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Topic: Faith Based Temporal Loops In Religion.
AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 08/02/12 08:34 PM
Cowboy.

I was intrigued by your steadfast clinging to your Temporal Loop of Jesus as God.

Therefore I deepend on that subject in the Pool of the Hidden Words.

You have the right of it sir. For you.

It is a moving event that continues to Lift the Human Race to the Apex of Prosperity and Salvation.

My problem with your words is that your loop is not flowing forward at the same pace as the human race.

As a whole Mankind is moving at the Speed of Gods Grace and is well on its way to Glory.

You are moving at the speed of the Oil of Annointment that Crowned Grace upon the Advent of Christ.

Yet I am assured by the Glory of God that there is a Reason for this fact...

so I will not argue the face of God with you.

I am still blinded by his Glory. I can not yet see his face.


CowboyGH's photo
Fri 08/03/12 05:47 AM

Cowboy.

I was intrigued by your steadfast clinging to your Temporal Loop of Jesus as God.

Therefore I deepend on that subject in the Pool of the Hidden Words.

You have the right of it sir. For you.

It is a moving event that continues to Lift the Human Race to the Apex of Prosperity and Salvation.

My problem with your words is that your loop is not flowing forward at the same pace as the human race.

As a whole Mankind is moving at the Speed of Gods Grace and is well on its way to Glory.

You are moving at the speed of the Oil of Annointment that Crowned Grace upon the Advent of Christ.

Yet I am assured by the Glory of God that there is a Reason for this fact...

so I will not argue the face of God with you.

I am still blinded by his Glory. I can not yet see his face.




The word "god" is not denoted to a type of being as in a type of existence. The word "god" is a title. We refer to Jesus' father as "god" because in the english translations anyways, it does not contain the name of Jesus' father.

But Jesus is our "god", our "authority". Jesus doesn't just boss us around at his own whim. His "god" his "authority" is his father, thus he says he came to do the will of the father and not his own and while he was on the cross he cried out "my God, my God".

That is why there may be two different "persons", but yet there is only one "God". Because Jesus may be our God, but he does the will of the father. Jesus is the mediator between man and God.

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 08/03/12 06:20 PM
The word 'God' denotes an existance greater then our measurement of the state of 'being'.

God as a word is not a title but a rather a sound one makes because the actual name of God is a manyfold and to utter such a Greatness is to shatter the very foundations of Reality.

Authority is something you have.

Not something one obtains from a title.

Only men seek authority.

God has it all ready.

He exists beyond the stars into the unseen realms and yet is also smaller than the space mankind calls Planc.

We can not measure God.

Nor can I argue with you about his likeness...

He is not in our Image... We are in His.

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 08/03/12 07:18 PM

The word 'God' denotes an existance greater then our measurement of the state of 'being'.

God as a word is not a title but a rather a sound one makes because the actual name of God is a manyfold and to utter such a Greatness is to shatter the very foundations of Reality.

Authority is something you have.

Not something one obtains from a title.

Only men seek authority.

God has it all ready.

He exists beyond the stars into the unseen realms and yet is also smaller than the space mankind calls Planc.

We can not measure God.

Nor can I argue with you about his likeness...

He is not in our Image... We are in His.



Not something one obtains from a title.


Nothing is gained from the title. The title is given being humble, uplifting his name, expressing Jesus' superiority over us. It's a simple, yet strong word to express such things.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 08/04/12 08:13 PM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Sat 08/04/12 08:15 PM
I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.

As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than.

God made you to be greater than.

Why do I call this a Temporal Loop...

If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining.

The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother.

He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.

God simply IS.


CowboyGH's photo
Sat 08/04/12 08:58 PM

I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.

As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than.

God made you to be greater than.

Why do I call this a Temporal Loop...

If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining.

The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother.

He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.

God simply IS.




Ah, but there is a problem in your equation. No one killed God or ever will kill God. God is eternal.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 08/04/12 09:00 PM

I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.

As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than.

God made you to be greater than.

Why do I call this a Temporal Loop...

If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining.

The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother.

He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.

God simply IS.





I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.


and


God made you to be greater than


Jesus eg., LORD God created me and everyone. Why would the created be greater or superior to the creator? Is the creator not greater then the created?

