being that you are a foreigner and not a U.S. citizen as far as I'm concerned you have no opinion about my government, past, present or future.