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Topic: Gendercide
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Thu 05/31/12 07:39 AM
Gendercide: the systematic killing of members of a specific sex.

100,000,000 unborn girls have specifically been targeted for abortion, just because of their gender.

Ladies, please explain to me why abortion is a "woman's rights issue". Do you support the right of women to murder their unborn daughters, because they (or their husband or the law) prefers to have a boy?

Abortion isn't a "woman's rights issue", it's targeted violence against the most helpless members of our society.

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Thu 05/31/12 07:49 AM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 05/31/12 08:02 AM
Population Stabilization is a big concern in many areas.

It is being proven out in China. Millions of baby girls are either aborted or killed at birth. Leaving them with an excess of male adults. Fewer females means fewer kids born.

I'd like to see a study on what ethnic groups are preferring selective abortion. Would be interesting to see what groups, if any, are targeted for stabilization.

Here, in the US, it is murder to kill a birthed child. Women don't have to admit they had an ultra-sound prior to abortion.

Population Stabilization is Gov generated. Al Gore pushes it also.

This is one of the objectives of Planned Parenthood.



Protecting the environment by stabilizing population growth

http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/pop/

I'll take, What is the best way to eradicate poverty for 100.

The answer is, What is Population Stabilization?

One more point and I'll shut up about it.

What easier way to do this but let the woman think she has a choice?

Every one would raise 40 types of hell if the Gov. supported laws limiting what class of people could procreate, how many they could have. Or to have any kids, be at a certain income level, no?

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Thu 05/31/12 08:25 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 05/31/12 08:29 AM

Gendercide: the systematic killing of members of a specific sex.

100,000,000 unborn girls have specifically been targeted for abortion, just because of their gender.

Ladies, please explain to me why abortion is a "woman's rights issue". Do you support the right of women to murder their unborn daughters, because they (or their husband or the law) prefers to have a boy?

Abortion isn't a "woman's rights issue", it's targeted violence against the most helpless members of our society.


I believe in adoption over abortion, but that is jmo. My main objection to any of it is the issue itself, and why any would think it is proper to impose their beliefs on another, or condemn them for not believing as they do.

My stance is individual liberty on issues pertaining to self...abortion, drugs, religion, thought, speech or lifestyle.... unless it physicaly imposes on the rights of another.... phuck morally indignant a$$hole$ who think they have a right to impose on the personal rights of another.

Control of your own body is not a freedom that can be taken away from the individual, it is a right, which is unalienable under the constitution!

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Thu 05/31/12 08:36 AM
I agree, it's horrible.

The elimination of females has been an ongoing problem for eons.
Taking away a woman's right to choose is NOT the answer,
that is ONLY more oppression.

The problem is worldwide and beyond legal abortions.

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Thu 05/31/12 08:52 AM
Abortion is an issue best addressed by the people directly affected, the mother and father of the fetus, not by a bunch oh holier-than-thou right wing fundmentalists or the government.

Abortions typically aren't taken lightly by the parents. They're emotionally and financially taxing. No one has abortions for fun; but everyone needs to open their eyes to the very real dangers of overpopulation. The Earth is already near carrying capacity. It's evident to anyone with their eyes open. Increasingly limited, more expensive resources, pollution problems, other species nearing extinction due to human encroachment of their habitats.

Wake up, world!

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Thu 05/31/12 08:55 AM

Abortion is an issue best addressed by the people directly affected, the mother and father of the fetus, not by a bunch oh holier-than-thou right wing fundmentalists or the government.

Abortions typically aren't taken lightly by the parents. They're emotionally and financially taxing. No one has abortions for fun; but everyone needs to open their eyes to the very real dangers of overpopulation. The Earth is already near carrying capacity. It's evident to anyone with their eyes open. Increasingly limited, more expensive resources, pollution problems, other species nearing extinction due to human encroachment of their habitats.

Wake up, world!