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 08/04/12 09:03 PM

I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.

As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than.

God made you to be greater than.

Why do I call this a Temporal Loop...

If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining.

The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother.

He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.

God simply IS.





He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.


He took on the FORM of a man. Jesus is not just a man.

josie68's photo
Sun 08/05/12 01:01 AM
Oh Dear, sometimes you make it all sound so confusing..

Obviously Jesus was a man, if he wasn't there would be no point us even trying to be like him, it wouldn't be possible for us to be God, that would be to difficult.

Jesus is Gods son, but we are also his children, so we should be the same.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 08/05/12 05:49 AM

Oh Dear, sometimes you make it all sound so confusing..

Obviously Jesus was a man, if he wasn't there would be no point us even trying to be like him, it wouldn't be possible for us to be God, that would be to difficult.

Jesus is Gods son, but we are also his children, so we should be the same.



A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us.


John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
=====================

And you say there is no use in trying to be like him if he were God? Nobody said you had to be 100% like him, nor that it was possible. We are to obey his commandments.

Psalm 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:34
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?




AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:11 PM


I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.

As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than.

God made you to be greater than.

Why do I call this a Temporal Loop...

If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining.

The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother.

He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.

God simply IS.




Ah, but there is a problem in your equation. No one killed God or ever will kill God. God is eternal.

ayeeeee. But you speak the answer and see not the final result.

Indeed God did not die. Yet Jesus was not God then was he? His mother pushed him from the Well of Life.

If Jesus created Adam and then died that he might create Adam Mankind will never find the Glory of God it will be stuck trying to equate and dead God with a live promise of Glory.

My equation raises mankind to Glory. Yours leads one back to creation.

We are the 8th day.

God is done resting.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:13 PM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Sun 08/05/12 07:33 PM

Oh Dear, sometimes you make it all sound so confusing..

Obviously Jesus was a man, if he wasn't there would be no point us even trying to be like him, it wouldn't be possible for us to be God, that would be to difficult.

Jesus is Gods son, but we are also his children, so we should be the same.

Indeed.

We are all Gods Children.

Edit: Please forgive my not seeing this immediately...

You are right. It is impossible for a human to contain all of God.

We would go insane. God sees every human thought from the moment of the Inception of Adam to the now that contains your thoughts...

and every Generation of Adam that will or has ever existed.

In all the Realms.

Yet even does he know the same of the atom and the Higgs links and the very space below Planck.

We are not God.

He is us.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:17 PM



I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.

As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than.

God made you to be greater than.

Why do I call this a Temporal Loop...

If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining.

The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother.

He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man.

God simply IS.




Ah, but there is a problem in your equation. No one killed God or ever will kill God. God is eternal.

ayeeeee. But you speak the answer and see not the final result.

Indeed God did not die. Yet Jesus was not God then was he? His mother pushed him from the Well of Life.

If Jesus created Adam and then died that he might create Adam Mankind will never find the Glory of God it will be stuck trying to equate and dead God with a live promise of Glory.

My equation raises mankind to Glory. Yours leads one back to creation.

We are the 8th day.

God is done resting.



If Jesus created Adam and then died that he might create Adam Mankind will never find the Glory of God it will be stuck trying to equate and dead God with a live promise of Glory.


aye, but Jesus did not die in that sense. Jesus went to hell, this much is true. His flesh did die, but HE did not die. His soul did not die, his soul is eternal. This flesh for any of us is only temporary, we will be given a new body. Jesus was crucified for your sins, not specifically that he died for your sins. He took your punishment in hell and defeated death for us all.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:25 PM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Sun 08/05/12 07:26 PM
O' Cowboy of the Nazerene...

Look at what you have said.

"A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us. "

Then you give verses from the New Word and link them to the path that was trod by your ancestors before the Advent of Christ...

A temporal loop that perputates a slowing moving event upon the timestream that rotates all who are trapped in it to the very begining of the human race.

Yet the Human Race has seen the Anointed One has risen into the celestial realms.

Glory follows that event.

As sure God exists beyond the Celestial City in the Innermost Sanctum and yet stands beside you (and every human on the face of the Earth).

The Sun of Reality shines upon a wealth of new lands where Adam may begin to seed the Garden of Celestial Delight.

That the Garden of Eden may one day spring forth anew upon the Earth.

And the Bird of Paradise, the Eagle of God and the People of the Book find Comfort with one another in Friendship and Peace.

When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.


CowboyGH's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:34 PM

O' Cowboy of the Nazerene...

Look at what you have said.

"A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us. "

Then you give verses from the New Word and link them to the path that was trod by your ancestors before the Advent of Christ...

A temporal loop that perputates a slowing moving event upon the timestream that rotates all who are trapped in it to the very begining of the human race.

Yet the Human Race has seen the Anointed One has risen into the celestial realms.

Glory follows that event.

As sure God exists beyond the Celestial City in the Innermost Sanctum and yet stands beside you (and every human on the face of the Earth).

The Sun of Reality shines upon a wealth of new lands where Adam may begin to seed the Garden of Celestial Delight.

That the Garden of Eden may one day spring forth anew upon the Earth.

And the Bird of Paradise, the Eagle of God and the People of the Book find Comfort with one another in Friendship and Peace.

When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.





When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.


Who fears the beast? Who fears anything? What is there to fear in this world?

My friend, there is not a second to be wasted on fear.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:45 PM


O' Cowboy of the Nazerene...

Look at what you have said.

"A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us. "

Then you give verses from the New Word and link them to the path that was trod by your ancestors before the Advent of Christ...

A temporal loop that perputates a slowing moving event upon the timestream that rotates all who are trapped in it to the very begining of the human race.

Yet the Human Race has seen the Anointed One has risen into the celestial realms.

Glory follows that event.

As sure God exists beyond the Celestial City in the Innermost Sanctum and yet stands beside you (and every human on the face of the Earth).

The Sun of Reality shines upon a wealth of new lands where Adam may begin to seed the Garden of Celestial Delight.

That the Garden of Eden may one day spring forth anew upon the Earth.

And the Bird of Paradise, the Eagle of God and the People of the Book find Comfort with one another in Friendship and Peace.

When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.





When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.


Who fears the beast? Who fears anything? What is there to fear in this world?

My friend, there is not a second to be wasted on fear.

You speak of the Final Hours as though you have eaten from the Tree of Eternity.

That exists not for mankind by the Choice of Adam when he chose the Path of Knowledge over the Path Imortality. Since that time Mankind has climbed the Tree of Knowledge.

God gave Adam the Gift of Free Will to speed him upon his Journey.

Ask the Sikh who reside near Milwakie and the Tribe of the Auroras that now walk along the Mountains of Winding River if Evil still walks among us.

God can not protect you from Free Choice. That is a step you must take yourself.

Heaven for Mankind is but a step away... Up the Tree of Knowledge that the Most Great Branch find Glory.


CowboyGH's photo
Sun 08/05/12 07:53 PM



O' Cowboy of the Nazerene...

Look at what you have said.

"A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us. "

Then you give verses from the New Word and link them to the path that was trod by your ancestors before the Advent of Christ...

A temporal loop that perputates a slowing moving event upon the timestream that rotates all who are trapped in it to the very begining of the human race.

Yet the Human Race has seen the Anointed One has risen into the celestial realms.

Glory follows that event.

As sure God exists beyond the Celestial City in the Innermost Sanctum and yet stands beside you (and every human on the face of the Earth).

The Sun of Reality shines upon a wealth of new lands where Adam may begin to seed the Garden of Celestial Delight.

That the Garden of Eden may one day spring forth anew upon the Earth.

And the Bird of Paradise, the Eagle of God and the People of the Book find Comfort with one another in Friendship and Peace.

When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.





When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast.


Who fears the beast? Who fears anything? What is there to fear in this world?

My friend, there is not a second to be wasted on fear.

You speak of the Final Hours as though you have eaten from the Tree of Eternity.

That exists not for mankind by the Choice of Adam when he chose the Path of Knowledge over the Path Imortality. Since that time Mankind has climbed the Tree of Knowledge.

God gave Adam the Gift of Free Will to speed him upon his Journey.

Ask the Sikh who reside near Milwakie and the Tribe of the Auroras that now walk along the Mountains of Winding River if Evil still walks among us.