The very conservative would have you believe that liberals get abortions all the time, as a simple form of birth control. whoa

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Thu 05/31/12 09:19 AM

..Ladies, please explain to me why abortion is a "woman's rights issue"..

Good thing we have solved the problem here, with
abortion being legal.
What you want to do, legislate what is on a woman's
mind at the time, obviously is as silly as trying
to legislate what a man is allowed to think while
having sex.

It is their business, not ours, their choice, not ours.

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Thu 05/31/12 09:40 AM

Control of your own body is not a freedom that can be taken away from the individual, it is a right, which is unalienable under the constitution!


So unborn humans have no rights or freedom, correct?

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Thu 05/31/12 09:41 AM

Abortion is an issue best addressed by the people directly affected, the mother and father of the fetus, not by a bunch oh holier-than-thou right wing fundmentalists or the government.

Abortions typically aren't taken lightly by the parents. They're emotionally and financially taxing. No one has abortions for fun; but everyone needs to open their eyes to the very real dangers of overpopulation. The Earth is already near carrying capacity. It's evident to anyone with their eyes open. Increasingly limited, more expensive resources, pollution problems, other species nearing extinction due to human encroachment of their habitats.

Wake up, world!


The earth is nowhere near capacity. Not even close. More Eco-nonsense.

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Thu 05/31/12 09:51 AM


..Ladies, please explain to me why abortion is a "woman's rights issue"..

Good thing we have solved the problem here, with
abortion being legal.
What you want to do, legislate what is on a woman's
mind at the time, obviously is as silly as trying
to legislate what a man is allowed to think while
having sex.

It is their business, not ours, their choice, not ours.


Legislate...

Okay, let's talk about the law.

From the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Our declaration of Independence states that our rights begin at conception (creation), not birth.

The Declaration of Independence is in the US Code as THE ORGANIC LAWS.

Organic Law is defined as "law determining the fundamental political principles of a government".

So by law, abortion should be illegal, because it violates the right to life of unborn citizens.

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Thu 05/31/12 09:58 AM


Abortion is an issue best addressed by the people directly affected, the mother and father of the fetus, not by a bunch oh holier-than-thou right wing fundmentalists or the government.

Abortions typically aren't taken lightly by the parents. They're emotionally and financially taxing. No one has abortions for fun; but everyone needs to open their eyes to the very real dangers of overpopulation. The Earth is already near carrying capacity. It's evident to anyone with their eyes open. Increasingly limited, more expensive resources, pollution problems, other species nearing extinction due to human encroachment of their habitats.

Wake up, world!


The very conservative would have you believe that liberals get abortions all the time, as a simple form of birth control. whoa


The problem is the whole murdering an innocent, helpless baby. The frequency is alarming, but it's the murder part that really upsets Conservatives and some Libertarians. I don't care how much salt you eat or if you smoke or if you drink large sodas, but Democrats do legislate those things. What I care about is the fundamental right to life that is the birthright of every human being.

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Thu 05/31/12 09:58 AM
If women aren't allowed selective abortion, how else will the population decrease?

More war???

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Thu 05/31/12 10:00 AM



Abortion is an issue best addressed by the people directly affected, the mother and father of the fetus, not by a bunch oh holier-than-thou right wing fundmentalists or the government.

Abortions typically aren't taken lightly by the parents. They're emotionally and financially taxing. No one has abortions for fun; but everyone needs to open their eyes to the very real dangers of overpopulation. The Earth is already near carrying capacity. It's evident to anyone with their eyes open. Increasingly limited, more expensive resources, pollution problems, other species nearing extinction due to human encroachment of their habitats.

Wake up, world!


The very conservative would have you believe that liberals get abortions all the time, as a simple form of birth control. whoa


The problem is the whole murdering an innocent, helpless baby. The frequency is alarming, but it's the murder part that really upsets Conservatives and some Libertarians. I don't care how much salt you eat or if you smoke or if you drink large sodas, but Democrats do legislate those things. What I care about is the fundamental right to life that is the birthright of every human being.