God can not protect you from Free Choice. That is a step you must take yourself.

Heaven for Mankind is but a step away... Up the Tree of Knowledge that the Most Great Branch find Glory.





You speak of the Final Hours as though you have eaten from the Tree of Eternity.


Ah, but I have. Jesus is the tree of eternity. He is the only way to achieve such an accomplishment, only through him are we even possibly granted such a gift.


Ask the Sikh who reside near Milwakie and the Tribe of the Auroras that now walk along the Mountains of Winding River if Evil still walks among us.


Ah, but no need to ask. I know evil exists and walks among us. Evil is everywhere you look. It is about overcoming that evil through Jesus. Jesus gives the ability to overcome such things and forgives when one gets weak from time to time.


God can not protect you from Free Choice. That is a step you must take yourself.


Ah, there is nothing to be protected from free choice/free will. It is the outcome of the choices brought on from those choices that may or may not need protecting from. That is where God comes into play. He forgives our mistakes which put us in that predicament of that bad things brought on by our free will, and relieves us from them if and when we repent and turn to God rather then turning to the Evil.

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Sun 08/05/12 08:09 PM
Aeeeee....

You speak as one that knows the fullness yet your path still leads to Adam and not Glory.

Jesus spoke the Word (and Jesus was Flesh and Walked the Earth).

Because he spoke the Word he was lifted up to the Heaven of Holiness by God as the Annointed One (he became Christ at the Advent of Jesus Christ became Grace at the annointment on the Mount by his choice of Forgivness in a Name of God.

Christ was lifted up but the Word remained...

the Word is Flesh for it walks the Earth by you (and thou art flesh).

Walk it then forward follower of the Annointed One... Follow the Footsteps also of the Son after Gods Glory walked the Earth.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 08/05/12 08:20 PM

Aeeeee....

You speak as one that knows the fullness yet your path still leads to Adam and not Glory.

Jesus spoke the Word (and Jesus was Flesh and Walked the Earth).

Because he spoke the Word he was lifted up to the Heaven of Holiness by God as the Annointed One (he became Christ at the Advent of Jesus Christ became Grace at the annointment on the Mount by his choice of Forgivness in a Name of God.

Christ was lifted up but the Word remained...

the Word is Flesh for it walks the Earth by you (and thou art flesh).

Walk it then forward follower of the Annointed One... Follow the Footsteps also of the Son after Gods Glory walked the Earth.



You speak as one that knows the fullness yet your path still leads to Adam and not Glory


Aye, but you do realize "Adam" is not a name right? It is not a specific person. "Adam" translates to "mankind". My path does not lead to Adam. And there is nothing to follow after Adam. Adam gave no teachings, nor did Adam leave an exampled path to follow. Adam has nothing to do with this, Adam is but a creation of our God Jesus Christ.


Jesus spoke the Word (and Jesus was Flesh and Walked the Earth).


Ah, Jesus did not speak the Word. The Word was in the beginning and the Word was God. The Word is not speaking vocal. If the Word was ment as in a vocal word, the Word could not be God. The Word is a name/title. Thus why it is capitalized in the scriptures. It is a proper noun.


the Word is Flesh for it walks the Earth by you (and thou art flesh).


Yes the Word does walk the Earth by me. Jesus is by me and everyone, everywhere, everyday. God is omnipresent.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 08/05/12 09:09 PM
O'Cowboy of the Nazerene can you not see where thou hast gone?

For indeed thou didst discuss Jesus as the Word...

and thou hast missed again the Annointment of Grace and so returned into the past...

"Ah, Jesus did not speak the Word. The Word was in the beginning and the Word was God. The Word is not speaking vocal. If the Word was ment as in a vocal word, the Word could not be God. The Word is a name/title. Thus why it is capitalized in the scriptures. It is a proper noun."

The Word (in the form of Jesus) has ascended into the Celestial Realms, yea verily into the Heaven of Holiness...

Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed.

By his rising did the Word rise also. By his Advent did the Word become Flesh in you.

Yet look O' Cowboy of the Nazerene... You have quoted yourself into the past. Is that not a temporal loop...

Christ is risen.

Mankind has not.

Be as Christ and lift them... Not from the Day of Adam but from this day to Glory. (their journey be not so long from this day).

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