You can be against abortion all you want. As the law stands, though, it's legal. It isn't up to you to decide what women should do.

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Thu 05/31/12 10:16 AM
All this time I thought the topic was about "selective" abortion.slaphead

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Thu 05/31/12 10:43 AM

All this time I thought the topic was about "selective" abortion.slaphead


It's about the slippery slope of abortion. If abortion is legal, then it's legal to kill your baby girls. Abortion is a tool for eugenics. Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood to eliminate minorities and poor people. To this day, you will primarily find Planned Parenthood clinics in poor, mostly black and Hispanic neighborhoods. 50% of all black children conceived in the USA every year are aborted.

Almost all abortions are "selective", because abortion is almost always elective. Abortion is only rarely used as a life saving procedure.

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Thu 05/31/12 10:45 AM




Abortion is an issue best addressed by the people directly affected, the mother and father of the fetus, not by a bunch oh holier-than-thou right wing fundmentalists or the government.

Abortions typically aren't taken lightly by the parents. They're emotionally and financially taxing. No one has abortions for fun; but everyone needs to open their eyes to the very real dangers of overpopulation. The Earth is already near carrying capacity. It's evident to anyone with their eyes open. Increasingly limited, more expensive resources, pollution problems, other species nearing extinction due to human encroachment of their habitats.

Wake up, world!


The very conservative would have you believe that liberals get abortions all the time, as a simple form of birth control. whoa


The problem is the whole murdering an innocent, helpless baby. The frequency is alarming, but it's the murder part that really upsets Conservatives and some Libertarians. I don't care how much salt you eat or if you smoke or if you drink large sodas, but Democrats do legislate those things. What I care about is the fundamental right to life that is the birthright of every human being.


You can be against abortion all you want. As the law stands, though, it's legal. It isn't up to you to decide what women should do.


It's legal through judicial fiat, not law. If the Supreme Court were always right, then black people would still be slaves.

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Thu 05/31/12 10:50 AM

If women aren't allowed selective abortion, how else will the population decrease?

More war???


We have more food in the world than we have people to eat it. Resources are not the issue. The problems in this world are all related to lack of wealth and freedom. Free people are able to generate wealth and feed themselves. But Governments tie their hands and prevent the generation of wealth through policies and force.

Every summer, we see little girls having their lemonade stands shut down, because they don't have the right permits. There are plenty of countries where you can't start a business of any kind without Government approval.

Freedom is the panacea to most of our social ills.

I only oppose abortion, because the freedom to get an abortion violates the right to life of the child.

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Thu 05/31/12 10:52 AM
I am very pro-life and see abortion as murder. And I do understand the issue very well as I once had an abortion. And, it's not a religious issue for me. I simply believe that an unborn baby is a human being with the right to life. So, naturally I find selective abortions even more horrific.

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Thu 05/31/12 10:54 AM

I am very pro-life and see abortion as murder. And I do understand the issue very well as I once had an abortion. And, it's not a religious issue for me. I simply believe that an unborn baby is a human being with the right to life. So, naturally I find selective abortions even more horrific.


Exactly.

I was pro-life before I was a Christian. It took me YEARS to go from "It's a woman's right" to "It's a child's life", but I got here.

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Thu 05/31/12 11:13 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Thu 05/31/12 11:18 AM
If you dont own yourself what do you own?

If what is inside your body is not yours then what is?


Then there is the argument from consequence. Illegal abortion promotes black-market abortion, which is objectively riskier and more damaging to society.

Then there is also the slippery slope of allowing governments to control your body. Once they set that precedent that they control your body for your own well being, or the well being of the potential of a future citizen, then were does that stop, and what logical barriers exist to prevent the slip of personal rights?

There is nothing more personal than reproduction, so it is also an issue of privacy.

In fact this topic touches on just about every rights issue ever.

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